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2000-07-04 23:37Eyal Dechter [idm] Yamaha dx7
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2000-07-05 01:57Greg Malcolm Re: [idm] Yamaha dx7
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2000-07-05 16:21Andrew Schrock Re: [idm] Yamaha dx7
└─ 2000-07-05 16:31Josh Davison Re: [idm] Yamaha dx7
└─ 2000-07-05 18:45Yonnie Lui Re: [idm] Yamaha dx7
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2000-07-05 20:52steve Re: [idm] Yamaha dx7
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2000-07-04 23:37Eyal DechterHey. I'm going to buy a synthesizer. I talked with some people and they told me that the y
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Hey. I'm going to buy a synthesizer. I talked with some people and they told me that the yamaha dx7 is a reliable and good instrument. Does anyone have this synth and if so could you please send me your opinions, pros and cons, of the synth to help me decide if to buy it. Thank You Eyal --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-05 01:25Josh Davisonthey make awesome midi controllers if you like the keyboard action as much as i do fm is w
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they make awesome midi controllers if you like the keyboard action as much as i do fm is wicked but 'taint easy ... the m is for multiplication and we all know math is hard ... you can do really great "evolving" shit with the dx7 brian eno is a bad ass dx7 programmer trent reznor has destroyed more dx7s than any other living human. shithead. josh -- String Theory : July 15 Lula Cafe : Ch.Ill. http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Eyal Dechter wrote:
quoted 13 lines Hey. I'm going to buy a synthesizer. I talked with some people and they> Hey. I'm going to buy a synthesizer. I talked with some people and they > told me that the yamaha dx7 is a reliable and good instrument. Does anyone > have this synth and if so could you please send me your opinions, pros and > cons, of the synth to help me decide if to buy it. Thank You > > Eyal > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-07-05 00:47componentThe dx7 was one of the first widely available digital synths. It uses FM synthesis which c
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The dx7 was one of the first widely available digital synths. It uses FM synthesis which can be a bit tricky to figure out if you are new to synthesis. You can get some decent sounds out of the dx7 but unless your getting one really cheap you can get alot more bang for the buck elsewhere. Rob component records www.mindstorm.com/component ----- Original Message ----- From: Eyal Dechter <eyal@mediaone.net> To: Idm@Hyperreal. Org <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 7:37 PM Subject: [idm] Yamaha dx7
quoted 2 lines Hey. I'm going to buy a synthesizer. I talked with some people and they> Hey. I'm going to buy a synthesizer. I talked with some people and they > told me that the yamaha dx7 is a reliable and good instrument. Does
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quoted 10 lines have this synth and if so could you please send me your opinions, pros and> have this synth and if so could you please send me your opinions, pros and > cons, of the synth to help me decide if to buy it. Thank You > > Eyal > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-07-05 01:16Loptimiste@aol.comIn a message dated 7/4/00 4:38:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eyal@mediaone.net writes: << H
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In a message dated 7/4/00 4:38:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eyal@mediaone.net writes: << Hey. I'm going to buy a synthesizer. I talked with some people and they told me that the yamaha dx7 is a reliable and good instrument. Does anyone have this synth and if so could you please send me your opinions, pros and cons, of the synth to help me decide if to buy it. Thank You >> You can get some nifty sounds out of it.. Of course, you'll probably think it's crap when you first turn it on and play it.. You'll be like "what the fuck are all these crappy ass electric pianos and bell sounds???". or maybe not. it's a GREAT instrument, but not one I suggest starting out on. And.. Are you planning on making multiple parts? Or playing keys in a band? It's based on yamaha's Frequency Modulation synthesis, which is a bit confusing with it's operators and carriers and modulators.. Easy conceptually.. But harder to get the sounds you want. Need more info if i was to make a decision on whether or not this is the right synth for you... Jrade --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-05 01:57Greg Malcolmquasimidi sirius, and access virus...both are come highly recommended. greg >From: Loptimi
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quasimidi sirius, and access virus...both are come highly recommended. greg
quoted 37 lines From: Loptimiste@aol.com>From: Loptimiste@aol.com >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] Yamaha dx7 >Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:16:31 EDT > >In a message dated 7/4/00 4:38:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >eyal@mediaone.net >writes: > ><< Hey. I'm going to buy a synthesizer. I talked with some people and >they > told me that the yamaha dx7 is a reliable and good instrument. Does >anyone > have this synth and if so could you please send me your opinions, pros >and > cons, of the synth to help me decide if to buy it. Thank You >> > > >You can get some nifty sounds out of it.. Of course, you'll probably think >it's crap when you first turn it on and play it.. You'll be like "what the >fuck are all these crappy ass electric pianos and bell sounds???". or >maybe >not. it's a GREAT instrument, but not one I suggest starting out on. >And.. >Are you planning on making multiple parts? Or playing keys in a band? >It's >based on yamaha's Frequency Modulation synthesis, which is a bit confusing >with it's operators and carriers and modulators.. Easy conceptually.. But >harder to get the sounds you want. Need more info if i was to make a >decision on whether or not this is the right synth for you... > >Jrade > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-07-05 05:01Daniel KearleyAwesome MIDI controllers, except dont they have a max velocity output? Of around 100 or so
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Awesome MIDI controllers, except dont they have a max velocity output? Of around 100 or something? You can pound the keys as hard as you want, but it wont output above a certain point... d.kearley@home.com www.mp3.com/kearley Feel free to email me with comments! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Davison" <yoshi@enteract.com> To: "Eyal Dechter" <eyal@mediaone.net> Cc: "Idm@Hyperreal. Org" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Yamaha dx7
quoted 22 lines they make awesome midi controllers if you like the keyboard action as much> they make awesome midi controllers if you like the keyboard action as much > as i do > > fm is wicked but 'taint easy ... the m is for multiplication and we all > know math is hard ... you can do really great "evolving" shit with the dx7 > > brian eno is a bad ass dx7 programmer > > trent reznor has destroyed more dx7s than any other living human. > shithead. > > josh > > > -- > String Theory : July 15 Lula Cafe : Ch.Ill. > http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi > > > On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Eyal Dechter wrote: > > > Hey. I'm going to buy a synthesizer. I talked with some people and
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quoted 1 line told me that the yamaha dx7 is a reliable and good instrument. Does> > told me that the yamaha dx7 is a reliable and good instrument. Does
anyone
quoted 1 line have this synth and if so could you please send me your opinions, pros> > have this synth and if so could you please send me your opinions, pros
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quoted 17 lines cons, of the synth to help me decide if to buy it. Thank You> > cons, of the synth to help me decide if to buy it. Thank You > > > > Eyal > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-07-05 16:21Andrew Schrock> fm is wicked but 'taint easy ... the m is for multiplication and we all > know math is h
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quoted 3 lines fm is wicked but 'taint easy ... the m is for multiplication and we all> fm is wicked but 'taint easy ... the m is for multiplication and we all > know math is hard ... you can do really great "evolving" shit with the > dx7
FM = Frequency Modulation. I wouldn't say it, or any FM synth, is great for evolving pads. That's more the league of a kawai k5000 or oberheim matrix-1000. And forget it for any sort of useful bass. (except of course, sinewaves and the infamous "latelybass") It's good for plucked sounds, like harpsichords, electric pianos, and weird, extremely raw digital FX. Also, I wouldn't want somebody picking up the DX-7 thinking it's easy to learn :/
quoted 1 line brian eno is a bad ass dx7 programmer> brian eno is a bad ass dx7 programmer
True.
quoted 1 line trent reznor has destroyed more dx7s than any other living human.> trent reznor has destroyed more dx7s than any other living human.
Also very true. I'm not sure why these rawk stars pick on DX-7's to destroy, or pose with while playing. I think I saw crystal method banging on one while it wasn't plugged in to anything. Andrew -- -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-05 16:31Josh Davisondoh, modulation. i knew that ... modulation means that the frequencies are being multiplie
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doh, modulation. i knew that ... modulation means that the frequencies are being multiplied against eachother ... my point was it is a harder synth to understand than say a VCO->VCF->VCA style subtractive synth. Wait. Subtraction is math too. Shit. i think the reasong DX7's get whacked on so much is because 1) there's tons of 'em out there and 2) they aren't as in vogue as analogue synths so they're cheaper to replace it's still lame to smash any instrument besides maybe a french horn though. -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Andrew Schrock wrote:
quoted 37 lines fm is wicked but 'taint easy ... the m is for multiplication and we all> > fm is wicked but 'taint easy ... the m is for multiplication and we all > > know math is hard ... you can do really great "evolving" shit with the > > dx7 > > FM = Frequency Modulation. > > I wouldn't say it, or any FM synth, is great for evolving pads. That's > more the league of a kawai k5000 or oberheim matrix-1000. And forget it > for any sort of useful bass. (except of course, sinewaves and the infamous > "latelybass") It's good for plucked sounds, like harpsichords, electric > pianos, and weird, extremely raw digital FX. > > Also, I wouldn't want somebody picking up the DX-7 thinking it's easy to > learn :/ > > > brian eno is a bad ass dx7 programmer > > True. > > > trent reznor has destroyed more dx7s than any other living human. > > Also very true. I'm not sure why these rawk stars pick on DX-7's to > destroy, or pose with while playing. I think I saw crystal method banging > on one while it wasn't plugged in to anything. > > Andrew > > -- > -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-07-05 18:45Yonnie Lui>it's still lame to smash any instrument besides maybe a french horn >though. ...or Paul A
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quoted 2 lines it's still lame to smash any instrument besides maybe a french horn>it's still lame to smash any instrument besides maybe a french horn >though.
...or Paul Allen smashing a Dale Chihuly glass guitar a la Hendrix style when he opened the EMP Museum in seattle ;-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-05 17:56David Moore>Awesome MIDI controllers, except dont they have a max velocity output? Of >around 100 or
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quoted 7 lines Awesome MIDI controllers, except dont they have a max velocity output? Of>Awesome MIDI controllers, except dont they have a max velocity output? Of >around 100 or something? >You can pound the keys as hard as you want, but it wont output above a >certain point... > >d.kearley@home.com > >
As with all early generation midi devices, the highst velocity it will send is 99, later midi was upgraded to go higher than 99 (to 127), which makes more sense when sending binary data. I guess 11 wsn't high enough... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-05 20:52stevei think the crystal method does that with all their gear...bang on it when it isn't even p
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i think the crystal method does that with all their gear...bang on it when it isn't even plugged in. Waldorf microwave is good for evolving pads/drones etc and lots lots more.... also, I've heard some cool basses come out of dx-7s not like an analog synththough...and of course i've read about brian eno being able to make a dx-7 sound like just about anything..uncluding nasty squelchy bass (a al analog) but i'd never buy one. they just aren't any fun....to me ----------
quoted 5 lines From: Andrew Schrock <aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu>>From: Andrew Schrock <aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu> >To: "Idm@Hyperreal. Org" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] Yamaha dx7 >Date: Wed, Jul 5, 2000, 8:21 AM >
quoted 37 lines fm is wicked but 'taint easy ... the m is for multiplication and we all>> fm is wicked but 'taint easy ... the m is for multiplication and we all >> know math is hard ... you can do really great "evolving" shit with the >> dx7 > > FM = Frequency Modulation. > > I wouldn't say it, or any FM synth, is great for evolving pads. That's > more the league of a kawai k5000 or oberheim matrix-1000. And forget it > for any sort of useful bass. (except of course, sinewaves and the infamous > "latelybass") It's good for plucked sounds, like harpsichords, electric > pianos, and weird, extremely raw digital FX. > > Also, I wouldn't want somebody picking up the DX-7 thinking it's easy to > learn :/ > >> brian eno is a bad ass dx7 programmer > > True. > >> trent reznor has destroyed more dx7s than any other living human. > > Also very true. I'm not sure why these rawk stars pick on DX-7's to > destroy, or pose with while playing. I think I saw crystal method banging > on one while it wasn't plugged in to anything. > > Andrew > > -- > -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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