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man, phoenecian warriors my ass! those guys just suck. i just picked up "brownout", and just like autechre's "cornhole" this stuff is straight potty. right down to the crappy artwork. yeh, let's have another flash-inspired simplistic, meaningless, omniscient sense of self-worth indicating graphic design piece for a shitloaded digipack. i need another one. to put on my collectible/fragile part of the cd shelf. which is now buckling under the weight of this incredibly dense field of dsp krap that goes just absolutely nowhere. ahem, melodies, please? sounds like a bale of marijuana being dropped over the everglades, hunh? all i hear is how those guys are so cool, and nice, and how they hang out with autechre... and don't even let me get started on those guys. the day they left their fresh-ass-break-beat-with-meaning style on incunabula was a sad day indeed. "brownout" should have been called that because that's what it sounds like happened in their studio when they made it. it's about as boring as it gets. c'mon, lets hear some more of that 'rhythmbox' miami boyz! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

on 10/30/01 11:40 PM, Grady Stiles at gradystiles@mac.com scrawled:

quoted 10 lines sounds like a bale of marijuana being dropped over the everglades,

> > sounds like a bale of marijuana being dropped over the everglades, > hunh? all i hear is how those guys are so cool, and nice, and how > they hang out with autechre... and don't even let me get started on > those guys. the day they left their > fresh-ass-break-beat-with-meaning style on incunabula was a sad day > indeed. "brownout" should have been called that because that's what > it sounds like happened in their studio when they made it. it's about > as boring as it gets. >

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"the day they left their

quoted 3 lines fresh-ass-break-beat-with-meaning style on

> fresh-ass-break-beat-with-meaning style on > incunabula was a sad day > indeed."

go get a delorian and hit up early 90's and stay there you loser. according to you, lets all just do the same shit over again. heard of abstraction? maybe youre not intelligent enough to pick up on new melodic/ rhythmic endeavors. d wow man, youre really innovative. --- Grady Stiles <gradystiles@mac.com> wrote:

quoted 38 lines man, phoenecian warriors my ass!

> man, phoenecian warriors my ass! > > those guys just suck. i just picked up "brownout", > and just like > autechre's "cornhole" this stuff is straight potty. > right down to > the crappy artwork. yeh, let's have another > flash-inspired > simplistic, meaningless, omniscient sense of > self-worth indicating > graphic design piece for a shitloaded digipack. i > need another one. > to put on my collectible/fragile part of the cd > shelf. which is now > buckling under the weight of this incredibly dense > field of dsp krap > that goes just absolutely nowhere. ahem, melodies, > please? > > sounds like a bale of marijuana being dropped over > the everglades, > hunh? all i hear is how those guys are so cool, and > nice, and how > they hang out with autechre... and don't even let me > get started on > those guys. the day they left their > fresh-ass-break-beat-with-meaning style on > incunabula was a sad day > indeed. "brownout" should have been called that > because that's what > it sounds like happened in their studio when they > made it. it's about > as boring as it gets. > > c'mon, lets hear some more of that 'rhythmbox' miami > boyz! > >

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"i don't know, i thought it was quite nice... maybe you are just hurt because your exectations weren't met?" irony no? ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grady Stiles" <gradystiles@mac.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:40 PM Subject: [idm] phoenecia sux!!!

quoted 26 lines man, phoenecian warriors my ass!

> man, phoenecian warriors my ass! > > those guys just suck. i just picked up "brownout", and just like > autechre's "cornhole" this stuff is straight potty. right down to > the crappy artwork. yeh, let's have another flash-inspired > simplistic, meaningless, omniscient sense of self-worth indicating > graphic design piece for a shitloaded digipack. i need another one. > to put on my collectible/fragile part of the cd shelf. which is now > buckling under the weight of this incredibly dense field of dsp krap > that goes just absolutely nowhere. ahem, melodies, please? > > sounds like a bale of marijuana being dropped over the everglades, > hunh? all i hear is how those guys are so cool, and nice, and how > they hang out with autechre... and don't even let me get started on > those guys. the day they left their > fresh-ass-break-beat-with-meaning style on incunabula was a sad day > indeed. "brownout" should have been called that because that's what > it sounds like happened in their studio when they made it. it's about > as boring as it gets. > > c'mon, lets hear some more of that 'rhythmbox' miami boyz! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Wow, thanks Jeremy! We should distribute this template to new and jaded posters alike :D derek On 31 Oct 2001, jeremy axon doth wrote:

quoted 7 lines Use this handy template:

> Use this handy template: > > > > > man, [previously used phrase describing artist A] my ass! > > > > > > this [expletive] sucks. i just heard "[release X]", and just like > > > [artist B]'s "[latest work]" this stuff is straight potty. right

down to

quoted 9 lines the crappy artwork. yeh, let's have another flash-inspired

> > > the crappy artwork. yeh, let's have another flash-inspired > > > simplistic, meaningless, omniscient sense of self-worth indicating > > > graphic design piece for a shitloaded digipack. i need another one. > > > to put on my collectible/fragile part of the cd shelf. which is now > > > buckling under the weight of this incredibly dense field of dsp krap > > > that goes just absolutely nowhere. ahem, [melodies/beats/emotion], > please? > > > > > > sounds like a [quantity of substance artist known to use] being [verb

+

quoted 5 lines a reference to a geographically created "scene"],

> > a reference to a geographically created "scene"], > > > hunh? all i hear is how those guys are so cool, and nice, and how > > > they [verb + artist C]... and don't even let me get started on > > > [artist C]. the day they left their > > > [style from which said artist has now progressed] style on [1st

album]

quoted 2 lines was a sad day

> > was a sad day > > > indeed. "[release X]" should have been called that because [insert

pun

quoted 7 lines or phrase incorporating release X's title and how it relates to the

> > or phrase incorporating release X's title and how it relates to the > > content sucking]. it's about > > > as boring as it gets. > > > > > > c'mon, lets hear some more of that '[old shit that is a copy of > > something older]' [hip term for artist A to show that critic still > > respects them]!

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quoted 1 line jaded

>>jaded

Did someone mention my middle name...:D I hate mentioning artists, so I am just quick to say most IDM eats a fat BLEEP!(C Irene, I am getting better)....but that's not accurate because of a recent, the Pub release is really good(ambient wise) and the Defocus release 'Did U C'.......and that Other People Place is gettin rocked ALL the time...but that's Detroit Techno..... and Somrux, just as you cant see how others keep with listening to older music so I cant see how many of you listen to some of this new stuff...and for heaven sakes, even a deaf-mute knows its a matter of ones own personal likes and tastes(dont take it negatively or personally Bishop)....... Ole-H-fuck'n-k, hittn ya ass up n nothin and 1.......(Ebonics...:D) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On 31 Oct 2001, Hackett, Kelley M. doth wrote:

quoted 6 lines jaded

> >>jaded > > Did someone mention my middle name...:D > > I hate mentioning artists, so I am just quick to say most IDM eats a fat > BLEEP!(C Irene, I am getting better)....but that's not accurate because

of a

quoted 1 line recent, the Pub release is really good(ambient wise) and the Defocus

> recent, the Pub release is really good(ambient wise) and the Defocus

release

quoted 5 lines 'Did U C'.......and that Other People Place is gettin rocked ALL the

> 'Did U C'.......and that Other People Place is gettin rocked ALL the > time...but that's Detroit Techno..... > > and Somrux, just as you cant see how others keep with listening to older > music so I cant see how many of you listen to some of this new

stuff...and

quoted 1 line for heaven sakes, even a deaf-mute knows its a matter of ones own

> for heaven sakes, even a deaf-mute knows its a matter of ones own

personal

quoted 1 line likes and tastes(dont take it negatively or personally Bishop).......

> likes and tastes(dont take it negatively or personally Bishop).......

Yeah kelley, but you're not saying that the new stuff should be like the old stuff. You know what you like; you know what you're looking for. You're not buying new releases under the assumption that it's going to sound like older stuff. You're wary of new releases because you *know* they probably don't sound like what you're looking for. You don't buy the newest Autechre thinking it'll sound like old Stasis and then get all pissed when it doesn't, right? You already know that it's something you probably don't like, and just don't buy it. It's one thing to say "this is the type of music I like, and this album doesn't sound like that, so I don't like it," and a completely different thing to say "i like this type of music, and this artist doesn't make it [anymore], therefore this artist's music is complete shit and no one else should buy it because my opinion qualifies for everyone!" derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Hackett, Kelley M. wrote: and Somrux, just as you cant see how others keep with listening to older music so I cant see how many of you listen to some of this new stuff...and for heaven sakes, even a deaf-mute knows its a matter of ones own personal likes and tastes(dont take it negatively or personally Bishop)....... ---- Huh? When did I say that I "don't see how or why others keep with listening to older music"? I never said that at all - In fact, I said the opposite. I stated that I like old Aphex, BoC, etc. and I also like alot of new music too. That's a pretty strong indication that I listen to electronic music from all time periods. From 1993 Aphex to 2001 Solvent, man. I'm curious as to how you came to the conclusion that you just mentioned... And from reading alot of the posts, you'd think that some people don't get the whole "this is my opinion" thing. It's a shame that I feel like I have to mention it ever so often that "opinions differ" because alot of ppl get all-fired up if somebody likes something that someone else doesn't. This is all just plain silly now..... -somrux. ---- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Oh No----Ohh no brother Egg! U're right, I am not saying that. And you hit it dead on the head. I know that many of these artists are desperately trying to create something "new" and cant even master the old(whatever that might be, the 4/4 style I am speaking of here). I was going to post 2 the list my thoughts on this matter....AGAIN. Its like Jazz for you jazz lovers, you find those youngsters nowadays trying to do something new, say Kenny G(I hate to mention artists again but there are so, so many SISTAS who use him as an example of Jazz that I just wanna beat my head into the concrete--to stop the excruciating pain of that awful name and sound he produces). Fact is, and this is what a Hank Mobley or a Dexter Gordon would say, how can 1 begin to create something new when 1 hasn't mastered the old......besides the old is the basis from where the new must emerge! Egg my friend if I bought Ae thinking it was to sound like Stasis but didn't.....D-day is all I can say! -----Original Message----- From: EggyToast [mailto:youn0394@umn.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:30 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] you too can criticize IDM artists! On 31 Oct 2001, Hackett, Kelley M. doth wrote:

quoted 6 lines jaded

> >>jaded > > Did someone mention my middle name...:D > > I hate mentioning artists, so I am just quick to say most IDM eats a fat > BLEEP!(C Irene, I am getting better)....but that's not accurate because

of a

quoted 1 line recent, the Pub release is really good(ambient wise) and the Defocus

> recent, the Pub release is really good(ambient wise) and the Defocus

release

quoted 5 lines 'Did U C'.......and that Other People Place is gettin rocked ALL the

> 'Did U C'.......and that Other People Place is gettin rocked ALL the > time...but that's Detroit Techno..... > > and Somrux, just as you cant see how others keep with listening to older > music so I cant see how many of you listen to some of this new

stuff...and

quoted 1 line for heaven sakes, even a deaf-mute knows its a matter of ones own

> for heaven sakes, even a deaf-mute knows its a matter of ones own

personal

quoted 1 line likes and tastes(dont take it negatively or personally Bishop).......

> likes and tastes(dont take it negatively or personally Bishop).......

Yeah kelley, but you're not saying that the new stuff should be like the old stuff. You know what you like; you know what you're looking for. You're not buying new releases under the assumption that it's going to sound like older stuff. You're wary of new releases because you *know* they probably don't sound like what you're looking for. You don't buy the newest Autechre thinking it'll sound like old Stasis and then get all pissed when it doesn't, right? You already know that it's something you probably don't like, and just don't buy it. It's one thing to say "this is the type of music I like, and this album doesn't sound like that, so I don't like it," and a completely different thing to say "i like this type of music, and this artist doesn't make it [anymore], therefore this artist's music is complete shit and no one else should buy it because my opinion qualifies for everyone!" derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

oh fucken hell...i just fell off of my chair. that's just too much. :mz // anonbox · http://posthoc.org/ | http://ecesis.org/ 'if there were two of you, which one would win?'

quoted 7 lines Use this handy template:

> Use this handy template: > > > > > man, [previously used phrase describing artist A] my ass! > > > > > > this [expletive] sucks. i just heard "[release X]", and just like > > > [artist B]'s "[latest work]" this stuff is straight potty. right down

to

quoted 6 lines the crappy artwork. yeh, let's have another flash-inspired

> > > the crappy artwork. yeh, let's have another flash-inspired > > > simplistic, meaningless, omniscient sense of self-worth indicating > > > graphic design piece for a shitloaded digipack. i need another one. > > > to put on my collectible/fragile part of the cd shelf. which is now > > > buckling under the weight of this incredibly dense field of dsp krap > > > that goes just absolutely nowhere. ahem, [melodies/beats/emotion],

please?

quoted 2 lines sounds like a [quantity of substance artist known to use] being [verb

> > > > > > sounds like a [quantity of substance artist known to use] being [verb

+

quoted 7 lines a reference to a geographically created "scene"],

> > a reference to a geographically created "scene"], > > > hunh? all i hear is how those guys are so cool, and nice, and how > > > they [verb + artist C]... and don't even let me get started on > > > [artist C]. the day they left their > > > [style from which said artist has now progressed] style on [1st album] > > was a sad day > > > indeed. "[release X]" should have been called that because [insert

pun

quoted 11 lines or phrase incorporating release X's title and how it relates to the

> > or phrase incorporating release X's title and how it relates to the > > content sucking]. it's about > > > as boring as it gets. > > > > > > c'mon, lets hear some more of that '[old shit that is a copy of > > something older]' [hip term for artist A to show that critic still > > respects them]! > > > > Now its your turn to fill in the blanks and let me know that you don't

like

quoted 12 lines something. Because everyone's fucking dying to know what you don't like...

> something. Because everyone's fucking dying to know what you don't like... > > > - > jA! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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