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Can some one in the know give us a Basic Channel discogrophy. Thanks, Mohsen

On Fri, 20 Jan 1995, Mohsen Gamshad wrote:

quoted 1 line Can some one in the know give us a Basic Channel discogrophy.

> Can some one in the know give us a Basic Channel discogrophy.

Always check the archives first, /music/labels/basic_channel/discog :: Alan M. Parry :: fluid@hyperreal.com :: <finger me for PGP key> :: http://hyperreal.com/~fluid

Just got the Basic Channel comp. in the mail (thanks Des!) and I'm floating about two feet off the ground. This is some crazy stuff! Parts of it sound like a meeting between a mellow U-Ziq and Asmus Tietchens and the rest of it is even stranger. Very industrial, in a way, but not at all abrasive. The discog. at Hyperreal, useful as it is, is sketchy. When were these records made, and by whom? What else have these people done. Between this album and Mike P. my expectations are now several notches above impossible for idm.

On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Miles Egan wrote:

quoted 11 lines Just got the Basic Channel comp. in the mail (thanks Des!) and

> Just got the Basic Channel comp. in the mail (thanks Des!) and > I'm floating about two feet off the ground. This is some crazy stuff! > Parts of it sound like a meeting between a mellow U-Ziq and Asmus > Tietchens and the rest of it is even stranger. Very industrial, in a > way, but not at all abrasive. > The discog. at Hyperreal, useful as it is, is sketchy. When were > these records made, and by whom? What else have these people done. > Between this album and Mike P. my expectations are now several notches > above impossible for idm. > >

If you like, you can e-mail me and I'll let you know some of what I know about BC. Joe Babylon r.e.a.l.m. & Plug Research

On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Miles Egan wrote:

quoted 5 lines Just got the Basic Channel comp. in the mail (thanks Des!) and

> Just got the Basic Channel comp. in the mail (thanks Des!) and > I'm floating about two feet off the ground. This is some crazy stuff! > Parts of it sound like a meeting between a mellow U-Ziq and Asmus > Tietchens and the rest of it is even stranger. Very industrial, in a > way, but not at all abrasive.

Interesting. Apparently the CD comp is a collection of edited, EQd and generally fucked versions of the originals...

quoted 4 lines The discog. at Hyperreal, useful as it is, is sketchy. When were

> The discog. at Hyperreal, useful as it is, is sketchy. When were > these records made, and by whom? What else have these people done. > Between this album and Mike P. my expectations are now several notches > above impossible for idm.

Multipara has some good Basic Channel info at his WWW site. Theres a link to it from my home page (URL in .sig) || [CiM] || u9323899@sys.uea.ac.uk || http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/~u9323899/

Mile Egan Wrote:

quoted 5 lines Just got the Basic Channel comp. in the mail (thanks Des!) and

> > Just got the Basic Channel comp. in the mail (thanks Des!) and > > I'm floating about two feet off the ground. This is some crazy stuff! > > Parts of it sound like a meeting between a mellow U-Ziq and Asmus > > Tietchens and the rest of it is even stranger. Very industrial, in a > > way, but not at all abrasive.

And CiM replied:

quoted 2 lines Interesting. Apparently the CD comp is a collection of edited, EQd and

> Interesting. Apparently the CD comp is a collection of edited, EQd and > generally fucked versions of the originals...

I love this comp. Not having any of the originals made it even more special. My only other BC related purchase is MO4/M04. One of these is a fucked up scratchy quiet version of the other, similar to the tracks on the comp.

quoted 1 line The discog. at Hyperreal, useful as it is, is sketchy.

> > The discog. at Hyperreal, useful as it is, is sketchy.

I have a query about this. Does anyone out there have the comp, _and_ any of the originals, and can tell me what the track order is on the disc. I have deciphered the barely legible listing on the sleeve, but the listing in the discog appears to be reversed from my first guess. Due to the text being in mirror image, it is clear how this could be the case - can anyone tell me? I have asked Will-E but he doesn't know as he doesn't have the comp, and I have tried looking here....

quoted 2 lines Multipara has some good Basic Channel info at his WWW site. Theres a link

> Multipara has some good Basic Channel info at his WWW site. Theres a link > to it from my home page (URL in .sig)

... and I can access CiM's page, but the link to multipara's is refusing me at the moment. thanks, J ^ -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ -_ This has been a message from James Skilton -_ -_-_ aka Steady J -_ -_-_-_ steady-j@firefox.co.uk -_ -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ -_ "I don't have any idea 'bout what's going on"-_ -_-_ - Autechre -_ -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_

Hi, Is it not pretty common knowledge that most of the stuff on Basic Channel is made by a Moritz von Oswald ? We should know him all for the abslutley brilliant Quadrant 12" on Planet E... Some may also know him as part of German wave band Palais Schaumburg... Greets, AA Allert Aalders - Big Time Concepts - allert@knoware.nl - allert@riv.nl why not check http://www.riv.nl/yuliana - a Bio Boostin' Music server shape on IRC - mostly on #digistad

On Thu, 8 Jun 1995, allert wrote:

quoted 15 lines Hi,

> Hi, > > Is it not pretty common knowledge that most of the stuff on Basic Channel > is made by a Moritz von Oswald ? We should know him all for the abslutley > brilliant Quadrant 12" on Planet E... Some may also know him as part of > German wave band Palais Schaumburg... > Greets, > AA > > Allert Aalders - Big Time Concepts - allert@knoware.nl - allert@riv.nl > why not check http://www.riv.nl/yuliana - a Bio Boostin' Music server > shape on IRC - mostly on #digistad > > >

It is a 50-50 effort, Allert. Joe Babylon r.e.a.l.m. & Plug Research

mile egan wrote:

quoted 5 lines Just got the Basic Channel comp. in the mail (thanks Des!) and

>> > Just got the Basic Channel comp. in the mail (thanks Des!) and >> > I'm floating about two feet off the ground. This is some crazy stuff! >> > Parts of it sound like a meeting between a mellow U-Ziq and Asmus >> > Tietchens and the rest of it is even stranger. Very industrial, in a >> > way, but not at all abrasive.

for me the basic reference is dub (the style) and rain (the natural phenomenon). myu-ziq and tietchens are, in my eyes, strange comparisons... tell me more. CiM replied:

quoted 2 lines Interesting. Apparently the CD comp is a collection of edited, EQd and

>> Interesting. Apparently the CD comp is a collection of edited, EQd and >> generally fucked versions of the originals...

not all of the material on the comp is based on basic channel vinyl. one (two?) tracks are same as the vinyl versions, some are, as CiM says, generally fucked. james skilton writes:

quoted 3 lines I love this comp. Not having any of the originals made it even more special.

>I love this comp. Not having any of the originals made it even more special. >My only other BC related purchase is MO4/M04. One of these is a fucked up >scratchy quiet version of the other, similar to the tracks on the comp.

yes. the feel of the cd comp, as has been pointed out earlier (by dave walker?), is different to the vinyl however. the vinyl tracks are very long usually, between 12 to 25 minutes, and what makes the basic channel vinyl special is the resulting spaciousness, and what makes them fascinating is how they don't get boring or, rather, annoying (boring/not boring is a distinction that doesn't really make sense with this kind of music).

quoted 9 lines The discog. at Hyperreal, useful as it is, is sketchy.

>> > The discog. at Hyperreal, useful as it is, is sketchy. > >I have a query about this. Does anyone out there have the comp, _and_ any of >the originals, and can tell me what the track order is on the disc. I have >deciphered the barely legible listing on the sleeve, but the listing in the >discog appears to be reversed from my first guess. Due to the text being in >mirror image, it is clear how this could be the case - can anyone tell me? >I have asked Will-E but he doesn't know as he doesn't have the comp, and I have >tried looking here....

the listing in will-e's comp is indeed reversed.

quoted 5 lines Multipara has some good Basic Channel info at his WWW site. Theres a link

>> Multipara has some good Basic Channel info at his WWW site. Theres a link >> to it from my home page (URL in .sig) > >... and I can access CiM's page, but the link to multipara's is refusing me at >the moment.

i'll fix this as soon as i can access the server again (which is different to the one i get my mail from). hopefully next week i'll be back (with updates again). all i can say right now is that apparently basic channel are moritz von oswald = maurizio, plus marc ernestus. it seems other people have worked on those records as well, but apart from jeff mills on bc #1 (obvious) i don't know details (please fill me in). i'm also not sure when the records came out, but i suspect the first one came out late in 92, and the last one (#9; my favourite) october 94. all of them should still be available. i also plan to include the m (for maurizio) releases with the discog. i have #4 (the one james refers to), ploy, and domina. i don't have any others (e.g. #4.5). any help would be appreciated! new discogs on my page next week: shockwave (bad kreuznach) profan (cologne) (mike ink's label ---does anyone have profan #1 ??) planned: cheap (vienna) greets! p. http://cleopatra.ivw.uni-kl.de:8001/~multip/

On Thu, 8 Jun 1995, multipara wrote:

quoted 3 lines for me the basic reference is dub (the style) and rain (the natural

> for me the basic reference is dub (the style) and rain (the natural > phenomenon). myu-ziq and tietchens are, in my eyes, strange comparisons... > tell me more.

Asmus Tietchens recorded a SUPERB ambient record a few years ago called "Seuchengebiete 2," composed entirely of water noises. The water lends some beautiful textures and Tietchens sculpts them into some amazing structures. I compare B.C. to Mu-Ziq because both employ very mechanical sounding beats to very human effect. The dub influence is quite prominent, too. Interesting music, to be sure. Listening to this while doing my grocery shopping (an extremely surreal experience) also suggested comparisons to some Zoviet France.

quoted 11 lines Miles Egan wrote:

> Miles Egan wrote: > >>>> Just got the Basic Channel comp. in the mail (thanks Des!) and >>>> I'm floating about two feet off the ground. This is some crazy stuff! >>>> Parts of it sound like a meeting between a mellow mu-Ziq and Asmus >>>> Tietchens and the rest of it is even stranger. Very Industrial, in a >>>> way, but not at all abrasive. > > For me the basic reference is Dub (the style) and rain (the natural > phenomenon). mu-Ziq and Tietchens are, in my eyes, strange comparisons ... > tell me more.

I've only just bought the compilation (yesterday) so I've only heard it once, but earlier yesterday I spent some time sampling several of the BC releases in a store, and got the general idea. I can kinda see the Teitchens comparison.

quoted 8 lines CiM replied:

> CiM replied: > >>> Interesting. Apparently the CD comp is a collection of edited, EQ'd and >>> generally fucked versions of the originals ... > > Not all of the material on the comp is based on Basic Channel vinyl. One > (two?) tracks are the same as the vinyl versions, some are, as CiM says, > generally fucked.

My copy of the comp has a mini-discograpy on the back. Doesn't everyone's? It looks like the first 3 tracks are not from BC01-BC09 at all. Of the remainder, I see the word "edit" next to 6 of them ... (Or should I say "tide"? (-: )

quoted 5 lines James Skilton writes:

> James Skilton writes: > >> I love this comp. Not having any of the originals made it even more special. >> My only other BC-related purchase is MO4/M04. One of these is a fucked up >> scratchy quiet version of the other, similar to the tracks on the comp.

What's "MO4"?

quoted 6 lines Yes. The feel of the CD comp, as has been pointed out earlier (by Dave

> Yes. The feel of the CD comp, as has been pointed out earlier (by Dave > Walker?), is different to the vinyl however. The vinyl tracks are very long > usually, between 12 to 25 minutes, and what makes the Basic Channel vinyl > special is the resulting spaciousness, and what makes them fascinating is how > they don't get boring or, rather annoying (boring/not boring is a distinction > that doesn't really make sense with this kind of music).

This is definitely true. The 12"ers are 33 rpm, and go on for days in a very slow repetitive fashion (at least, the ones I spun in the store did). Very much a "play this in a club/rave to people who eat up good train-track German Trance" kinda thang. Whereas the CD seems to have been "adjusted" for home listening, feel-wise. I have this sneaky feeling that there's a reason for this; hmmn, wot's this exhortation - "buy vinyl!" - at the bottom of the mini-discog sticker???

quoted 11 lines The discog. at Hyperreal, useful as it is, is sketchy.

>>>> The discog. at Hyperreal, useful as it is, is sketchy. >> >> I have a query about this. Does anyone out there have the comp, AND any of >> the originals, and can tell me what the track order is on the disc. I have >> deciphered the barely legible listing on the sleeve, but the listing in the >> discog appears to be reversed from my first guess. Due to the text being in >> mirror image, it is clear how this could be the case - can anyone tell me? >> I have asked Will-E but he doesn't know as he doesn't have the comp, and I >> have tried looking here ... > > The listing in Will-E's comp is indeed reversed.

I guess I do not understand the question? The first track on the CD that matches a name in the mini-discography is "Quadrant Dub I edit", and that's BC06. Does the track order of the actual tracks not match the presumed running order that the mirror-image labelling implies?

quoted 9 lines Multipara has some good Basic Channel info at his WWW site. There's a link

>>> Multipara has some good Basic Channel info at his WWW site. There's a link >>> to it from my home page (URL in .sig) >> >> ... and I can access CiM's page, but the link to multipara's is refusing me >> at the moment. > > I'll fix this as soon as I can access the server again (which is different to > the one I get my mail from). Hopefully next week I'll be back (with updates > again).

Thanks; I just got rejected too :-)

quoted 1 line All of them should still be available.

> All of them should still be available.

I was just in a store yesterday (Beat Non Stop, Hollywood California - not normally known for the best selection ever) that had 7 of the 9 BC releases. There was also another one - shrinkwrapped so I couldn't see the matrix # - which was in the BC bin, but it had a mostly red label with 2 strange characters on it (kinda like letters, but they didn't look like a "B" and a "C", let's put it that way). If this is BC, it was either BC01 or maybe BC03. So if that's the case, this shop has 8 of the 9 (Miles are you listening (-: ).

quoted 3 lines I also plan to include the M (for Maurizio) releases with the discog. I have

> I also plan to include the M (for Maurizio) releases with the discog. I have > #4 (the one James refers to), Ploy, and Domina. I don't have any others > (e.g., #4.5). Any help would be appreciated!

I assume you're talking about M releases and not BC releases here? - Greg

quoted 4 lines My first long term Basic Channel exposure came while wearing headphones

>My first long term Basic Channel exposure came while wearing headphones >in a laundry mat. Talk about your surreal experience. > >'cycles cycles...life runs in cycles'*

quoted 2 lines *name that quote and win a dub of the compilation tape i was listening

>*name that quote and win a dub of the compilation tape i was listening > to while i watched the tumbling tube socks.**

public enemy... something off the first album. i could go look. ah hell, i'll go look. ah, it's timebomb. "cycles cycles, life runs in cycles, new is old no i'm not no psycho." classic! you know where to send the tape, pal!... -- Name: Jon Email: jsd@cyborganic.com Web: http://www.cyborganic.com/People/jsd

quoted 2 lines Listening to this while doing my grocery shopping (an extremely

> Listening to this while doing my grocery shopping (an extremely > surreal experience) also suggested comparisons to some Zoviet France.

My first long term Basic Channel exposure came while wearing headphones in a laundry mat. Talk about your surreal experience. 'cycles cycles...life runs in cycles'* Teep *name that quote and win a dub of the compilation tape i was listening to while i watched the tumbling tube socks.** **in the event that multiple correct answers are given, the winner will be selected by random drawing [as if]

greg earle wrote:

quoted 3 lines I've only just bought the compilation (yesterday) so I've only heard it once,

>I've only just bought the compilation (yesterday) so I've only heard it once, >but earlier yesterday I spent some time sampling several of the BC releases in >a store, and got the general idea. I can kinda see the Teitchens comparison.

yes it seems i've missed tietchens' recent work so that's why i can't see it.

quoted 8 lines James Skilton writes:

>> James Skilton writes: >> >>> I love this comp. Not having any of the originals made it even more >>>special. >>> My only other BC-related purchase is MO4/M04. One of these is a fucked up >>> scratchy quiet version of the other, similar to the tracks on the comp. > >What's "MO4"?

see further below. it seems maurizio ("m" for short) is a kind of side or sister label of basic channel.

quoted 8 lines This is definitely true. The 12"ers are 33 rpm, and go on for days in a very

>This is definitely true. The 12"ers are 33 rpm, and go on for days in a very >slow repetitive fashion (at least, the ones I spun in the store did). Very >much a "play this in a club/rave to people who eat up good train-track German >Trance" kinda thang. Whereas the CD seems to have been "adjusted" for home >listening, feel-wise. > >I have this sneaky feeling that there's a reason for this; hmmn, wot's this >exhortation - "buy vinyl!" - at the bottom of the mini-discog sticker???

as has been pointed out earlier, quite accurately imo, the cd comp is a kind of "taster" for the vinyl. that explains the deliberate distortion and the "buy vinyl" comment on the cd comp. the vinyl works perfectly for home listening, for me at least (the spaciousness colours most bc stuff ambient, despite the prominence of rhythm). i hope their stuff can be recognized as being much better than standard german trance (which i think is *awful*)!

quoted 8 lines The listing in Will-E's comp is indeed reversed.

>> The listing in Will-E's comp is indeed reversed. > >I guess I do not understand the question? The first track on the CD that >matches a name in the mini-discography is "Quadrant Dub I edit", and that's >BC06. > >Does the track order of the actual tracks not match the presumed running order >that the mirror-image labelling implies?

sure, it does, but it looks like the person who did the track list on will-e's discog interpreted the track list on the comp as being mirrored vertically, line by line, instead of horizontally, all together, hence the reversal. bring the comp to a mirror and read the list as it appears, and that's the track list.

quoted 8 lines ... and I can access CiM's page, but the link to multipara's is refusing me

>>> ... and I can access CiM's page, but the link to multipara's is refusing me >>> at the moment. >> >> I'll fix this as soon as I can access the server again (which is different to >> the one I get my mail from). Hopefully next week I'll be back (with updates >> again). > >Thanks; I just got rejected too :-)

i'm sorry but i'm having a number of problems with this at the moment... the whole computer there is down now, and it seems i can't get through to the guy who runs it... ok it's not a very reliable server, but it's for free, so... in short, keep trying, i'll be back :-)

quoted 7 lines I was just in a store yesterday (Beat Non Stop, Hollywood California - not

>I was just in a store yesterday (Beat Non Stop, Hollywood California - not >normally known for the best selection ever) that had 7 of the 9 BC releases. >There was also another one - shrinkwrapped so I couldn't see the matrix # - >which was in the BC bin, but it had a mostly red label with 2 strange >characters on it (kinda like letters, but they didn't look like a "B" and a >"C", let's put it that way). If this is BC, it was either BC01 or maybe BC03. >So if that's the case, this shop has 8 of the 9 (Miles are you listening (-: ).

the strange letters on the red labeled record look like "c 4" and *that's* the m04 release james was talking about. *my* favourites (in case you consider buying any) are bc #9 (phylypstrak ii) and #7 (octagon/octaedre), and also #8 (radiance) and #4 (q 1.1). the (jeff) mills mix on #1 (enforcement) is also a gem. all of the bc's are interesting however.

quoted 5 lines I also plan to include the M (for Maurizio) releases with the discog. I have

>> I also plan to include the M (for Maurizio) releases with the discog. I have >> #4 (the one James refers to), Ploy, and Domina. I don't have any others >> (e.g., #4.5). Any help would be appreciated! > >I assume you're talking about M releases and not BC releases here?

yep. as for the bc releases, i have them all. cheers, p.

Any news about a new release from Basic Channel? NP) I'd hate to say Walt, III _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 4 lines The most recent thing from Basic Channel is their heavenly remix of

> The most recent thing from Basic Channel is their heavenly remix of > Carl Craig's 'The Climax' on the recently re-released & remastered > 'The Climax' 12" on Planet E. It's a fabulous 13+ minute remix but I > think it's a vinyl-only release.

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quoted 5 lines ["Lance @ Inaudible" <lance@inaudible.com>]

>["Lance @ Inaudible" <lance@inaudible.com>] >> The most recent thing from Basic Channel is their heavenly remix of >> Carl Craig's 'The Climax' on the recently re-released & remastered >> 'The Climax' 12" on Planet E. It's a fabulous 13+ minute remix but I >> think it's a vinyl-only release.

quoted 1 line I can't stress how good this is.

>I can't stress how good this is.

Hell yes, you two said it... plus the Carl Craig side ain't bad either. Warning, though, if you're going to play it out: there's a dropout in the middle of the record (Carl Craig side), where it's basically nothing but a minimal organ sequence for about three minutes. No drums. No action. Nuthin' but "bweeeeeeooooooooaaaaaaahhhhhhbweeeee....." for what feels like an eternity. Of course this was one of the records I bought and spun out unheard this summer when I managed to land an impromptu DJ gig in Barcelona. Talk about clearing the floor! Sheesh.... Cheers Phil

quoted 3 lines Anything on the Basic Channel family of labels: >Anything on the Basic Channel family of labels: http://basicchannel.com/ > >Definitely MUST-HAVE.

anywhere i can hear this stuff? the label's site has no clips and neither does boomkat. and i mean in a well-organized, official place...i don't want to go trawling torrent sites for random tracks. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Not offhand. A good deal of it is OOP. BC doesn't have many CD releases, so you're looking for Chain Reaction for the most part. Think 'early Pole', less clicky. DEEP neo-dub, whooshy, airy stuff the ilk of early Monolake, Porter Ricks, etc. It has been nicknamed 'heroin house' for its drugged, distant, big-spaces vibe. Some of the Gas material or DEEPchord would be in the vein, to give you an idea. Hypnotic. Not all of BC is like that - some of it has a clearer link to/expression of Detroit sensibilities.

quoted 18 lines Anything on the Basic Channel family of labels: > > >Anything on the Basic Channel family of labels: http://basicchannel.com/ > > > >Definitely MUST-HAVE. > > anywhere i can hear this stuff? the label's site has no clips and > neither does boomkat. > > and i mean in a well-organized, official place...i don't want to go > trawling torrent sites for random tracks. > > > d. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Basic Channel became such a defining sound for certain parts of NZ ./. thanks to some helpful person importing the tracks .. . I have about three or four records, buried somewhere that I mostly picked up in second hand bins at the time .. I love to spin them on lonely days . .. but the heroin house sound .. yea . never got that name here . I distinctly recall certain parties where the BC sound would be the shift us from daisy chain house tunes into an early morning lost dub sound times when the dance floor entered new space .. I remember going nuts for it, that hollow dusty chamber of tailing reverbs .. sounds wicked on really big PA's outside !! I remember hearing some story about how basics used to sample off the previous vinyl release to make the new release .. an ever inward spiral of sounds .. ?!? Still have the T-shirt ! It is nice to hear to fresh interest in the sound that I believe have laid alot of strong foundations for sounds. Excited recently finding alot of similar sounds on the net labels .. http://www.instabil.org/ stuff by .. Marko Fürstenberg on thinner stuff by .. Lief & Lump on texttone .. for melodic evolutions of the sounds .. .simon

quoted 9 lines Anything on the Basic Channel family of labels: >>>Anything on the Basic Channel family of labels: http://basicchannel.com/ >>> >>>Definitely MUST-HAVE. >> >>anywhere i can hear this stuff? the label's site has no clips and >>neither does boomkat. >> >>and i mean in a well-organized, official place...i don't want to go >>trawling torrent sites for random tracks.

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Hey Simon. Check out Todd Gys, Rod Modell's Vibrasound, the CV, IMax or Brush Park stuff (or the original DEEPchord 12"s if you can find those) and Remote's recent Celestion 12". There's also a 12" out by Triton that has some of those vibes. Also hard to beat in a similar river is Gas' Oktember 12". Love that stuff. One of my favorite memories from the DEMF fest is when the BC crew stepped up on the main stage for a surprise DJ set. The sun was beating down, it was hot and that sound they do and which flows through them just lifted the place to somewhere else. There's a rumor they actually own property near or in Detroit. I know they used to be in the area a whole lot. jeff Simon Kong wrote:

quoted 43 lines Basic Channel became such a defining sound for certain parts of

> Basic Channel became such a defining sound for certain parts of > NZ ./. thanks to some helpful person importing the tracks .. . > > I have about three or four records, buried somewhere that I mostly > picked > up in second hand bins at the time .. I love to spin them on lonely > days . .. > > but the heroin house sound .. yea . never got that name here > > . I distinctly recall certain parties where the BC sound would be > the shift > us from daisy chain house tunes into an early morning lost dub sound > > times when the dance floor entered new space .. > > I remember going nuts for it, that hollow dusty chamber of tailing > reverbs .. sounds wicked on really big PA's outside !! > > I remember hearing some story about how basics used to sample off > the previous vinyl release to make the new release .. an ever inward > spiral > of sounds .. ?!? > > Still have the T-shirt ! > > It is nice to hear to fresh interest in the sound that I believe > have laid alot of > strong foundations for sounds. > > > Excited recently finding alot of similar sounds on the net labels .. > > http://www.instabil.org/ > > stuff by .. Marko Fürstenberg on thinner > > stuff by .. Lief & Lump on texttone .. for melodic evolutions of > the sounds .. > > > .simon >

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Second Jeff on all the recommendations: Gys' 'Art d'Echo' (Component) was a very nice taking up of the BC baton. Likewise a lot of Modell's DEEPchord stuff could stand up to being played next to BC without suffering the comparison. And yep, that Remote 12" has a couple of fine tracks on it in a similar vein. Some of Yagya's stuff on "Rhythm of Snow' (Force Inc) touches on a similar sound palette. Have to say that my absolute favourite of what got waggishly tagged 'Heroin House' was Fluxion's 'Vibrant Forms' on CR. Kostas Soublis went on to start his own label (Vibrant), which seems to have become moribund after only 6 or 7 releases, and, alas, nothing further has been heard from Fluxion HQ. Shame... alan --On 05 December 2005 16:06 -0500 theREALmxyzptlk <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net> wrote:

quoted 70 lines Hey Simon.

> Hey Simon. > Check out Todd Gys, Rod Modell's Vibrasound, the CV, IMax or Brush Park > stuff (or the original DEEPchord 12"s if you can find those) and > Remote's recent Celestion 12". > There's also a 12" out by Triton that has some of those vibes. > Also hard to beat in a similar river is Gas' Oktember 12". > Love that stuff. One of my favorite memories from the DEMF fest is when > the BC crew stepped up on the main stage for a surprise DJ set. The sun > was beating down, it was hot and that sound they do and which flows > through them just lifted the place to somewhere else. > There's a rumor they actually own property near or in Detroit. I know > they used to be in the area a whole lot. > > > jeff > > > > Simon Kong wrote: > >> Basic Channel became such a defining sound for certain parts of >> NZ ./. thanks to some helpful person importing the tracks .. . >> >> I have about three or four records, buried somewhere that I mostly >> picked >> up in second hand bins at the time .. I love to spin them on lonely >> days . .. >> >> but the heroin house sound .. yea . never got that name here >> >> . I distinctly recall certain parties where the BC sound would be >> the shift >> us from daisy chain house tunes into an early morning lost dub sound >> >> times when the dance floor entered new space .. >> >> I remember going nuts for it, that hollow dusty chamber of tailing >> reverbs .. sounds wicked on really big PA's outside !! >> >> I remember hearing some story about how basics used to sample off >> the previous vinyl release to make the new release .. an ever inward >> spiral >> of sounds .. ?!? >> >> Still have the T-shirt ! >> >> It is nice to hear to fresh interest in the sound that I believe >> have laid alot of >> strong foundations for sounds. >> >> >> Excited recently finding alot of similar sounds on the net labels .. >> >> http://www.instabil.org/ >> >> stuff by .. Marko Fürstenberg on thinner >> >> stuff by .. Lief & Lump on texttone .. for melodic evolutions of >> the sounds .. >> >> >> .simon >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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quoted 5 lines Have to say that my absolute favourite of what got waggishly tagged 'Heroin

> Have to say that my absolute favourite of what got waggishly tagged 'Heroin > House' was Fluxion's 'Vibrant Forms' on CR. Kostas Soublis went on to start > his own label (Vibrant), which seems to have become moribund after only 6 > or 7 releases, and, alas, nothing further has been heard from Fluxion HQ. > Shame...

Don't forget Vibrant Forms II - the double disc follow-up was further bliss. His third, Spaces, on Vibrant is also well worth seeking out. Unfortunately I just couldn't get with his outing as Silex, seemed much too similar to early Autechre. I keep returning to it in hopes that I'll get it eventually. I've been in sporadic touch with Mr Soublis, he vows he has a 12 and an album in the works, promised for the not too distant, though my face is beginning to be tinged with blue and I'll have to take a breath soon. Cheers, C. NP Bim Sherman's 100 Years, unremastered final track on a best-of compilation - awash with crackles and dust, like a stepping stone between 70s Jamaica and 90s Berlin. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Mr. Doublis was speaking about his new album comming soon a year before. But we don't have nothing out,yet. As we haven't got yagya's new album out on his label for more than 1,5 years, too. He seems to be more busy with promises than with work on his label's releases. Walkman www.sutemos.net

quoted 34 lines Have to say that my absolute favourite of what got waggishly tagged

>> Have to say that my absolute favourite of what got waggishly tagged >> 'Heroin >> House' was Fluxion's 'Vibrant Forms' on CR. Kostas Soublis went on to >> start >> his own label (Vibrant), which seems to have become moribund after only >> 6 >> or 7 releases, and, alas, nothing further has been heard from Fluxion >> HQ. >> Shame... > Don't forget Vibrant Forms II - the double disc follow-up was further > bliss. > His third, Spaces, on Vibrant is also well worth seeking out. > Unfortunately > I just couldn't get with his outing as Silex, seemed much too similar to > early Autechre. I keep returning to it in hopes that I'll get it > eventually. > > I've been in sporadic touch with Mr Soublis, he vows he has a 12 and an > album in the works, promised for the not too distant, though my face is > beginning to be tinged with blue and I'll have to take a breath soon. > > Cheers, C. > > NP Bim Sherman's 100 Years, unremastered final track on a best-of > compilation - awash with crackles and dust, like a stepping stone between > 70s Jamaica and 90s Berlin. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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I heard this too. Soublis has been sitting on the Yagya album for over a year and attempts by the artist to get him to get his finger out and release it have been frustrated. (with apologies for uncomfortable mixing of metaphors) The Vibrant website refers to 'new releases out now', the most recent of which is Pridon 'Health Food Scroll' - way back at the beginning of the year. Looks like Fluxion hasn't lost his knack with delay ;-) alan --On 06 December 2005 10:40 +0200 Walkman <walkman@sutemos.net> wrote:

quoted 50 lines Mr. Doublis was speaking about his new album comming soon a year before.

> Mr. Doublis was speaking about his new album comming soon a year before. > But we don't have nothing out,yet. As we haven't got yagya's new album out > on his label for more than 1,5 years, too. > > He seems to be more busy with promises than with work on his label's > releases. > > Walkman > www.sutemos.net > >>> Have to say that my absolute favourite of what got waggishly tagged >>> 'Heroin >>> House' was Fluxion's 'Vibrant Forms' on CR. Kostas Soublis went on to >>> start >>> his own label (Vibrant), which seems to have become moribund after only >>> 6 >>> or 7 releases, and, alas, nothing further has been heard from Fluxion >>> HQ. >>> Shame... >> Don't forget Vibrant Forms II - the double disc follow-up was further >> bliss. >> His third, Spaces, on Vibrant is also well worth seeking out. >> Unfortunately >> I just couldn't get with his outing as Silex, seemed much too similar to >> early Autechre. I keep returning to it in hopes that I'll get it >> eventually. >> >> I've been in sporadic touch with Mr Soublis, he vows he has a 12 and an >> album in the works, promised for the not too distant, though my face is >> beginning to be tinged with blue and I'll have to take a breath soon. >> >> Cheers, C. >> >> NP Bim Sherman's 100 Years, unremastered final track on a best-of >> compilation - awash with crackles and dust, like a stepping stone between >> 70s Jamaica and 90s Berlin. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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quoted 2 lines Rod Modell's Vibrasound, the CV, IMax or Brush Park

> Rod Modell's Vibrasound, the CV, IMax or Brush Park > stuff (or the original DEEPchord 12"s if you can find those)

I'll second the recommendation on Rod Modell. FWIW, the Italian label Silentes (http://www.silentes.net) released a couple Rod Modell items -- one was a remix of Michael Mantra's Sonic Alter, another was a compilation of Deep Chord tracks, and the third was a teamup with Kevin Hanton called Illuminati Audio Science. Rod Modell and Michael Mantra also released Sonic Continuum on Hypnos, and the limited-edition (500 pressing) Radio Fore. The Deepchord remix of Michael Mantra's Sonic Alter also came out as a limited-edition (120 pressing) DVD-R that "provides a video gradient 90 degrees to the audio gradient that affects an atonement of the hemispheres". Mr. Modell also has two releases out on the excellent Echocord label (another great dubby techno label): Echocord 06 - the Kettle Point EP and Echocord 09 - the Sacred Geometry EP. If you're looking for Deep Chord vinyl, only 07 - 14 & 16 were released. 01 - 06 & 15 are both extremely hard-to-find CD releases. I was lucky enough to score all the Deep Chord vinyl through an Ebay auction a few months back. The CV and IMAX releases on Octal were the only two releases on that label. The label owner was selling off back copies on Ebay a couple weeks ago. If you want a good introduction to the Basic Channel label, the Scion - Arrange and Process Basic Channel Tracks (Tresor 200) is excellent. The Burial Mix reissues on Asphodel (Rhythm & Sound: versions, w/the artists) are great introductions to their work under that alias, and not too difficult to find. I also see the Rhythm & Sound, Main Street and Maurizio CDs on Ebay fairly frequently, and the BC vinyl itself has never seemed hard to find (although honestly I stopped looking after I got the clear marble reissues last year). The one thing I remember about Basic Channel was that it seemed almost impossible to find a non-warped copy of the records when they first came out. It was ridiculous. Finally, I definitely second the recommendation on the Thinner netlabel. Great, great stuff. Sorry to go on and on, but I've spent the better part of the last two years tracking down this stuff. cheers w PS Trivia moment: Listen to Excursions In Ambience - The Second Orbit. Track two, Schizophrenia, is by Thomas Fehlmann and Mauritz Von Oswald ! Additionally, Maurizio contributes an Orb remix on track four. I listened to that CD for years without making the connection. I listen to them now, and can definitely hear the protoplasmic sounds that would evolve into Basic Channel, et al. down the line. -- wallace winfrey wally@booyaka.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

You know, I read somewhere that all the basic channel, maurizio, rhythm&sound and a lot of chain reaction records are all produced by this guy Moritz Von Oswald (r&s produced with mark ernestus). This guy like single-handedly forged this kind of sound. I also read that the guy has never done an interview and that there are no known published photographs of him. Is this all legend or fact? Does anybody know a lot about this stuff? I find it really intriguing. From Dusted Magazine: " Mark and Moritz remain almost anonymous in their creations, never including their names on recordings and refusing any interview requests. This apparent pretension, however, is more purist than pompous. Basic Channel, or Rhythm & Sound, however you choose to identify the duo, genuinely feel their music, a minimalist blend of dub and atmos, is more important than the knobs, faders, and design that brought it to be. There is no inherent need to look behind the curtain; the music's coming out of the speakers."

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> -----Original Message----- > From: wallace winfrey [mailto:wally@booyaka.com] > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:33 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] basic channel > > On 12/5/2005 2:06 PM, theREALmxyzptlk wrote:: > > Rod Modell's Vibrasound, the CV, IMax or Brush Park > > stuff (or the original DEEPchord 12"s if you can find those) > > I'll second the recommendation on Rod Modell. FWIW, the Italian label > Silentes > (http://www.silentes.net) released a couple Rod Modell items -- one was a > remix > of Michael Mantra's Sonic Alter, another was a compilation of Deep Chord > tracks, > and the third was a teamup with Kevin Hanton called Illuminati Audio > Science. > Rod Modell and Michael Mantra also released Sonic Continuum on Hypnos, and > the > limited-edition (500 pressing) Radio Fore. > > The Deepchord remix of Michael Mantra's Sonic Alter also came out as a > limited-edition (120 pressing) DVD-R that "provides a video gradient 90 > degrees > to the audio gradient that affects an atonement of the hemispheres". > > Mr. Modell also has two releases out on the excellent Echocord label > (another > great dubby techno label): Echocord 06 - the Kettle Point EP and Echocord > 09 - > the Sacred Geometry EP. > > If you're looking for Deep Chord vinyl, only 07 - 14 & 16 were released. > 01 - 06 > & 15 are both extremely hard-to-find CD releases. I was lucky enough to > score > all the Deep Chord vinyl through an Ebay auction a few months back. > > The CV and IMAX releases on Octal were the only two releases on that > label. The > label owner was selling off back copies on Ebay a couple weeks ago. > > If you want a good introduction to the Basic Channel label, the Scion - > Arrange > and Process Basic Channel Tracks (Tresor 200) is excellent. > > The Burial Mix reissues on Asphodel (Rhythm & Sound: versions, w/the > artists) > are great introductions to their work under that alias, and not too > difficult to > find. I also see the Rhythm & Sound, Main Street and Maurizio CDs on Ebay > fairly > frequently, and the BC vinyl itself has never seemed hard to find > (although > honestly I stopped looking after I got the clear marble reissues last > year). The > one thing I remember about Basic Channel was that it seemed almost > impossible to > find a non-warped copy of the records when they first came out. It was > ridiculous. > > Finally, I definitely second the recommendation on the Thinner netlabel. > Great, > great stuff. > > Sorry to go on and on, but I've spent the better part of the last two > years > tracking down this stuff. > > cheers > > w > > PS Trivia moment: Listen to Excursions In Ambience - The Second Orbit. > Track > two, Schizophrenia, is by Thomas Fehlmann and Mauritz Von Oswald ! > Additionally, > Maurizio contributes an Orb remix on track four. I listened to that CD for > years > without making the connection. I listen to them now, and can definitely > hear > the protoplasmic sounds that would evolve into Basic Channel, et al. down > the line. > > -- > wallace winfrey > wally@booyaka.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 16 lines You know, I read somewhere that all the basic channel, maurizio,

> You know, I read somewhere that all the basic channel, maurizio, > rhythm&sound and a lot of chain reaction records are all produced by this > guy Moritz Von Oswald (r&s produced with mark ernestus). This guy like > single-handedly forged this kind of sound. I also read that the guy has > never done an interview and that there are no known published photographs of > him. Is this all legend or fact? Does anybody know a lot about this stuff? I > find it really intriguing. > > From Dusted Magazine: " Mark and Moritz remain almost anonymous in their > creations, never including their names on recordings and refusing any > interview requests. This apparent pretension, however, is more purist than > pompous. Basic Channel, or Rhythm & Sound, however you choose to identify > the duo, genuinely feel their music, a minimalist blend of dub and atmos, is > more important than the knobs, faders, and design that brought it to be. > There is no inherent need to look behind the curtain; the music's coming out > of the speakers."

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Small point regarding background... as far as I'm aware, only the Maurizio releases were the work of a solo von Oswald. Basic Channel and R&S both involved Ernestus, and the Chain Reaction releases were produced by the other artists whose names those releases bear; the likes of Porter Ricks, Monolake, Vladislav Delay, Fluxion, Scion, Ridis, Vainqueur, Hallucinator, to name but several. But yes, von Oswald was clearly a sonic pioneer, and a lot of subsequent dub-tech projects betray a debt to those Maurizio 'M' tracks. alan --On 07 December 2005 11:03 -0800 dean genome <deanome@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 116 lines You know, I read somewhere that all the basic channel, maurizio,

> You know, I read somewhere that all the basic channel, maurizio, > rhythm&sound and a lot of chain reaction records are all produced by this > guy Moritz Von Oswald (r&s produced with mark ernestus). This guy like > single-handedly forged this kind of sound. I also read that the guy has > never done an interview and that there are no known published photographs > of him. Is this all legend or fact? Does anybody know a lot about this > stuff? I find it really intriguing. > > From Dusted Magazine: " Mark and Moritz remain almost anonymous in their > creations, never including their names on recordings and refusing any > interview requests. This apparent pretension, however, is more purist than > pompous. Basic Channel, or Rhythm & Sound, however you choose to identify > the duo, genuinely feel their music, a minimalist blend of dub and atmos, > is more important than the knobs, faders, and design that brought it to > be. There is no inherent need to look behind the curtain; the music's > coming out of the speakers." > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wallace winfrey [mailto:wally@booyaka.com] >> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:33 PM >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [idm] basic channel >> >> On 12/5/2005 2:06 PM, theREALmxyzptlk wrote:: >> > Rod Modell's Vibrasound, the CV, IMax or Brush Park >> > stuff (or the original DEEPchord 12"s if you can find those) >> >> I'll second the recommendation on Rod Modell. FWIW, the Italian label >> Silentes >> (http://www.silentes.net) released a couple Rod Modell items -- one was a >> remix >> of Michael Mantra's Sonic Alter, another was a compilation of Deep Chord >> tracks, >> and the third was a teamup with Kevin Hanton called Illuminati Audio >> Science. >> Rod Modell and Michael Mantra also released Sonic Continuum on Hypnos, >> and the >> limited-edition (500 pressing) Radio Fore. >> >> The Deepchord remix of Michael Mantra's Sonic Alter also came out as a >> limited-edition (120 pressing) DVD-R that "provides a video gradient 90 >> degrees >> to the audio gradient that affects an atonement of the hemispheres". >> >> Mr. Modell also has two releases out on the excellent Echocord label >> (another >> great dubby techno label): Echocord 06 - the Kettle Point EP and Echocord >> 09 - >> the Sacred Geometry EP. >> >> If you're looking for Deep Chord vinyl, only 07 - 14 & 16 were released. >> 01 - 06 >> & 15 are both extremely hard-to-find CD releases. I was lucky enough to >> score >> all the Deep Chord vinyl through an Ebay auction a few months back. >> >> The CV and IMAX releases on Octal were the only two releases on that >> label. The >> label owner was selling off back copies on Ebay a couple weeks ago. >> >> If you want a good introduction to the Basic Channel label, the Scion - >> Arrange >> and Process Basic Channel Tracks (Tresor 200) is excellent. >> >> The Burial Mix reissues on Asphodel (Rhythm & Sound: versions, w/the >> artists) >> are great introductions to their work under that alias, and not too >> difficult to >> find. I also see the Rhythm & Sound, Main Street and Maurizio CDs on Ebay >> fairly >> frequently, and the BC vinyl itself has never seemed hard to find >> (although >> honestly I stopped looking after I got the clear marble reissues last >> year). The >> one thing I remember about Basic Channel was that it seemed almost >> impossible to >> find a non-warped copy of the records when they first came out. It was >> ridiculous. >> >> Finally, I definitely second the recommendation on the Thinner netlabel. >> Great, >> great stuff. >> >> Sorry to go on and on, but I've spent the better part of the last two >> years >> tracking down this stuff. >> >> cheers >> >> w >> >> PS Trivia moment: Listen to Excursions In Ambience - The Second Orbit. >> Track >> two, Schizophrenia, is by Thomas Fehlmann and Mauritz Von Oswald ! >> Additionally, >> Maurizio contributes an Orb remix on track four. I listened to that CD >> for years >> without making the connection. I listen to them now, and can definitely >> hear >> the protoplasmic sounds that would evolve into Basic Channel, et al. down >> the line. >> >> -- >> wallace winfrey >> wally@booyaka.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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And just a pinch of history...von Oswald, Thomas Fehlmann and Holger Hiller all came from the seminal early 80s German outfit, Palais Schaumberg. Most here know the first 2 names, but not Hiller. Holger did some amazing experimental electronic/industrial stype stuff just after PA disbanded which is well worth tracking down. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Holger+Hiller jeff (more than just an eBay whore.... :-) Alan Lockett wrote:

quoted 19 lines Small point regarding background... as far as I'm aware, only the

> > Small point regarding background... as far as I'm aware, only the > Maurizio releases were the work of a solo von Oswald. Basic Channel > and R&S both involved Ernestus, and the Chain Reaction releases were > produced by the other artists whose names those releases bear; the > likes of Porter Ricks, Monolake, Vladislav Delay, Fluxion, Scion, > Ridis, Vainqueur, Hallucinator, to name but several. > But yes, von Oswald was clearly a sonic pioneer, and a lot of > subsequent dub-tech projects betray a debt to those Maurizio 'M' tracks. > > alan > > --On 07 December 2005 11:03 -0800 dean genome <deanome@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You know, I read somewhere that all the basic channel, maurizio, >> rhythm&sound and a lot of chain reaction records are all produced by >> this >> guy Moritz Von Oswald (r&s produced with mark ernestus).... >

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On Dec 7, 2005, at 2:03 PM, dean genome wrote:

quoted 11 lines You know, I read somewhere that all the basic channel, maurizio,

> You know, I read somewhere that all the basic channel, maurizio, > rhythm&sound and a lot of chain reaction records are all produced > by this > guy Moritz Von Oswald (r&s produced with mark ernestus). This guy like > single-handedly forged this kind of sound. I also read that the guy > has > never done an interview and that there are no known published > photographs of > him. Is this all legend or fact? Does anybody know a lot about this > stuff? I > find it really intriguing.

Ah, mythbuilding. The first time I ever heard BC they were doing an interview on BMG's radio show in Ann Arbor. The funny thing is that I'd run into them earlier that evening when they were looking for the studio (though I had no idea who they were at that point -- just a couple of lost German guys trying to find a tiny radio studio in Ann Arbor...) -d.w. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Hey man, it's why I asked. They are definitely some underground dudes though. Thanks to the other guys for dropping knowledge about the history!

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> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Walker [mailto:marmoset@freeke.org] > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:37 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] basic channel > > On Dec 7, 2005, at 2:03 PM, dean genome wrote: > > > You know, I read somewhere that all the basic channel, maurizio, > > rhythm&sound and a lot of chain reaction records are all produced > > by this > > guy Moritz Von Oswald (r&s produced with mark ernestus). This guy like > > single-handedly forged this kind of sound. I also read that the guy > > has > > never done an interview and that there are no known published > > photographs of > > him. Is this all legend or fact? Does anybody know a lot about this > > stuff? I > > find it really intriguing. > > Ah, mythbuilding. > > The first time I ever heard BC they were doing an interview on BMG's > radio show in Ann Arbor. The funny thing is that I'd run into them > earlier that evening when they were looking for the studio (though I > had no idea who they were at that point -- just a couple of lost German > guys trying to find a tiny radio studio in Ann Arbor...) > > -d.w. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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http://www.thewire.co.uk/archive/interviews/basic_channel.html dean genome <deanome@gmail.com> wrote: You know, I read somewhere that all the basic channel, maurizio, rhythm&sound and a lot of chain reaction records are all produced by this guy Moritz Von Oswald (r&s produced with mark ernestus). This guy like single-handedly forged this kind of sound. I also read that the guy has never done an interview and that there are no known published photographs of him. Is this all legend or fact? Does anybody know a lot about this stuff? I find it really intriguing. From Dusted Magazine: " Mark and Moritz remain almost anonymous in their creations, never including their names on recordings and refusing any interview requests. This apparent pretension, however, is more purist than pompous. Basic Channel, or Rhythm & Sound, however you choose to identify the duo, genuinely feel their music, a minimalist blend of dub and atmos, is more important than the knobs, faders, and design that brought it to be. There is no inherent need to look behind the curtain; the music's coming out of the speakers."

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> -----Original Message----- > From: wallace winfrey [mailto:wally@booyaka.com] > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 4:33 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] basic channel > > On 12/5/2005 2:06 PM, theREALmxyzptlk wrote:: > > Rod Modell's Vibrasound, the CV, IMax or Brush Park > > stuff (or the original DEEPchord 12"s if you can find those) > > I'll second the recommendation on Rod Modell. FWIW, the Italian label > Silentes > (http://www.silentes.net) released a couple Rod Modell items -- one was a > remix > of Michael Mantra's Sonic Alter, another was a compilation of Deep Chord > tracks, > and the third was a teamup with Kevin Hanton called Illuminati Audio > Science. > Rod Modell and Michael Mantra also released Sonic Continuum on Hypnos, and > the > limited-edition (500 pressing) Radio Fore. > > The Deepchord remix of Michael Mantra's Sonic Alter also came out as a > limited-edition (120 pressing) DVD-R that "provides a video gradient 90 > degrees > to the audio gradient that affects an atonement of the hemispheres". > > Mr. Modell also has two releases out on the excellent Echocord label > (another > great dubby techno label): Echocord 06 - the Kettle Point EP and Echocord > 09 - > the Sacred Geometry EP. > > If you're looking for Deep Chord vinyl, only 07 - 14 & 16 were released. > 01 - 06 > & 15 are both extremely hard-to-find CD releases. I was lucky enough to > score > all the Deep Chord vinyl through an Ebay auction a few months back. > > The CV and IMAX releases on Octal were the only two releases on that > label. The > label owner was selling off back copies on Ebay a couple weeks ago. > > If you want a good introduction to the Basic Channel label, the Scion - > Arrange > and Process Basic Channel Tracks (Tresor 200) is excellent. > > The Burial Mix reissues on Asphodel (Rhythm & Sound: versions, w/the > artists) > are great introductions to their work under that alias, and not too > difficult to > find. I also see the Rhythm & Sound, Main Street and Maurizio CDs on Ebay > fairly > frequently, and the BC vinyl itself has never seemed hard to find > (although > honestly I stopped looking after I got the clear marble reissues last > year). The > one thing I remember about Basic Channel was that it seemed almost > impossible to > find a non-warped copy of the records when they first came out. It was > ridiculous. > > Finally, I definitely second the recommendation on the Thinner netlabel. > Great, > great stuff. > > Sorry to go on and on, but I've spent the better part of the last two > years > tracking down this stuff. > > cheers > > w > > PS Trivia moment: Listen to Excursions In Ambience - The Second Orbit. > Track > two, Schizophrenia, is by Thomas Fehlmann and Mauritz Von Oswald ! > Additionally, > Maurizio contributes an Orb remix on track four. I listened to that CD for > years > without making the connection. I listen to them now, and can definitely > hear > the protoplasmic sounds that would evolve into Basic Channel, et al. down > the line. > > -- > wallace winfrey > wally@booyaka.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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> Excited recently finding alot of similar sounds on the net labels .. > > http://www.instabil.org/ > > stuff by .. Marko Fürstenberg on thinner > > stuff by .. Lief & Lump on texttone .. for melodic evolutions of the sounds

Thanks for these mentions. Thinner has been rocking my world lately. The "Crossways" 3 hr compilation is a great starting point into their deep dubby ways. http://www.archive.org/audio/collection.php?collection=thinner -- - Eric Sorenson - N37 17.255 W121 55.738 - http://eric.explosive.net - - Personal colo with a professional touch - http://www.explosive.net -