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2002-01-03 20:16Adam Piontek [idm] is there anything else like it?
├─ 2002-01-03 21:26Andrei Re: [idm] is there anything else like it?
└─ 2002-01-04 20:03Colin Buttimer Re: [idm] is there anything else like it?
└─ 2002-01-16 15:07Adam Piontek Re: [idm] is there anything else like it?
└─ 2002-01-17 14:43Colin Buttimer Re: [idm] is there anything else like it?
├─ 2002-01-17 15:33Kent williams [idm] Kids & Parents ...
│ ├─ 2002-01-17 16:21vis-you Re: [idm] Kids & Parents ...
│ │ └─ 2002-01-17 23:54Dr. Gozra Von Peebles [idm] Recommendation request one - otto von schirach
│ └─ 2002-01-18 17:23Irene McC Re: [idm] Kids & Parents ...
└─ 2002-01-17 16:07Adam Piontek Re: [idm] is there anything else like it?
2002-01-03 20:51M Mercer Re: [idm] is there anything else like it?
├─ 2002-01-03 20:56j snod Re: [idm] is there anything else like it?
└─ 2002-01-03 21:49Adam Piontek Re: [idm] is there anything else like it?
2002-01-03 21:19THOUGHTBLUDGEON Re: [idm] is there anything else like it?
2002-01-03 21:51Adam Piontek Re: [idm] is there anything else like it?
└─ 2002-01-04 02:39Torben Bjerregaard Re: [idm] is there anything else like it?
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2002-01-03 20:16Adam PiontekYou know what it's like when people say they like X and are interested in suggestions of s
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You know what it's like when people say they like X and are interested in suggestions of something just like it. You suggest Y and Z because they're sorta like X, being all angular and pointy. Then, invariably, someone suggests S because it's a letter, too, and you just wanna smack 'em, cuz it's a letter, but it's nothing like X. like if i said i really liked Proem and someone then suggested Phonem, because Phonem is really only remotely like Proem when you get right down to it. no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking Confield more and more... is there anything else like it? and I don't mean just anything remotely like it, like earlier Autechre - even that isn't just like Confield. i'm not really looking for just yer average sound collage stuff like, er, i dunno, leafcutter john or fennesz or electric company or vladislav delay or monolake or whathaveyou. something visceral and immediate is what i crave, if in fact that's what i like about confield, which it may not be. maybe i don't know what i'm talking about (that's more the norm with me, anyway), and maybe i need to revisit some of these other artists... but really - confield - is there anything else like it? ===== .Adam http://www.damek.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-03 21:26Andrei> no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking > Confield more and more... is ther
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quoted 19 lines no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking> no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking > Confield more and more... is there anything else like > it? and I don't mean just anything remotely like it, > like earlier Autechre - even that isn't just like > Confield. > > i'm not really looking for just yer average sound > collage stuff like, er, i dunno, leafcutter john or > fennesz or electric company or vladislav delay or > monolake or whathaveyou. something visceral and > immediate is what i crave, if in fact that's what i > like about confield, which it may not be. > > maybe i don't know what i'm talking about (that's more > the norm with me, anyway), and maybe i need to revisit > some of these other artists... > > but really - confield - is there anything else like > it?
The first suggestion I'd make is Phthalocyanine. And also MFVS which is Phthalocyanine + Crank. You might also want to check out Crank's stuff, though I've only heard "Wanton Phenomena". I've also heard some Rook Vallade stuff that's got that improvisatory feel. Those acts generally have a rawer, less polished sound than Autechre, but I think there's a similar open ended feel to their work which is in line with "Confield".. Also check out Matmos, if you haven't already. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-04 20:03Colin ButtimerI was bemused to see that The Wire's 50 Records of the Year list failed to mention Confiel
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I was bemused to see that The Wire's 50 Records of the Year list failed to mention Confield - in fact it wasn't mentioned anywhere in anyone's thoughts (including the Electronica records of the year list). I know it hasn't found favour with a lot of people, but still. Adam, if you're looking for visceral I'd recommend anything between 70 and 75 by Miles Davis, particularly Dark Magus or On The Corner, otherwise what about Jungle circa 93/94. Some of the Oval stuff to my ears is a little reminiscent of Confield.
quoted 2 lines but really - confield - is there anything else like> but really - confield - is there anything else like > it?
I guess this is why I love Confield... and the fact it seems to refuse to be consumed/assimilated in the way that their previous releases are susceptible to being. I wonder what Sean and Rob are up to now... what are they cooking up? All the best, Colin. np Jon Hassell, Rotterdam bootleg
quoted 52 lines From: Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org>> From: Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> > Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:16:25 -0800 (PST) > To: idm@hyperreal.org, idm-m@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [idm] is there anything else like it? > > You know what it's like when people say they like X > and are interested in suggestions of something just > like it. You suggest Y and Z because they're sorta > like X, being all angular and pointy. Then, > invariably, someone suggests S because it's a letter, > too, and you just wanna smack 'em, cuz it's a letter, > but it's nothing like X. > > like if i said i really liked Proem and someone then > suggested Phonem, because Phonem is really only > remotely like Proem when you get right down to it. > > no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking > Confield more and more... is there anything else like > it? and I don't mean just anything remotely like it, > like earlier Autechre - even that isn't just like > Confield. > > i'm not really looking for just yer average sound > collage stuff like, er, i dunno, leafcutter john or > fennesz or electric company or vladislav delay or > monolake or whathaveyou. something visceral and > immediate is what i crave, if in fact that's what i > like about confield, which it may not be. > > maybe i don't know what i'm talking about (that's more > the norm with me, anyway), and maybe i need to revisit > some of these other artists... > > but really - confield - is there anything else like > it? > > > ===== > ..Adam > http://www.damek.org/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-01-16 15:07Adam Piontek--- Colin Buttimer <c.buttimer@mdx.ac.uk> wrote: > I was bemused to see that The Wire's 50
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quoted 7 lines I was bemused to see that The Wire's 50 Records of> I was bemused to see that The Wire's 50 Records of > the Year list failed to > mention Confield - in fact it wasn't mentioned > anywhere in anyone's thoughts > (including the Electronica records of the year > list). I know it hasn't found > favour with a lot of people, but still.
I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine a few issues ago, among their music picks near the back of the mag. They said something along the lines of it being a great album, and that your kids wouldn't like it. I thought that was funny... ===== .Adam http://www.damek.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-17 14:43Colin Buttimer> I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine a > few issues ago, among their music
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quoted 5 lines I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine a> I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine a > few issues ago, among their music picks near the back > of the mag. They said something along the lines of it > being a great album, and that your kids wouldn't like > it. I thought that was funny...
Wired is right - when I put on 70sMiles/Autechre/etc my kids do exactly that, covering their ears and telling me to turn it off. Stuff they like is Sly and the Family Stone, James Brown and 70s disco (Amy's four Gabriel two and a half). All the best, Colin. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-17 15:33Kent williamsOn Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Colin Buttimer wrote: > > I just remembered, Confield was in Wired ma
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Colin Buttimer wrote:
quoted 10 lines I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine a> > I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine a > > few issues ago, among their music picks near the back > > of the mag. They said something along the lines of it > > being a great album, and that your kids wouldn't like > > it. I thought that was funny... > Wired is right - when I put on 70sMiles/Autechre/etc my kids do exactly > that, covering their ears and telling me to turn it off. Stuff they like is > Sly and the Family Stone, James Brown and 70s disco (Amy's four Gabriel two > and a half). >
Funk and Disco are all about connecting to people's 'feel good' center in their brains. Stuff like Autechre is all about redefining and extending the concept of musical beauty; there's an intellectual component to what they do that is going to be lost on people of an age where they can't totally understand "Blues Clues." I love Autechre, and I love Funk and Disco. They have different purposes, both valid. I especially love stuff like Marumari that takes some of the warmth and human accesibility of the latter and combines it with the ambition of the former. When my kids were small my favorite bands were Husker Du, Sonic Youth, and Dinosaur Jr. Once, when Lucas was two, we were driving somewhere with Zen Arcade playing, and Lucas told me "Turn Off that Loud Monstery Music!" We were in agreement, however, on Kraftwerk and They Might Be Giants. On one trip to Chicago, all they'd listen to was "Computer World" and Weird Al's "Off the Deep End." Now that Lucas is 13 and Sean is 17, the shared tastes are more about Jimi Hendrix, Marvin Gaye, and pre-1970 Bob Dylan. Sean is all about Hip Hop as well, so we intersect on that, notably with a love for Atmosphere, and the Anticon crew. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-17 16:21vis-youMy Daughter is just over a year old (only walking for about a month) but absolutely LOVES
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My Daughter is just over a year old (only walking for about a month) but absolutely LOVES music. I'll often play Arovane, BoC, Telefon TT, and the like. When I do, she'll scurry over to the stereo on her two shaky legs, stand in front of it pointing up to it... while swaying back and forth or bobbing her head to the music. It's a beautiful thing. At least I know she's already getting a great, quality start on her education. ;) (makes a dad proud!) -matT nashville.tn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-17 23:54Dr. Gozra Von PeeblesWho is similar to Otto von Schirach? I am primarily interested in sound design here - the
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Who is similar to Otto von Schirach? I am primarily interested in sound design here - the crispness of 8000bc. Complexity. Richard Devine is obviously recalled: similar in sound production, but far more technical and far less...."wet". Matmos' Chance to Cut... also comes to mind in terms of sampling organic sounds. But otto... I've mentioned before that I am very much possessed by him and unfortunately joined this list a bit after escalto frio came out, so perhaps I missed a bit of relative discussion. Thanks in advance. gvp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-18 17:23Irene McCHere on the south side of the globe it's summer holidays, and I've been bush-bashing throu
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Here on the south side of the globe it's summer holidays, and I've been bush-bashing through our glorious country with my two offspring in the backseat. Laura is almost 13 and Christy (he's a boy) is coming on for 10. For the journey, I made a few compilations, and this is what proved most popular: Wamdue's King of my Castle (can we have that again, Mummy?) Dido - Hunter (that's for Laura) Offspring - Pretty Fly (my son's choice, uh...) Jamiroquai (anything and everything) Vintage Depeche Mode (Master & Servant era stuff, GREAT car music!) Adult (in small doses) Daft Punk Bob Marley Manu Chao These did NOT go down, and had to be skipped: Circulation - the colours stuff (too long) Aphex's Windowlicker Luomo Anything acid-jazzy (too noodly, gets lost in the bump 'n grind, maybe?) On 17 Jan 2002, at 9:33, Kent williams wrote:
quoted 2 lines Funk and Disco are all about connecting to people's 'feel good' center in> Funk and Disco are all about connecting to people's 'feel good' center in > their brains.
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2002-01-17 16:07Adam PiontekActually, I was chacking my issues of Wired last night to make sure I'd read them before p
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Actually, I was chacking my issues of Wired last night to make sure I'd read them before putting them in the recycling bin, I noticed that the Autechre mention was in the December 2001 issue - they had guest reviewers for that issue, and the guy who picked Confield was from MTVi of all places. And actuall, I was wrong about what he said. He said it was a great album, alright - gave it high praise. But what he said about youngsters was that they'd think you were hip if you had it. Something along those lines. Now how could I get that wrong? He was like, "get it for the benefit of your grandkids" or something. But since I don't have the issue in front of me here at work, I'm probably skewing it wrong again. So forget everything I said and just stew on the whole MTVi thing. Or don't... --- Colin Buttimer <c.buttimer@mdx.ac.uk> wrote:
quoted 23 lines I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine> > I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine > a > > few issues ago, among their music picks near the > back > > of the mag. They said something along the lines > of it > > being a great album, and that your kids wouldn't > like > > it. I thought that was funny... > Wired is right - when I put on 70sMiles/Autechre/etc > my kids do exactly > that, covering their ears and telling me to turn it > off. Stuff they like is > Sly and the Family Stone, James Brown and 70s disco > (Amy's four Gabriel two > and a half). > > All the best, > > Colin. > > >
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2002-01-03 20:51M Mercer>You know what it's like when people say they like X >and are interested in suggestions of
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quoted 11 lines You know what it's like when people say they like X>You know what it's like when people say they like X >and are interested in suggestions of something just >like it. You suggest Y and Z because they're sorta >like X, being all angular and pointy. Then, >invariably, someone suggests S because it's a letter, >too, and you just wanna smack 'em, cuz it's a letter, >but it's nothing like X. > >like if i said i really liked Proem and someone then >suggested Phonem, because Phonem is really only >remotely like Proem when you get right down to it.
i could see this correlation being made, if only because the face value is fairly similar, in terms of crunchy beats, flowing melodies, etc.... although obviously proem is much darker and a little more aggressive.
quoted 12 lines no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking>no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking >Confield more and more... is there anything else like >it? and I don't mean just anything remotely like it, >like earlier Autechre - even that isn't just like >Confield. > >i'm not really looking for just yer average sound >collage stuff like, er, i dunno, leafcutter john or >fennesz or electric company or vladislav delay or >monolake or whathaveyou. something visceral and >immediate is what i crave, if in fact that's what i >like about confield, which it may not be.
i wouldn't necessarily lump fennesz or vladislav delay into "average sound collage stuff"... "endless summer" from fennesz was a pretty impressive album in my opinion. but i digress.
quoted 2 lines but really - confield - is there anything else like>but really - confield - is there anything else like >it?
not especially. you might look into the autechre material immediately preceding it if you're not already familiar with it, such as the 2nd peel session EP and ep7, although i find ep7 to be much more conventional in spots. i've always thought that what made autechre special is their ability to move forward without regarding trends or cliches, and they seem to have really been able to stay more than a few steps ahead of the pack for most of their career thus far. then again, there's always that terrifying idea that, god forbid, this is a highly original album with no immediately similar comparisons to be made. ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-03 20:56j snodOn Thu, 3 Jan 2002, M Mercer wrote: > i've always thought that what made autechre special
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quoted 4 lines i've always thought that what made autechre special is their ability to move> i've always thought that what made autechre special is their ability to move > forward without regarding trends or cliches, and they seem to have really > been able to stay more than a few steps ahead of the pack for most of their > career thus far.
history has shown that the act of not being trendy/cliche often becomes trendy/cliche itself. funny how that works. -j --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-03 21:49Adam Piontek--- M Mercer <vletrmx@hotmail.com> wrote: > i could see this correlation being made, if on
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quoted 6 lines i could see this correlation being made, if only> i could see this correlation being made, if only > because the face value is > fairly similar, in terms of crunchy beats, flowing > melodies, etc.... > although obviously proem is much darker and a little > more aggressive.
You're right, of course. My initial point was just that there can be suggestions of music that is generally similar in style, like, it reads the same when described with words - and then there can be suggestions of music that is tightly similar in style and/or feel, in that it produces the same responses in the listener. I usually think the latter are more useful than the former, but not always, of course, and it's all good. Anyway, with the best stuff, there's nothing like it except other works by the same artist, of course!
quoted 5 lines i wouldn't necessarily lump fennesz or vladislav> i wouldn't necessarily lump fennesz or vladislav > delay into "average sound > collage stuff"... "endless summer" from fennesz was > a pretty impressive > album in my opinion. but i digress.
Yes, everyone keeps saying so. I haven't listened to any of those artists enough to really judge them, though I have been meaning to revisit them and try to see if I can hear in them what everyone else seems to hear. I was unsuccessfully trying to illustrate the difference in styles between these artists and Autechre's Confield, just because I felt that if I just wrote in and asked for "more stuff like Confield" I would get a bunch of suggestions in the vein of Delay and Fennesz, etc, when I'm already rudimentally familiar with those artists and they're not at all what I'm looking for right now. Anyway, that's my problem, not yours...
quoted 3 lines not especially. you might look into the autechre> not especially. you might look into the autechre > material immediately > preceding it if you're not already familiar with it,
oh, I am! :P
quoted 3 lines i've always thought that what made autechre special> i've always thought that what made autechre special > is their ability to move > forward without regarding trends or cliches, and
Or at least to just be themselves, which is even better.
quoted 3 lines highly original album with no immediately similar> highly original album with no immediately similar > comparisons to be made. > ;-)
I would agree with that. Thanks for the reply, and while I'll add the Phthal-similar suggestions made by the other dude to my "try out someday" list, what I'll probably do for now is just go straight back to Confield and get more out of this album rather than spreading my interest thinner across more, less interesting (to me) albums. Quality over quantity, that old biddy... sorry to bother everyone so much today - keep enjoying the tunes, or lack thereof if that's your thing :) ===== .Adam http://www.damek.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-03 21:19THOUGHTBLUDGEONsince we're on the subject... anyone want to point me in the direction of Xingu Hill / Bee
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since we're on the subject... anyone want to point me in the direction of Xingu Hill / Beefcake familiars? I dig the flow through the diversity, from buzzy digital snares to mounting chellos, and oddities that throw you while listen... even as broad as the likes of wagon christ (but without the silly)... --- http://www.mp3.com/edgey http://www.thoughtbludgeon.com "...when you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail..." EDGEY | ROG | DSA | DI | DFC | MAIM | MARTYR THOUGHTBLUDGEON RECORDINGS - SOUND EXTREMES :::...piece and sliced beats...::: --- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Piontek" <adam@damek.org> To: <idm@hyperreal.org>; <idm-m@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: [idm] is there anything else like it?
quoted 48 lines You know what it's like when people say they like X> You know what it's like when people say they like X > and are interested in suggestions of something just > like it. You suggest Y and Z because they're sorta > like X, being all angular and pointy. Then, > invariably, someone suggests S because it's a letter, > too, and you just wanna smack 'em, cuz it's a letter, > but it's nothing like X. > > like if i said i really liked Proem and someone then > suggested Phonem, because Phonem is really only > remotely like Proem when you get right down to it. > > no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking > Confield more and more... is there anything else like > it? and I don't mean just anything remotely like it, > like earlier Autechre - even that isn't just like > Confield. > > i'm not really looking for just yer average sound > collage stuff like, er, i dunno, leafcutter john or > fennesz or electric company or vladislav delay or > monolake or whathaveyou. something visceral and > immediate is what i crave, if in fact that's what i > like about confield, which it may not be. > > maybe i don't know what i'm talking about (that's more > the norm with me, anyway), and maybe i need to revisit > some of these other artists... > > but really - confield - is there anything else like > it? > > > ===== > .Adam > http://www.damek.org/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-01-03 21:51Adam Piontek--- Andrei <andrei@world.std.com> wrote: > The first suggestion I'd make is Phthalocyanine
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--- Andrei <andrei@world.std.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line The first suggestion I'd make is Phthalocyanine.> The first suggestion I'd make is Phthalocyanine.
Funny you should say that, since I do think that after hearing Confield a lot, I've begun to enjoy Phthalocyanine's release on Planet Mu. Thought it was horrible before. Funny how things work...
quoted 1 line Also check out Matmos, if you haven't already.> Also check out Matmos, if you haven't already.
Is that a joke? I'll take it as one. And completely unrelated, I was very happy that Matmos and Mouse On Mars ended up hardly being mentioned at all in people's year-end lists, despite having heavily hyped albums this year :P And of course, being the Proem whore that I am, I was sad to see him so overlooked in those same lists. But whatever :P ===== .Adam http://www.damek.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-04 02:39Torben BjerregaardAt 03-01-2002 13:51 -0800, Adam Piontek wrote: >And of course, being the Proem whore that
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At 03-01-2002 13:51 -0800, Adam Piontek wrote:
quoted 3 lines And of course, being the Proem whore that I am, I was>And of course, being the Proem whore that I am, I was >sad to see him so overlooked in those same lists. But >whatever :P
Then you are of course aware of his MiniDisc release on n5MD: Among Others If not, check it out... Great stuff ! http://www.n5md.com /torben --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-05 01:37c. reideron 1/4/02 8:50 AM, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org at idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org wrote: >
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on 1/4/02 8:50 AM, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org at idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org wrote:
quoted 19 lines no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking>> no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking >> Confield more and more... is there anything else like >> it? and I don't mean just anything remotely like it, >> like earlier Autechre - even that isn't just like >> Confield. >> >> i'm not really looking for just yer average sound >> collage stuff like, er, i dunno, leafcutter john or >> fennesz or electric company or vladislav delay or >> monolake or whathaveyou. something visceral and >> immediate is what i crave, if in fact that's what i >> like about confield, which it may not be. >> >> maybe i don't know what i'm talking about (that's more >> the norm with me, anyway), and maybe i need to revisit >> some of these other artists... >> >> but really - confield - is there anything else like >> it?
i like 'Confield' a lot too, in a certain sense, i feel they've left the 'IDM' genre behind (whatever that genre is) and entered into a more avant-garde realm, so you may find some satisfaction with the likes of abstract musician PBK, or electronic tone-poet Yasunao Tone, or 60's tape-splicing hero Tod Dockstader. i could go on... these types of artists are worth checking out by anyone into the 'out there' aspects of this type of music we so enjoy. c. .. .. . .. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-07 03:02leeon 7/1/02 2:34 am, c. reider at vuzh@peakpeak.com wrote: > on 1/6/02 7:23 PM, lee at leeg@
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quoted 16 lines on 1/6/02 7:23 PM, lee at leeg@soundtree.fsnet.co.uk wrote:> on 1/6/02 7:23 PM, lee at leeg@soundtree.fsnet.co.uk wrote: > >> Autechre should be working within the film industry as sound designers... >> after all that's their fundamental style nowdays isn't it? >> >> L. > > disagreed again. > > their work on 'Confield' interested me structurally more than timbrally. > > c. > > . .. . . > >
I like to keep an open mind... People make films for sound as do artists. I do not for one second think that what Autechre (and others) produce within the complexity of the Arrangement or Production would be problematic within film. Yes I agree with the 'Confield' album being more structural than tumbrel, why would that affect using their technique within in a film? I am not saying that it would be wise to use their methods consistently throughout. If you know how to apply theirs or others with ideas into film then the results can be very interesting. L. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org