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2005-11-02 04:37Matt Tasker [idm] Hangable Auto Bulb
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2005-11-03 01:00Karajabola Re: [idm] Hangable Auto Bulb
└─ 2005-11-07 17:14[idm] homie
├─ 2005-11-07 18:30Paul Sanders Re: [idm] homie
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2005-11-07 18:15David @ Audiobulb Re: [idm] homie
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2005-11-07 22:34David Hodgson Re: [idm] homie
└─ 2005-11-07 23:06nat hawks Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?!
├─ 2005-11-07 23:55theREALmxyzptlk Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?!
├─ 2005-11-07 23:57Tim Moore Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?!
│ └─ 2005-11-08 03:57Cory O'Brien Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?!
│ ├─ 2005-11-08 04:06Alan Lucas Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?!
│ └─ 2005-11-08 04:07nat hawks Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?!
│ └─ 2005-11-08 06:55Cory O'Brien [idm] FanCD's
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├─ 2005-11-08 00:20Jong-Ilist Massive Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?!
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2005-11-02 04:37Matt TaskerLooks like Warp screwed up on the CD release... the last 2 tracks are labeled incorrectly.
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Looks like Warp screwed up on the CD release... the last 2 tracks are labeled incorrectly. Come on, guys! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-02 04:44Jong-Ilist Massiveit's an afx conspiracy! On 11/1/05, Matt Tasker <mtasker@optonline.net> wrote: > Looks lik
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it's an afx conspiracy! On 11/1/05, Matt Tasker <mtasker@optonline.net> wrote:
quoted 8 lines Looks like Warp screwed up on the CD release... the last 2 tracks are> Looks like Warp screwed up on the CD release... the last 2 tracks are > labeled incorrectly. Come on, guys! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2005-11-02 14:59rblast two? 07 Every Day 08 Arched Maid well the last one but track seven seems to be the sa
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last two? 07 Every Day 08 Arched Maid well the last one but track seven seems to be the same. rb Looks like Warp screwed up on the CD release... the last 2 tracks are labeled incorrectly. Come on, guys! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-02 20:50Matt Taskerrb wrote: > > last two? > > 07 Every Day > 08 Arched Maid > > well the last one but track
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rb wrote:
quoted 7 lines last two?> > last two? > > 07 Every Day > 08 Arched Maid > > well the last one but track seven seems to be the same.
On the disc itself, track 7 is actually Arched Maid Via RDJ (the 5+ minute track with metallic synth solo) and track 8 is Every Day (3+ minute track with vocal samples). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-02 20:53Andrew WalkingshawOn Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 03:50:35PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote: > On the disc itself, track 7
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On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 03:50:35PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote:
quoted 3 lines On the disc itself, track 7 is actually Arched Maid Via RDJ (the 5+> On the disc itself, track 7 is actually Arched Maid Via RDJ (the 5+ > minute track with metallic synth solo) and track 8 is Every Day (3+ > minute track with vocal samples).
Not on mine - they're the other (right) way round... -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | http://covertmusic.com/ | work: adw27@cam.ac.uk "nineteen sixty-nine in the sunshine" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-02 21:22Matt TaskerAndrew Walkingshaw wrote: > On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 03:50:35PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote: >
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Andrew Walkingshaw wrote:
quoted 8 lines On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 03:50:35PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote:> On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 03:50:35PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote: > >>On the disc itself, track 7 is actually Arched Maid Via RDJ (the 5+ >>minute track with metallic synth solo) and track 8 is Every Day (3+ >>minute track with vocal samples). > > > Not on mine - they're the other (right) way round...
The mystery deepens... did they print the correct track times on the case? My copy looks like: ... 7 Every Day (5:21) 8 Arched Maid Via RDJ (3:48) Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-03 00:05Andrew WalkingshawOn Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 04:22:51PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote: [HAB1+2 EP mispressings] > >
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On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 04:22:51PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote: [HAB1+2 EP mispressings]
quoted 9 lines Not on mine - they're the other (right) way round...> > > >Not on mine - they're the other (right) way round... > > The mystery deepens... > did they print the correct track times on the case? My copy looks like: > > ... > 7 Every Day (5:21) > 8 Arched Maid Via RDJ (3:48)
Mine has: 7. Every Day (3:48) 8. Arched Maid Via RDJ (5:21) bought in Fopp, Cambridge, on Monday. Weeeird. Could be the non-UK pressings are screwed up. Andrew -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | http://covertmusic.com/ | work: adw27@cam.ac.uk "i'm thinking six" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-03 01:00KarajabolaAgreed. track listings are in the correct order, but the track times for #7 and 8 are swap
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Agreed. track listings are in the correct order, but the track times for #7 and 8 are swapped. (cd case shows track 8 is longer than 7) I was hoping for some Warp freebee's too (stickers/keychains/etc.) nothing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Tasker" <mtasker@optonline.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Hangable Auto Bulb
quoted 24 lines Andrew Walkingshaw wrote:> Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 03:50:35PM -0500, Matt Tasker wrote: >> >>>On the disc itself, track 7 is actually Arched Maid Via RDJ (the 5+ >>>minute track with metallic synth solo) and track 8 is Every Day (3+ >>>minute track with vocal samples). >> >> >> Not on mine - they're the other (right) way round... > > The mystery deepens... > did they print the correct track times on the case? My copy looks like: > > ... > 7 Every Day (5:21) > 8 Arched Maid Via RDJ (3:48) > > > Matt > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2005-11-07 17:14"<< z a p a n >>" <zapan@fourthcity.net>does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd that will be sure to p
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does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd that will be sure to play on most everyone's cd player? thanks, -z -- fourthcity 2005 ; slow yr roll. ---> http://www.fourthcity.net/ quick links: > http://www.fourthcity.net/ [ fct] > http://www.zapan.net/ [ zapan] > http://www.laptopbattle.org/ [ battle] > http://www.postermidget.com/ [ midget] + + + + + + + ----> much love! from the fourthcity studios <---- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-07 18:30Paul Sandersthe theoretical capacity is 74 minutes - don't know whether this is exact or not. http://e
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the theoretical capacity is 74 minutes - don't know whether this is exact or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc i wouldn't put more than 70 minutes on a cd. maybe it's just superstition, but i reckon the edges get dirty and damaged sooner than the middle, and if there are any slight manufacturing flaws the effect would be magnified towards the edge. if the drive has been designed with no spare anything then it might be at the edge of its engineering tolerance too - meaning that the tracking has a greater chance of failing right at the outside edge. but then i am a nervous type. i know some scary people that go right up to the 74, or more, even on commercial mass market releases! cheerio paul On 7 Nov 2005, at 17:14, > wrote:
quoted 42 lines does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd> does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd > that > will be sure to play on most everyone's cd player? > > thanks, > -z > > > > -- > > fourthcity 2005 ; slow yr roll. ---> http://www.fourthcity.net/ > > > quick links: > > >> http://www.fourthcity.net/ [ fct] >> http://www.zapan.net/ [ zapan] >> http://www.laptopbattle.org/ [ battle] >> http://www.postermidget.com/ [ midget] >> >> > > > + > + > + > + + > + > + > > > ----> much love! from the fourthcity studios <---- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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2005-11-07 19:46incredible weirdo80 minutes is what you'll typically find most CDR's to be. There is some burning software
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80 minutes is what you'll typically find most CDR's to be. There is some burning software that will allow you to go over that, with the warning that it may not burn properly or be playable in all players. 80 minutes is standard - shorter 70 or 74 (I don't recall exactly what the shorter ones run at) minute CDR's may not play in older CD players, as the width of the tracks is not the same (that's why they're shorter - they use just as much area as the longer discs for less data). I.W. On 11/7/05, << z a p a n >> <zapan@fourthcity.net> wrote:
quoted 37 lines does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd that> > does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd that > will be sure to play on most everyone's cd player? > > thanks, > -z > > > > -- > > fourthcity 2005 ; slow yr roll. ---> http://www.fourthcity.net/ > > > quick links: > > http://www.fourthcity.net/ [ fct] > > http://www.zapan.net/ [ zapan] > > http://www.laptopbattle.org/ [ battle] > > http://www.postermidget.com/ [ midget] > > > + > + > + > + + > + > + > > > ----> much love! from the fourthcity studios <---- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
2005-11-07 19:57Tim Walters> 80 minutes is > standard - shorter 70 or 74 (I don't recall exactly what the shorter one
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quoted 5 lines 80 minutes is> 80 minutes is > standard - shorter 70 or 74 (I don't recall exactly what the shorter ones > run at) minute CDR's may not play in older CD players, as the width of the > tracks is not the same (that's why they're shorter - they use just as much > area as the longer discs for less data).
The Red Book specification for CD length is 74 minutes: http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid5_gci503642,00.html Any CD longer than that is technically out of spec. Your statement above is exactly backwards--it's CDs longer than 74 minutes that might have problems (although those problems are quite rare). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-07 20:26theREALmxyzptlkI'm no expert, but the red book specs were written in 1980/1, right? jeff >The Red Book sp
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I'm no expert, but the red book specs were written in 1980/1, right? jeff
quoted 11 lines The Red Book specification for CD length is 74 minutes:>The Red Book specification for CD length is 74 minutes: > >http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid5_gci503642,00.html > >Any CD longer than that is technically out of spec. Your statement above >is exactly backwards--it's CDs longer than 74 minutes that might have >problems (although those problems are quite rare). > > > >
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2005-11-07 20:37Tim Walters> I'm no expert, but the red book specs were written in 1980/1, right? Yes. It's still the
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quoted 1 line I'm no expert, but the red book specs were written in 1980/1, right?> I'm no expert, but the red book specs were written in 1980/1, right?
Yes. It's still the defining specification for CD audio, though. If you're worried about compatibility with all players (as the original poster specifically asked about), you should comply with the Red Book and keep your CDs 74 minutes or less (and use 74-minute CD-Rs; an 80-minute CD-R isn't Red Book even if it has less than 74 minutes of audio on it). But it's mostly a theoretical problem. Even my first CD player (c. 1985) had no trouble with >74 minute CDs. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-07 20:42Mantrakidmy CD player plays bologna. Tim Walters wrote: >>I'm no expert, but the red book specs wer
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my CD player plays bologna. Tim Walters wrote:
quoted 21 lines I'm no expert, but the red book specs were written in 1980/1, right?>>I'm no expert, but the red book specs were written in 1980/1, right? >> >> > >Yes. It's still the defining specification for CD audio, though. If you're >worried about compatibility with all players (as the original poster >specifically asked about), you should comply with the Red Book and keep >your CDs 74 minutes or less (and use 74-minute CD-Rs; an 80-minute CD-R >isn't Red Book even if it has less than 74 minutes of audio on it). > >But it's mostly a theoretical problem. Even my first CD player (c. 1985) >had no trouble with >74 minute CDs. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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2005-11-07 18:15David @ Audiobulb72 ----- Original Message ----- From: "<< z a p a n >>" <zapan@fourthcity.net> To: "IDM Li
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72 ----- Original Message ----- From: "<< z a p a n >>" <zapan@fourthcity.net> To: "IDM List" <IDM@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 5:14 PM Subject: [idm] homie
quoted 38 lines does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd that> does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd that > will be sure to play on most everyone's cd player? > > thanks, > -z > > > > -- > > fourthcity 2005 ; slow yr roll. ---> http://www.fourthcity.net/ > > > quick links: > > http://www.fourthcity.net/ [ fct] > > http://www.zapan.net/ [ zapan] > > http://www.laptopbattle.org/ [ battle] > > http://www.postermidget.com/ [ midget] > > > + > + > + > + + > + > + > > > ----> much love! from the fourthcity studios <---- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >
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2005-11-07 19:17Wendy Branson76:14 --Wendy > 72 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "<< z a p a n >>" <zapan@fourthc
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76:14 --Wendy
quoted 53 lines 72> 72 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "<< z a p a n >>" <zapan@fourthcity.net> > To: "IDM List" <IDM@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 5:14 PM > Subject: [idm] homie > > > > does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd > that > > will be sure to play on most everyone's cd player? > > > > thanks, > > -z > > > > > > > > -- > > > > fourthcity 2005 ; slow yr roll. ---> http://www.fourthcity.net/ > > > > > > quick links: > > > http://www.fourthcity.net/ [ fct] > > > http://www.zapan.net/ [ zapan] > > > http://www.laptopbattle.org/ [ battle] > > > http://www.postermidget.com/ [ midget] > > > > > > + > > + > > + > > + + > > + > > + > > > > > > ----> much love! from the fourthcity studios <---- > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2005-11-07 18:35therealmxyzptlk@comcast.net80 minutes is pretty much standard these days. In my neck of the woods, it's hard to find
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80 minutes is pretty much standard these days. In my neck of the woods, it's hard to find a 74 minute cdr blank. jeff
quoted 73 lines the theoretical capacity is 74 minutes - don't know whether this is> > the theoretical capacity is 74 minutes - don't know whether this is > exact or not. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc > > i wouldn't put more than 70 minutes on a cd. maybe it's just > superstition, but i reckon the edges get dirty and damaged sooner > than the middle, and if there are any slight manufacturing flaws the > effect would be magnified towards the edge. if the drive has been > designed with no spare anything then it might be at the edge of its > engineering tolerance too - meaning that the tracking has a greater > chance of failing right at the outside edge. > > but then i am a nervous type. i know some scary people that go right > up to the 74, or more, even on commercial mass market releases! > > cheerio > > paul > > On 7 Nov 2005, at 17:14, > wrote: > > > > does anyone know how many minutes (maximum) will fit on an audio cd > > that > > will be sure to play on most everyone's cd player? > > > > thanks, > > -z > > > > > > > > -- > > > > fourthcity 2005 ; slow yr roll. ---> http://www.fourthcity.net/ > > > > > > quick links: > > > > > >> http://www.fourthcity.net/ [ fct] > >> http://www.zapan.net/ [ zapan] > >> http://www.laptopbattle.org/ [ battle] > >> http://www.postermidget.com/ [ midget] > >> > >> > > > > > > + > > + > > + > > + + > > + > > + > > > > > > ----> much love! from the fourthcity studios <---- > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2005-11-07 20:41John Goelzer>> The Red Book specification for >> CD length is 74 minutes > I'm no expert, but the red
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quoted 2 lines The Red Book specification for>> The Red Book specification for >> CD length is 74 minutes
quoted 2 lines I'm no expert, but the red book specs> I'm no expert, but the red book specs > were written in 1980/1, right?
That sounds about right, and I know more than a few people still using CD players from the early 80s that are in fine working order. I've since deleted it, but I believe the original post was looking for the lowest common denominator, a safe length to stay under such that his CDs would play in ALL antique/oddball CD players (not to mention old CD-ROM drives, PlayStations, etc.), and the answer to that question would be to stay under 74 minutes. Using 80-minute CDRs would be a mistake. I seem to remember hearing what might've been an urban legend about how the 74-minute spec was arrived at based on the length of a particular recording of a particular piece of classical music favored by one of the (Philips?) CD engineers. Or did I make that up? JG --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-07 22:15incredible weirdoYes, and it was Beethoven's Fifth, I believe. It's not an urban legend, though, it's quite
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Yes, and it was Beethoven's Fifth, I believe. It's not an urban legend, though, it's quite true. As for my switching the details of 80 vs. 74 minutes, I used to have trouble with CD players playing 74 minute discs, before the 80 minute CDR's came out. I had believed that because burned CD's had a different technology than pressed discs that when 80 minute discs came out they had simply caught up to the CD spec. Apparently I was incorrect. I.W. On 11/7/05, John Goelzer <johng@engberganderson.com> wrote:
quoted 14 lines I seem to remember hearing what might've been an urban legend about how> > > I seem to remember hearing what might've been an urban legend about how > the 74-minute spec was arrived at based on the length of a particular > recording of a particular piece of classical music favored by one of the > (Philips?) CD engineers. Or did I make that up? > > JG > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
2005-11-07 22:34David Hodgsonactually it was Beethoven's 9th Symphony ...http://www.snopes.com/music/media/cdlength.htm
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actually it was Beethoven's 9th Symphony ...http://www.snopes.com/music/media/cdlength.htm ...david / pbe ----- At 16:15 07/11/2005 -0600, incredible weirdo wrote:
quoted 24 lines Yes, and it was Beethoven's Fifth, I believe. It's not an urban legend,>Yes, and it was Beethoven's Fifth, I believe. It's not an urban legend, >though, it's quite true. > As for my switching the details of 80 vs. 74 minutes, I used to have >trouble with CD players playing 74 minute discs, before the 80 minute CDR's >came out. I had believed that because burned CD's had a different technology >than pressed discs that when 80 minute discs came out they had simply caught >up to the CD spec. Apparently I was incorrect. > I.W. > > On 11/7/05, John Goelzer <johng@engberganderson.com> wrote: > > > > > > I seem to remember hearing what might've been an urban legend about how > > the 74-minute spec was arrived at based on the length of a particular > > recording of a particular piece of classical music favored by one of the > > (Philips?) CD engineers. Or did I make that up? > > > > JG > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >
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2005-11-07 23:06nat hawksi love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they just... look right. but, a
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i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they just... look right. but, are these obscured? now that new computers they cannot be put into (yoda-speak, beaotch!) seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE 3"ers? i, like, need to know. nat http://www.littlefurythings.net
quoted 47 lines From: David Hodgson <playing.by.ear@mindspring.com>>From: David Hodgson <playing.by.ear@mindspring.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] homie >Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:34:00 -0700 > >actually it was Beethoven's 9th Symphony >...http://www.snopes.com/music/media/cdlength.htm ...david / pbe > >----- > > >At 16:15 07/11/2005 -0600, incredible weirdo wrote: >>Yes, and it was Beethoven's Fifth, I believe. It's not an urban legend, >>though, it's quite true. >> As for my switching the details of 80 vs. 74 minutes, I used to have >>trouble with CD players playing 74 minute discs, before the 80 minute >>CDR's >>came out. I had believed that because burned CD's had a different >>technology >>than pressed discs that when 80 minute discs came out they had simply >>caught >>up to the CD spec. Apparently I was incorrect. >> I.W. >> >> On 11/7/05, John Goelzer <johng@engberganderson.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > I seem to remember hearing what might've been an urban legend about how >> > the 74-minute spec was arrived at based on the length of a particular >> > recording of a particular piece of classical music favored by one of >>the >> > (Philips?) CD engineers. Or did I make that up? >> > >> > JG >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > >> > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2005-11-07 23:55theREALmxyzptlknat hawks wrote: > i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they > just.
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quoted 11 lines i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they> i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they > just... look right. > > but, are these obscured? now that new computers they cannot be put > into (yoda-speak, beaotch!) > > seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE 3"ers? i, like, need to know. > > nat > http://www.littlefurythings.net >
I likes 'em. I buy most of them. Awkward Silence just put out a nice batch of them. Quinoline Yellow just released a web-only ltd. 3"cd. They're fun and exciting. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-07 23:57Tim MooreThey are nifty in principle, but there are too many players they can't be put in (includin
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They are nifty in principle, but there are too many players they can't be put in (including my computer!) Since I tend to rip all of my CDs to MP3s and listen to them that way, it's kind of an inconvenience. Ditto with the funny-shaped CDs you sometimes see. On Nov 7, 2005, at 3:06 PM, nat hawks wrote:
quoted 74 lines i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they> i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they > just... look right. > > but, are these obscured? now that new computers they cannot be put > into (yoda-speak, beaotch!) > > seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE 3"ers? i, like, need to know. > > nat > http://www.littlefurythings.net > > >> From: David Hodgson <playing.by.ear@mindspring.com> >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [idm] homie >> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:34:00 -0700 >> >> actually it was Beethoven's 9th Symphony >> ...http://www.snopes.com/music/media/cdlength.htm ...david / pbe >> >> ----- >> >> >> At 16:15 07/11/2005 -0600, incredible weirdo wrote: >>> Yes, and it was Beethoven's Fifth, I believe. It's not an urban >>> legend, >>> though, it's quite true. >>> As for my switching the details of 80 vs. 74 minutes, I used to have >>> trouble with CD players playing 74 minute discs, before the 80 >>> minute CDR's >>> came out. I had believed that because burned CD's had a different >>> technology >>> than pressed discs that when 80 minute discs came out they had >>> simply caught >>> up to the CD spec. Apparently I was incorrect. >>> I.W. >>> >>> On 11/7/05, John Goelzer <johng@engberganderson.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > I seem to remember hearing what might've been an urban legend >>> about how >>> > the 74-minute spec was arrived at based on the length of a >>> particular >>> > recording of a particular piece of classical music favored by one >>> of the >>> > (Philips?) CD engineers. Or did I make that up? >>> > >>> > JG >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> > >>> > >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how > to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2005-11-08 03:57Cory O'BrienYes, I concur. My *only* method of listening to music is burning the CD's I buy onto my 12
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Yes, I concur. My *only* method of listening to music is burning the CD's I buy onto my 12" Powerbook; And if I put on of those 3" CD's in my slot loading drive! HA! Goodbye Powerbook! They do make those "Fan" CD's though. Basically a 3" CD with a 2" ring of clear plastic surrounding it. Thus making it playable in slot loading drives. Cory ------------------------------------- http://myosound.com http://clouds-out.myosound.com On Nov 7, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Tim Moore wrote:
quoted 17 lines They are nifty in principle, but there are too many players they can't> They are nifty in principle, but there are too many players they can't > be put in (including my computer!) Since I tend to rip all of my CDs > to MP3s and listen to them that way, it's kind of an inconvenience. > Ditto with the funny-shaped CDs you sometimes see. > > On Nov 7, 2005, at 3:06 PM, nat hawks wrote: > >> i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they >> just... look right. >> >> but, are these obscured? now that new computers they cannot be put >> into (yoda-speak, beaotch!) >> >> seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE 3"ers? i, like, need to know. >> >> nat >> http://www.littlefurythings.net
2005-11-08 04:06Alan LucasOn 11/7/05, Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, I concur. > My *only* method
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quoted 13 lines Yes, I concur.> Yes, I concur. > My *only* method of listening to music is burning the CD's I buy onto > my 12" Powerbook; > And if I put on of those 3" CD's in my slot loading drive! HA! Goodbye > Powerbook! > > They do make those "Fan" CD's though. Basically a 3" CD with a 2" ring > of clear plastic > surrounding it. Thus making it playable in slot loading drives. > > > Cory >
They also make little plastic rings that you can secure around the 3" CD, therby allowing for play in slot-loading players. I have one that came with my "Are we not men who live and die" 3" CD by Cylob. Not sure where you'd be able to just get ahold of one, but they have to be out there somewhere! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-08 04:07nat hawks?? what are these "Fan" 3" CDRs? have not seen these... please advise.... it would be cool
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?? what are these "Fan" 3" CDRs? have not seen these... please advise.... it would be cool if you could take the 'fan' on and off... hmmm...
quoted 42 lines From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com>>From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?! >Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:57:54 -0500 > >Yes, I concur. >My *only* method of listening to music is burning the CD's I buy onto my >12" Powerbook; >And if I put on of those 3" CD's in my slot loading drive! HA! Goodbye >Powerbook! > >They do make those "Fan" CD's though. Basically a 3" CD with a 2" ring of >clear plastic >surrounding it. Thus making it playable in slot loading drives. > > >Cory > >------------------------------------- >http://myosound.com >http://clouds-out.myosound.com > > >On Nov 7, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Tim Moore wrote: > >>They are nifty in principle, but there are too many players they can't be >>put in (including my computer!) Since I tend to rip all of my CDs to MP3s >>and listen to them that way, it's kind of an inconvenience. Ditto with the >>funny-shaped CDs you sometimes see. >> >>On Nov 7, 2005, at 3:06 PM, nat hawks wrote: >> >>>i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they just... >>>look right. >>> >>>but, are these obscured? now that new computers they cannot be put into >>>(yoda-speak, beaotch!) >>> >>>seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE 3"ers? i, like, need to know. >>> >>>nat >>>http://www.littlefurythings.net
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2005-11-08 06:55Cory O'BrienI spotted them as a duplication option at cdman.com: http://www.cdman.com/store/fancd.html
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I spotted them as a duplication option at cdman.com: http://www.cdman.com/store/fancd.html Not sure where to get them bulk though. I'm sure it's possible; I mean, cdman.com must buy them somewhere right? Cory ------------------------------------- http://myosound.com http://clouds-out.myosound.com On Nov 7, 2005, at 11:07 PM, nat hawks wrote:
quoted 53 lines ??> ?? > > what are these "Fan" 3" CDRs? have not seen these... please advise.... > it would be cool if you could take the 'fan' on and off... hmmm... > > >> From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?! >> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:57:54 -0500 >> >> Yes, I concur. >> My *only* method of listening to music is burning the CD's I buy onto >> my 12" Powerbook; >> And if I put on of those 3" CD's in my slot loading drive! HA! >> Goodbye Powerbook! >> >> They do make those "Fan" CD's though. Basically a 3" CD with a 2" >> ring of clear plastic >> surrounding it. Thus making it playable in slot loading drives. >> >> >> Cory >> >> ------------------------------------- >> http://myosound.com >> http://clouds-out.myosound.com >> >> >> On Nov 7, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Tim Moore wrote: >> >>> They are nifty in principle, but there are too many players they >>> can't be put in (including my computer!) Since I tend to rip all of >>> my CDs to MP3s and listen to them that way, it's kind of an >>> inconvenience. Ditto with the funny-shaped CDs you sometimes see. >>> >>> On Nov 7, 2005, at 3:06 PM, nat hawks wrote: >>> >>>> i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they >>>> just... look right. >>>> >>>> but, are these obscured? now that new computers they cannot be put >>>> into (yoda-speak, beaotch!) >>>> >>>> seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE 3"ers? i, like, need to know. >>>> >>>> nat >>>> http://www.littlefurythings.net > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's > FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >
2005-11-08 07:01Jong-Ilist Massivethat seems retarded somehow, to me. On 11/8/05, Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> wrote:
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that seems retarded somehow, to me. On 11/8/05, Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 73 lines I spotted them as a duplication option at cdman.com:> I spotted them as a duplication option at cdman.com: > > http://www.cdman.com/store/fancd.html > > Not sure where to get them bulk though. I'm sure it's possible; > I mean, cdman.com must buy them somewhere right? > > > Cory > > > ------------------------------------- > http://myosound.com > http://clouds-out.myosound.com > > > On Nov 7, 2005, at 11:07 PM, nat hawks wrote: > > > ?? > > > > what are these "Fan" 3" CDRs? have not seen these... please advise.... > > it would be cool if you could take the 'fan' on and off... hmmm... > > > > > >> From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> > >> To: idm@hyperreal.org > >> Subject: Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?! > >> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:57:54 -0500 > >> > >> Yes, I concur. > >> My *only* method of listening to music is burning the CD's I buy onto > >> my 12" Powerbook; > >> And if I put on of those 3" CD's in my slot loading drive! HA! > >> Goodbye Powerbook! > >> > >> They do make those "Fan" CD's though. Basically a 3" CD with a 2" > >> ring of clear plastic > >> surrounding it. Thus making it playable in slot loading drives. > >> > >> > >> Cory > >> > >> ------------------------------------- > >> http://myosound.com > >> http://clouds-out.myosound.com > >> > >> > >> On Nov 7, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Tim Moore wrote: > >> > >>> They are nifty in principle, but there are too many players they > >>> can't be put in (including my computer!) Since I tend to rip all of > >>> my CDs to MP3s and listen to them that way, it's kind of an > >>> inconvenience. Ditto with the funny-shaped CDs you sometimes see. > >>> > >>> On Nov 7, 2005, at 3:06 PM, nat hawks wrote: > >>> > >>>> i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they > >>>> just... look right. > >>>> > >>>> but, are these obscured? now that new computers they cannot be put > >>>> into (yoda-speak, beaotch!) > >>>> > >>>> seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE 3"ers? i, like, need to know. > >>>> > >>>> nat > >>>> http://www.littlefurythings.net > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's > > FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > >
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2005-11-08 07:05mantrakidme too... why not just toss 20some minutes on a normal cd......... Jong-Ilist Massive wrot
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me too... why not just toss 20some minutes on a normal cd......... Jong-Ilist Massive wrote:
quoted 104 lines that seems retarded somehow, to me.>that seems retarded somehow, to me. > >On 11/8/05, Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>I spotted them as a duplication option at cdman.com: >> >>http://www.cdman.com/store/fancd.html >> >>Not sure where to get them bulk though. I'm sure it's possible; >>I mean, cdman.com must buy them somewhere right? >> >> >>Cory >> >> >>------------------------------------- >>http://myosound.com >>http://clouds-out.myosound.com >> >> >>On Nov 7, 2005, at 11:07 PM, nat hawks wrote: >> >> >> >>>?? >>> >>>what are these "Fan" 3" CDRs? have not seen these... please advise.... >>>it would be cool if you could take the 'fan' on and off... hmmm... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> >>>>To: idm@hyperreal.org >>>>Subject: Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?! >>>>Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:57:54 -0500 >>>> >>>>Yes, I concur. >>>>My *only* method of listening to music is burning the CD's I buy onto >>>>my 12" Powerbook; >>>>And if I put on of those 3" CD's in my slot loading drive! HA! >>>>Goodbye Powerbook! >>>> >>>>They do make those "Fan" CD's though. Basically a 3" CD with a 2" >>>>ring of clear plastic >>>>surrounding it. Thus making it playable in slot loading drives. >>>> >>>> >>>>Cory >>>> >>>>------------------------------------- >>>>http://myosound.com >>>>http://clouds-out.myosound.com >>>> >>>> >>>>On Nov 7, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Tim Moore wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>They are nifty in principle, but there are too many players they >>>>>can't be put in (including my computer!) Since I tend to rip all of >>>>>my CDs to MP3s and listen to them that way, it's kind of an >>>>>inconvenience. Ditto with the funny-shaped CDs you sometimes see. >>>>> >>>>>On Nov 7, 2005, at 3:06 PM, nat hawks wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they >>>>>>just... look right. >>>>>> >>>>>>but, are these obscured? now that new computers they cannot be put >>>>>>into (yoda-speak, beaotch!) >>>>>> >>>>>>seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE 3"ers? i, like, need to know. >>>>>> >>>>>>nat >>>>>>http://www.littlefurythings.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's >>>FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >-- >pete lastname >meatsock@gmail.com >www.grep-fu.net > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >
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2005-11-08 07:10Cory O'BrienRIDICULOUS!!! VIVA LA FANCD!! Cory ------------------------------------- http://myosound.c
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RIDICULOUS!!! VIVA LA FANCD!! Cory ------------------------------------- http://myosound.com http://clouds-out.myosound.com On Nov 8, 2005, at 2:05 AM, mantrakid wrote:
quoted 16 lines me too...> me too... > > why not just toss 20some minutes on a normal cd......... > > Jong-Ilist Massive wrote: > >> that seems retarded somehow, to me. >> >> On 11/8/05, Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I spotted them as a duplication option at cdman.com: >>> >>> http://www.cdman.com/store/fancd.html >>> >>> Not sure where to get them bulk though. I'm sure it's possible; >>> I mean, cdman.com must buy them somewhere right?
2005-11-08 07:10Jong-Ilist MassiveNEW FROM PIZZA HUT: LARGE PIZZA, IN LARGE BOX, WITH 5 INCHES CUT OFF THE OUTSIDE. On 11/8/
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NEW FROM PIZZA HUT: LARGE PIZZA, IN LARGE BOX, WITH 5 INCHES CUT OFF THE OUTSIDE. On 11/8/05, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:
quoted 127 lines me too...> me too... > > why not just toss 20some minutes on a normal cd......... > > Jong-Ilist Massive wrote: > > >that seems retarded somehow, to me. > > > >On 11/8/05, Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >>I spotted them as a duplication option at cdman.com: > >> > >>http://www.cdman.com/store/fancd.html > >> > >>Not sure where to get them bulk though. I'm sure it's possible; > >>I mean, cdman.com must buy them somewhere right? > >> > >> > >>Cory > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------- > >>http://myosound.com > >>http://clouds-out.myosound.com > >> > >> > >>On Nov 7, 2005, at 11:07 PM, nat hawks wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>?? > >>> > >>>what are these "Fan" 3" CDRs? have not seen these... please advise.... > >>>it would be cool if you could take the 'fan' on and off... hmmm... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> > >>>>To: idm@hyperreal.org > >>>>Subject: Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?! > >>>>Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:57:54 -0500 > >>>> > >>>>Yes, I concur. > >>>>My *only* method of listening to music is burning the CD's I buy onto > >>>>my 12" Powerbook; > >>>>And if I put on of those 3" CD's in my slot loading drive! HA! > >>>>Goodbye Powerbook! > >>>> > >>>>They do make those "Fan" CD's though. Basically a 3" CD with a 2" > >>>>ring of clear plastic > >>>>surrounding it. Thus making it playable in slot loading drives. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Cory > >>>> > >>>>------------------------------------- > >>>>http://myosound.com > >>>>http://clouds-out.myosound.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>On Nov 7, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Tim Moore wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>They are nifty in principle, but there are too many players they > >>>>>can't be put in (including my computer!) Since I tend to rip all of > >>>>>my CDs to MP3s and listen to them that way, it's kind of an > >>>>>inconvenience. Ditto with the funny-shaped CDs you sometimes see. > >>>>> > >>>>>On Nov 7, 2005, at 3:06 PM, nat hawks wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they > >>>>>>just... look right. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>but, are these obscured? now that new computers they cannot be put > >>>>>>into (yoda-speak, beaotch!) > >>>>>> > >>>>>>seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE 3"ers? i, like, need to know. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>nat > >>>>>>http://www.littlefurythings.net > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>_________________________________________________________________ > >>>Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's > >>>FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > >pete lastname > >meatsock@gmail.com > >www.grep-fu.net > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > www.neferiu.com <http://www.neferiu.com> > www.neferiu.com > calgary *·* alberta > 403*·*852*·*6801 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2005-11-08 07:28Cory O'BrienAH! But large pizzas don't open up entirely new avenues for packaging and design! And thos
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AH! But large pizzas don't open up entirely new avenues for packaging and design! And those extra 5 inches might save space in the drivers car, thus alowing him to carry and extra 2 pizzas every trip! Think Think Think Think... ------------------------------------- http://myosound.com http://clouds-out.myosound.com On Nov 8, 2005, at 2:10 AM, Jong-Ilist Massive wrote:
quoted 150 lines NEW FROM PIZZA HUT:> NEW FROM PIZZA HUT: > > LARGE PIZZA, IN LARGE BOX, WITH 5 INCHES CUT OFF THE OUTSIDE. > > On 11/8/05, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: >> me too... >> >> why not just toss 20some minutes on a normal cd......... >> >> Jong-Ilist Massive wrote: >> >>> that seems retarded somehow, to me. >>> >>> On 11/8/05, Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I spotted them as a duplication option at cdman.com: >>>> >>>> http://www.cdman.com/store/fancd.html >>>> >>>> Not sure where to get them bulk though. I'm sure it's possible; >>>> I mean, cdman.com must buy them somewhere right? >>>> >>>> >>>> Cory >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------- >>>> http://myosound.com >>>> http://clouds-out.myosound.com >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 7, 2005, at 11:07 PM, nat hawks wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> ?? >>>>> >>>>> what are these "Fan" 3" CDRs? have not seen these... please >>>>> advise.... >>>>> it would be cool if you could take the 'fan' on and off... hmmm... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?! >>>>>> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:57:54 -0500 >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I concur. >>>>>> My *only* method of listening to music is burning the CD's I buy >>>>>> onto >>>>>> my 12" Powerbook; >>>>>> And if I put on of those 3" CD's in my slot loading drive! HA! >>>>>> Goodbye Powerbook! >>>>>> >>>>>> They do make those "Fan" CD's though. Basically a 3" CD with a 2" >>>>>> ring of clear plastic >>>>>> surrounding it. Thus making it playable in slot loading drives. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cory >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------- >>>>>> http://myosound.com >>>>>> http://clouds-out.myosound.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 7, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Tim Moore wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> They are nifty in principle, but there are too many players they >>>>>>> can't be put in (including my computer!) Since I tend to rip all >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> my CDs to MP3s and listen to them that way, it's kind of an >>>>>>> inconvenience. Ditto with the funny-shaped CDs you sometimes see. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2005, at 3:06 PM, nat hawks wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they >>>>>>>> just... look right. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but, are these obscured? now that new computers they cannot be >>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>> into (yoda-speak, beaotch!) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE 3"ers? i, like, need to >>>>>>>> know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> nat >>>>>>>> http://www.littlefurythings.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - >>>>> it's >>>>> FREE! >>>>> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> pete lastname >>> meatsock@gmail.com >>> www.grep-fu.net >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> www.neferiu.com <http://www.neferiu.com> >> www.neferiu.com >> calgary *·* alberta >> 403*·*852*·*6801 >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > -- > pete lastname > meatsock@gmail.com > www.grep-fu.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
2005-11-08 10:58Scarcelight Recordingsfrom a design standpoint they look really fantastic. the Scarcelight release by Chuck Bett
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from a design standpoint they look really fantastic. the Scarcelight release by Chuck Bettis uses a fan-cd housed in a clear jewel case. gotten nothing but compliments on the package (mr bettis designed it himself) --- Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 140 lines AH! But large pizzas don't open up entirely new> AH! But large pizzas don't open up entirely new > avenues for packaging > and design! > > And those extra 5 inches might save space in the > drivers car, > thus alowing him to carry and extra 2 pizzas every > trip! > > > Think Think Think Think... > > ------------------------------------- > http://myosound.com > http://clouds-out.myosound.com > > > > On Nov 8, 2005, at 2:10 AM, Jong-Ilist Massive > wrote: > > > NEW FROM PIZZA HUT: > > > > LARGE PIZZA, IN LARGE BOX, WITH 5 INCHES CUT OFF > THE OUTSIDE. > > > > On 11/8/05, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> > wrote: > >> me too... > >> > >> why not just toss 20some minutes on a normal > cd......... > >> > >> Jong-Ilist Massive wrote: > >> > >>> that seems retarded somehow, to me. > >>> > >>> On 11/8/05, Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> I spotted them as a duplication option at > cdman.com: > >>>> > >>>> http://www.cdman.com/store/fancd.html > >>>> > >>>> Not sure where to get them bulk though. I'm > sure it's possible; > >>>> I mean, cdman.com must buy them somewhere > right? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Cory > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------- > >>>> http://myosound.com > >>>> http://clouds-out.myosound.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Nov 7, 2005, at 11:07 PM, nat hawks wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> ?? > >>>>> > >>>>> what are these "Fan" 3" CDRs? have not seen > these... please > >>>>> advise.... > >>>>> it would be cool if you could take the 'fan' > on and off... hmmm... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> > >>>>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?! > >>>>>> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:57:54 -0500 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yes, I concur. > >>>>>> My *only* method of listening to music is > burning the CD's I buy > >>>>>> onto > >>>>>> my 12" Powerbook; > >>>>>> And if I put on of those 3" CD's in my slot > loading drive! HA! > >>>>>> Goodbye Powerbook! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> They do make those "Fan" CD's though. > Basically a 3" CD with a 2" > >>>>>> ring of clear plastic > >>>>>> surrounding it. Thus making it playable in > slot loading drives. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cory > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------- > >>>>>> http://myosound.com > >>>>>> http://clouds-out.myosound.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Nov 7, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Tim Moore wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> They are nifty in principle, but there are > too many players they > >>>>>>> can't be put in (including my computer!) > Since I tend to rip all > >>>>>>> of > >>>>>>> my CDs to MP3s and listen to them that way, > it's kind of an > >>>>>>> inconvenience. Ditto with the funny-shaped > CDs you sometimes see. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2005, at 3:06 PM, nat hawks wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and > for short releases they > >>>>>>>> just... look right. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> but, are these obscured? now that new > computers they cannot be > >>>>>>>> put > >>>>>>>> into (yoda-speak, beaotch!) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE > 3"ers? i, like, need to > >>>>>>>> know. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> nat > >>>>>>>> http://www.littlefurythings.net > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> >
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2005-11-08 12:30iteration zeroOn 11/8/05, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > me too... > > why not just toss 2
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On 11/8/05, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:
quoted 4 lines me too...> > me too... > > why not just toss 20some minutes on a normal cd.........
It changes the aesthetics of the release. Take a look at Jake Mandell's "Placekick", Kid606's "Soccer Girl" and Kit Clayton/Safety Scissors's "Ping-Pong" EPs on Carpark. They designed the art to print past the recordable edges; it makes the football/soccerball/ping-pong ball look like they're floating on the disc. If they used a regular 5" disc, it would look like it was just printed on a field of silver and lose some of the look. They're also good for labels / artists going for a minimal look. Reference the 20' to 2000 series on Raster. i0
2005-11-08 12:46Jong-Ilist Massiveoh noes! i for one would NEVER buy a CD without 'the look!' On 11/8/05, iteration zero <it
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oh noes! i for one would NEVER buy a CD without 'the look!' On 11/8/05, iteration zero <iterationzero@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 19 lines On 11/8/05, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:> On 11/8/05, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > > > me too... > > > > why not just toss 20some minutes on a normal cd......... > > > It changes the aesthetics of the release. Take a look at Jake Mandell's > "Placekick", Kid606's "Soccer Girl" and Kit Clayton/Safety Scissors's > "Ping-Pong" EPs on Carpark. They designed the art to print past the > recordable edges; it makes the football/soccerball/ping-pong ball look like > they're floating on the disc. If they used a regular 5" disc, it would look > like it was just printed on a field of silver and lose some of the look. > They're also good for labels / artists going for a minimal look. Reference > the 20' to 2000 series on Raster. > > i0 > >
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2005-11-08 16:55Matt TaskerJong-Ilist Massive wrote: > oh noes! i for one would NEVER buy a CD without 'the look!' Wa
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Jong-Ilist Massive wrote:
quoted 1 line oh noes! i for one would NEVER buy a CD without 'the look!'> oh noes! i for one would NEVER buy a CD without 'the look!'
Way to miss the point.
quoted 8 lines It changes the aesthetics of the release. Take a look at Jake Mandell's>>It changes the aesthetics of the release. Take a look at Jake Mandell's >>"Placekick", Kid606's "Soccer Girl" and Kit Clayton/Safety Scissors's >>"Ping-Pong" EPs on Carpark. They designed the art to print past the >>recordable edges; it makes the football/soccerball/ping-pong ball look like >>they're floating on the disc. If they used a regular 5" disc, it would look >>like it was just printed on a field of silver and lose some of the look. >>They're also good for labels / artists going for a minimal look. Reference >>the 20' to 2000 series on Raster.
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2005-11-08 23:27Jong-Ilist Massiveisnt the point THE MUSIC? just wondering. On 11/8/05, Matt Tasker <mtasker@optonline.net>
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isnt the point THE MUSIC? just wondering. On 11/8/05, Matt Tasker <mtasker@optonline.net> wrote:
quoted 23 lines Jong-Ilist Massive wrote:> Jong-Ilist Massive wrote: > > oh noes! i for one would NEVER buy a CD without 'the look!' > > Way to miss the point. > > > > > > >>It changes the aesthetics of the release. Take a look at Jake Mandell's > >>"Placekick", Kid606's "Soccer Girl" and Kit Clayton/Safety Scissors's > >>"Ping-Pong" EPs on Carpark. They designed the art to print past the > >>recordable edges; it makes the football/soccerball/ping-pong ball look like > >>they're floating on the disc. If they used a regular 5" disc, it would look > >>like it was just printed on a field of silver and lose some of the look. > >>They're also good for labels / artists going for a minimal look. Reference > >>the 20' to 2000 series on Raster. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2005-11-08 23:51Alan LucasOn 11/8/05, Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote: > isnt the point THE MUSIC? > >
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quoted 4 lines isnt the point THE MUSIC?> isnt the point THE MUSIC? > > just wondering. >
Certainly, the music is the focus of a release, but packaging and presentation can set the stage for the listener experience. Raster-Noton does a fantastic job of packaging their releases. Just seeing the way they present the music makes me want to hear more of it. I have a few of the POST series, and I want to hear the rest. I have some of the Static series, and I'd love to hear the rest. With Raster-Noton, the packaging and the music work together flawlessly. I'm always interested to see how a certain artist will interpret the idea behind the series for which they're creating that particular music. Yes, the music is the point, but I sure do appreciate when someone makes an effort to present it in interesting and/or exciting ways (see also Ae + Hafler Trio, or any other Hafler stuff, for that matter). Later, Alan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-11-09 03:03iteration zeroOn 11/8/05, Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote: > > isnt the point THE MUSIC? >
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On 11/8/05, Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 4 lines isnt the point THE MUSIC?> > isnt the point THE MUSIC? > > just wondering.
If that's truly your opinion, then why bother purchasing any music at all? Just troll some filesharing service and download what you want. No messy packaging to worry about. i0
2005-11-09 05:08Jong-Ilist Massiveyour logic does not follow my argument; if the point is THE MUSIC, it is implicit that THE
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your logic does not follow my argument; if the point is THE MUSIC, it is implicit that THE MUSIC is inseperable (or at least closely tied to) THE MUSICIAN; ergo if my primary motivation was appreciation of the music it follows i would want THE MUSICIAN to be able to understand my appreciation; in our culture this is indicated by purchasing his music for a fee, or paying to see him live. there's no reason to go around accusing people of piracy just because they consider the FUNCTION of the content to be superior to the FORM of the packaging. there's no reason to assume everyone is as motivated by price as you are. there's no reason to assume i'm a pirate just because i value 74 minutes of input to my ears above 20 seconds of input to my eyes. beesiiidess, why would i want to troll anywhere other than here? =) please intrepret this as intended in good fun and not a malicious personal attack, mr. zero. On 11/8/05, iteration zero <iterationzero@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 13 lines On 11/8/05, Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:> On 11/8/05, Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote: > > isnt the point THE MUSIC? > > > > just wondering. > > If that's truly your opinion, then why bother purchasing any music at all? > Just troll some filesharing service and download what you want. No messy > packaging to worry about. > > i0 > > >
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2005-11-09 10:49iteration zeroOn 11/9/05, Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote: > > your logic does not follow
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Re: [idm] FanCD's
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On 11/9/05, Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 7 lines your logic does not follow my argument; if the point is THE MUSIC, it> > your logic does not follow my argument; if the point is THE MUSIC, it > is implicit that THE MUSIC is inseperable (or at least closely tied > to) THE MUSICIAN; ergo if my primary motivation was appreciation of > the music it follows i would want THE MUSICIAN to be able to > understand my appreciation; in our culture this is indicated by > purchasing his music for a fee, or paying to see him live.
I disagree - the point is what is presented to the listener. While this obviously includes the music, I don't think anyone would dispute that, it also includes how the music is presented. If the musician (or label) has gone out of their way to produce something special in the physical presentation of the music, wouldn't it show a lack of appreciation to ignore it? there's no reason to go around accusing people of piracy just because
quoted 6 lines they consider the FUNCTION of the content to be superior to the FORM> they consider the FUNCTION of the content to be superior to the FORM > of the packaging. there's no reason to assume everyone is as motivated > by price as you are. there's no reason to assume i'm a pirate just > because i value 74 minutes of input to my ears above 20 seconds of > input to my eyes. >
I wasn't accusing you of anything. I was making a suggestion. If all you're really concerned with is content, then why not just rip all the cd's you purchase to mp3 (or ogg or flac or whatever) and then donate the physical media and packaging to your local library? You talk about considering the function of the content and then assume that the content ends at the music. I disagree. I apologize if I came off as attacking you, this conversation is all in good fun for me as well. And I'm definitely not calling you Mr. Massive. i0
2005-11-09 23:29Jong-Ilist Massivei think that's the best idea i've heard on the internet to date =) On 11/9/05, iteration z
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i think that's the best idea i've heard on the internet to date =) On 11/9/05, iteration zero <iterationzero@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 4 lines I wasn't accusing you of anything. I was making a suggestion. If all you're> I wasn't accusing you of anything. I was making a suggestion. If all you're > really concerned with is content, then why not just rip all the cd's you > purchase to mp3 (or ogg or flac or whatever) and then donate the physical > media and packaging to your local library?
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2005-11-08 00:20Jong-Ilist Massiveif you do this, you should at least offer the option of purchasing the 3" cd in a FULL SIZ
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if you do this, you should at least offer the option of purchasing the 3" cd in a FULL SIZE JEWELBOX i recently got a bunch of 3"s from aus/uk label HERE'S MY CARD, and they totally mess up my CD filing system becayse they're too small =] this is probably not a big issue for most people, but they're not as easy to flip through and don't fit in my cd box On 11/7/05, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 70 lines i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they just...> i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they just... > look right. > > but, are these obscured? now that new computers they cannot be put into > (yoda-speak, beaotch!) > > seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE 3"ers? i, like, need to know. > > nat > http://www.littlefurythings.net > > > >From: David Hodgson <playing.by.ear@mindspring.com> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] homie > >Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:34:00 -0700 > > > >actually it was Beethoven's 9th Symphony > >...http://www.snopes.com/music/media/cdlength.htm ...david / pbe > > > >----- > > > > > >At 16:15 07/11/2005 -0600, incredible weirdo wrote: > >>Yes, and it was Beethoven's Fifth, I believe. It's not an urban legend, > >>though, it's quite true. > >> As for my switching the details of 80 vs. 74 minutes, I used to have > >>trouble with CD players playing 74 minute discs, before the 80 minute > >>CDR's > >>came out. I had believed that because burned CD's had a different > >>technology > >>than pressed discs that when 80 minute discs came out they had simply > >>caught > >>up to the CD spec. Apparently I was incorrect. > >> I.W. > >> > >> On 11/7/05, John Goelzer <johng@engberganderson.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > I seem to remember hearing what might've been an urban legend about how > >> > the 74-minute spec was arrived at based on the length of a particular > >> > recording of a particular piece of classical music favored by one of > >>the > >> > (Philips?) CD engineers. Or did I make that up? > >> > > >> > JG > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2005-11-08 00:28Adam PiontekI like 3" CDs aesthetically. I dislike 3" CDs practically. -adam On Nov 7, 2005, at 6:06 P
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Re: [idm] homie/3" CDRs?!
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I like 3" CDs aesthetically. I dislike 3" CDs practically. -adam On Nov 7, 2005, at 6:06 PM, nat hawks wrote:
quoted 76 lines i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they> i love 3" CDRs... they are so cute! and for short releases they > just... look right. > > but, are these obscured? now that new computers they cannot be put > into (yoda-speak, beaotch!) > > seriously though, do listers NOT LIKE 3"ers? i, like, need to know. > > nat > http://www.littlefurythings.net > > >> From: David Hodgson <playing.by.ear@mindspring.com> >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [idm] homie >> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:34:00 -0700 >> >> actually it was Beethoven's 9th Symphony ...http://www.snopes.com/ >> music/media/cdlength.htm ...david / pbe >> >> ----- >> >> >> At 16:15 07/11/2005 -0600, incredible weirdo wrote: >>> Yes, and it was Beethoven's Fifth, I believe. It's not an urban >>> legend, >>> though, it's quite true. >>> As for my switching the details of 80 vs. 74 minutes, I used to >>> have >>> trouble with CD players playing 74 minute discs, before the 80 >>> minute CDR's >>> came out. I had believed that because burned CD's had a different >>> technology >>> than pressed discs that when 80 minute discs came out they had >>> simply caught >>> up to the CD spec. Apparently I was incorrect. >>> I.W. >>> >>> On 11/7/05, John Goelzer <johng@engberganderson.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > I seem to remember hearing what might've been an urban legend >>> about how >>> > the 74-minute spec was arrived at based on the length of a >>> particular >>> > recording of a particular piece of classical music favored by >>> one of the >>> > (Philips?) CD engineers. Or did I make that up? >>> > >>> > JG >>> > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> - >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> > >>> > >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on > how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx? > cid=Retirement > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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