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Sure yeah, bleep has got lots to commend it by virtue of the fact that it don't have no DRM, and it's swift and straightforward to purchase once your account is set up... only little quibble I'd have is that they don't encode their mp3's at a higher bitrate - LAME alt-preset standard bitrate of 192 vbr is pretty good, but there are others offering less compressed audio... Both kompakt and beatport offer tracks at an (almost) standard 320 kbps across the board... granted you're probably not going to pick up quite as many "IDM/electronica" artists on these sites, their marketplace being moreso the club (whichever "house/techno" genre) sounds favoured by the four to the floor fraternity... Otherwise, as I've said before, a subscription with emusic is a pretty economical means of picking up a fair bit of a mix of allsorts of indepenently released musics, generally encoded at alt-preset-standard LAME, and with a surprising amount of quality sounds on tap. A 90 tracks monthly subscription costs little more than the price of a single album on CD... |---------+----------------------------> | | Zach Hoon | | | <sorted@saturn5.c| | | om> | | | | | | 28/03/2006 21:35 | | | | |---------+----------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: idm@hyperreal.org | | cc: | | Subject: [Possible Spam] Re: [idm] People who still pay for music shout-out... | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| i just want to take this moment to say hooray for bleep.com. i used to download all sorts of stuff, but i got sick of the crap quality and queues and all that. now i just use bleep. they have nearly everything i'm looking for, be it idm, weird ass stuff, indie, downtempo, etc, and they've turned me on to all sorts of music i might never have heard of. i'm sick of the space all the vinyl and cds take up. once the conversion to digital format is complete, i will sell it all off to make room for more books (and when they come up with a suitable digital format for books, bye bye hard copies!). sound quality schmound quality, 10 years of djing has made me deaf enough not to notice. drive failure? dvd backups. cover art and liner notes? bah, most of it sucks these days. bleep has become my onestop shop. anyone have any other music sites they'd care to recommend? itunes and their drm can suck it. i don't share files, but i don't want to have to 'authorize' every damn device i play my tracks on (i use a lot of different devices). wow this kinda turned into a rant, didn't it? crazy. music: i like wisp's 'nthndr'. nothing groundbreaking, but nice tunes. 'congratulations' is often repeated. i also want more from s.t. 'emotions in a box' ep is grand, and i like the 'i'll meet you there' ep...how about a full album? k, i'm done. -z chthonic streams wrote:

quoted 24 lines I hope the idea of rewarding

>>> I hope the idea of rewarding >>> artists financially if you value their music hasn't gone completely >>> out of style. >>> >> Agreed. The reason I sell on eBay is to buy more. >> It is not now, nor never has been a money-making proposition for me - >> it's more of an addiction than anything. > > ditto. i make music but that doesn't mean i stopped listening or caring > about other artists, or that i always just want to trade with them ot > just download. mp3s just make me want to buy the release if the music > is good. > > case in point, when some depeche mode single remixes came out recently i > checked out the remixers' work and ended up ordering a metope album and > an areal records comp. also got judith juillerat's debut on > shitkatapult, good stuff! > > > d. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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Audiobulb Records has its work out in digital shops and yes iTunes, eMusic, Napster and RealNetworks/Rhapsody seems to be where the action is in terms of sales. There is definately a sense that this is agrowth area and whilst CD sales drop off from some - digital sales are picking up. The eMusic deal seems like a good one. Which of these digital outlets do people find easiest or most useful to use? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Brian.Power@cso.ie> To: "Zach Hoon" <sorted@saturn5.com> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:04 AM Subject: [idm] idm] People who still pay for music shout-out...

quoted 115 lines Sure yeah, bleep has got lots to commend it by virtue of the fact that it

> Sure yeah, bleep has got lots to commend it by virtue of the fact that it > don't have no DRM, and it's swift and straightforward to purchase once > your > account is set up... only little quibble I'd have is that they don't > encode > their mp3's at a higher bitrate - LAME alt-preset standard bitrate of 192 > vbr is pretty good, but there are others offering less compressed audio... > > Both kompakt and beatport offer tracks at an (almost) standard 320 kbps > across the board... granted you're probably not going to pick up quite as > many "IDM/electronica" artists on these sites, their marketplace being > moreso the club (whichever "house/techno" genre) sounds favoured by the > four to the floor fraternity... > > Otherwise, as I've said before, a subscription with emusic is a pretty > economical means of picking up a fair bit of a mix of allsorts of > indepenently released musics, generally encoded at alt-preset-standard > LAME, and with a surprising amount of quality sounds on tap. A 90 tracks > monthly subscription costs little more than the price of a single album on > CD... > > > > |---------+----------------------------> > | | Zach Hoon | > | | <sorted@saturn5.c| > | | om> | > | | | > | | 28/03/2006 21:35 | > | | | > |---------+----------------------------> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | To: idm@hyperreal.org > | > | cc: > | > | Subject: [Possible Spam] Re: [idm] People who still pay for > music shout-out... | > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| > > > > > > i just want to take this moment to say hooray for bleep.com. > > i used to download all sorts of stuff, but i got sick of the crap > quality and queues and all that. now i just use bleep. they have nearly > everything i'm looking for, be it idm, weird ass stuff, indie, > downtempo, etc, and they've turned me on to all sorts of music i might > never have heard of. > > i'm sick of the space all the vinyl and cds take up. once the conversion > to digital format is complete, i will sell it all off to make room for > more books (and when they come up with a suitable digital format for > books, bye bye hard copies!). sound quality schmound quality, 10 years > of djing has made me deaf enough not to notice. drive failure? dvd > backups. cover art and liner notes? bah, most of it sucks these days. > > bleep has become my onestop shop. anyone have any other music sites > they'd care to recommend? itunes and their drm can suck it. i don't > share files, but i don't want to have to 'authorize' every damn device i > play my tracks on (i use a lot of different devices). > > wow this kinda turned into a rant, didn't it? crazy. > > music: i like wisp's 'nthndr'. nothing groundbreaking, but nice tunes. > 'congratulations' is often repeated. i also want more from s.t. > 'emotions in a box' ep is grand, and i like the 'i'll meet you there' > ep...how about a full album? > > k, i'm done. > > -z > > > chthonic streams wrote: >>>> I hope the idea of rewarding >>>> artists financially if you value their music hasn't gone completely >>>> out of style. >>>> >>> Agreed. The reason I sell on eBay is to buy more. >>> It is not now, nor never has been a money-making proposition for me - >>> it's more of an addiction than anything. >> >> ditto. i make music but that doesn't mean i stopped listening or caring >> about other artists, or that i always just want to trade with them ot >> just download. mp3s just make me want to buy the release if the music >> is good. >> >> case in point, when some depeche mode single remixes came out recently i >> checked out the remixers' work and ended up ordering a metope album and >> an areal records comp. also got judith juillerat's debut on >> shitkatapult, good stuff! >> >> >> d. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >

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Just for clarification, which of these services use DRM or other protection? Bleep - NO Kompakt - ? Beatport - ? Audiobulb - ? iTunes - YES eMusic - YES? Napster - YES Rapsody - YES? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David @ Audiobulb" <dwnewman@clara.co.uk> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [idm] idm] People who still pay for music shout-out...

quoted 146 lines Audiobulb Records has its work out in digital shops and yes iTunes,

> Audiobulb Records has its work out in digital shops and yes iTunes, > eMusic, Napster and RealNetworks/Rhapsody seems to be where the action is > in terms of sales. There is definately a sense that this is agrowth area > and whilst CD sales drop off from some - digital sales are picking up. The > eMusic deal seems like a good one. > > Which of these digital outlets do people find easiest or most useful to > use? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Brian.Power@cso.ie> > To: "Zach Hoon" <sorted@saturn5.com> > Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:04 AM > Subject: [idm] idm] People who still pay for music shout-out... > > >> Sure yeah, bleep has got lots to commend it by virtue of the fact that it >> don't have no DRM, and it's swift and straightforward to purchase once >> your >> account is set up... only little quibble I'd have is that they don't >> encode >> their mp3's at a higher bitrate - LAME alt-preset standard bitrate of 192 >> vbr is pretty good, but there are others offering less compressed >> audio... >> >> Both kompakt and beatport offer tracks at an (almost) standard 320 kbps >> across the board... granted you're probably not going to pick up quite as >> many "IDM/electronica" artists on these sites, their marketplace being >> moreso the club (whichever "house/techno" genre) sounds favoured by the >> four to the floor fraternity... >> >> Otherwise, as I've said before, a subscription with emusic is a pretty >> economical means of picking up a fair bit of a mix of allsorts of >> indepenently released musics, generally encoded at alt-preset-standard >> LAME, and with a surprising amount of quality sounds on tap. A 90 tracks >> monthly subscription costs little more than the price of a single album >> on >> CD... >> >> >> >> |---------+----------------------------> >> | | Zach Hoon | >> | | <sorted@saturn5.c| >> | | om> | >> | | | >> | | 28/03/2006 21:35 | >> | | | >> |---------+----------------------------> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| >> | | >> | To: idm@hyperreal.org | >> | cc: | >> | Subject: [Possible Spam] Re: [idm] People who still pay for >> music shout-out... | >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| >> >> >> >> >> >> i just want to take this moment to say hooray for bleep.com. >> >> i used to download all sorts of stuff, but i got sick of the crap >> quality and queues and all that. now i just use bleep. they have nearly >> everything i'm looking for, be it idm, weird ass stuff, indie, >> downtempo, etc, and they've turned me on to all sorts of music i might >> never have heard of. >> >> i'm sick of the space all the vinyl and cds take up. once the conversion >> to digital format is complete, i will sell it all off to make room for >> more books (and when they come up with a suitable digital format for >> books, bye bye hard copies!). sound quality schmound quality, 10 years >> of djing has made me deaf enough not to notice. drive failure? dvd >> backups. cover art and liner notes? bah, most of it sucks these days. >> >> bleep has become my onestop shop. anyone have any other music sites >> they'd care to recommend? itunes and their drm can suck it. i don't >> share files, but i don't want to have to 'authorize' every damn device i >> play my tracks on (i use a lot of different devices). >> >> wow this kinda turned into a rant, didn't it? crazy. >> >> music: i like wisp's 'nthndr'. nothing groundbreaking, but nice tunes. >> 'congratulations' is often repeated. i also want more from s.t. >> 'emotions in a box' ep is grand, and i like the 'i'll meet you there' >> ep...how about a full album? >> >> k, i'm done. >> >> -z >> >> >> chthonic streams wrote: >>>>> I hope the idea of rewarding >>>>> artists financially if you value their music hasn't gone completely >>>>> out of style. >>>>> >>>> Agreed. The reason I sell on eBay is to buy more. >>>> It is not now, nor never has been a money-making proposition for me - >>>> it's more of an addiction than anything. >>> >>> ditto. i make music but that doesn't mean i stopped listening or caring >>> about other artists, or that i always just want to trade with them ot >>> just download. mp3s just make me want to buy the release if the music >>> is good. >>> >>> case in point, when some depeche mode single remixes came out recently i >>> checked out the remixers' work and ended up ordering a metope album and >>> an areal records comp. also got judith juillerat's debut on >>> shitkatapult, good stuff! >>> >>> >>> d. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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awesome show at an awesome space! chiptune/circuitbending is so damned IDM it kills me. this here be the future of your so-called genre! and honestly, not only is it creative and cool and strange... but the music is freaking fantastic nintendo rock. great fun. now if only i could convince my girlfriend... http://www.thetanknyc.org/spaceworks/ PULSEWAVE March 31 @ 10:00 Lowbit music finds a home in this first of a monthly series of events at The Tank. Gameboys, Nintendos, Homebrew Hardware, and more collide with the First New York appearance of Underground Game Music Legend /VIRT/. Backing him up will be chip rocking Game B-Boy /BIT SHIFTER/ and raw yet complex waveforms of /ONE BIT MUSIC/. Hear releases from Bleep blop powerhouse label /8BITPEOPLES/ all night. 8Bit Visuals from mangled NES VJ NOTENDO with all artists all night. PulseWave highlights the raw and rude world of Chipmusic, Gameboy beat boxing, lo-fi electronics and raw 8bit rock. Watch a generation of dithered youths brought up on a healthy diet of Italian plumbers, spiky mammals, and gender bending space pirates warp a fascination with the tinny tones of the past into the touch tone pulse of today. For more information about PulseWave Visit: www.toilville.com/dither This Month's Artists: Virt http://virt.vgmix.com Bit Shifter http://bitshifter.cc One Bit Music http://www.onebitmusic.com NOTENDO http://www.myspace.com/johnnybeverly1989 8Bitpeoples http://8bitpeoples.com _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ? get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I don't think DRM is used in eMusic. What you get is what you keep without any restrictions. I use this service. Sincerely, Fred --- Karajabola <karajabola@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 196 lines Just for clarification, which of these services use

> Just for clarification, which of these services use > DRM or other protection? > > Bleep - NO > Kompakt - ? > Beatport - ? > Audiobulb - ? > iTunes - YES > eMusic - YES? > Napster - YES > Rapsody - YES? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David @ Audiobulb" <dwnewman@clara.co.uk> > Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:14 AM > Subject: Re: [idm] idm] People who still pay for > music shout-out... > > > > Audiobulb Records has its work out in digital > shops and yes iTunes, > > eMusic, Napster and RealNetworks/Rhapsody seems to > be where the action is > > in terms of sales. There is definately a sense > that this is agrowth area > > and whilst CD sales drop off from some - digital > sales are picking up. The > > eMusic deal seems like a good one. > > > > Which of these digital outlets do people find > easiest or most useful to > > use? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Brian.Power@cso.ie> > > To: "Zach Hoon" <sorted@saturn5.com> > > Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:04 AM > > Subject: [idm] idm] People who still pay for music > shout-out... > > > > > >> Sure yeah, bleep has got lots to commend it by > virtue of the fact that it > >> don't have no DRM, and it's swift and > straightforward to purchase once > >> your > >> account is set up... only little quibble I'd have > is that they don't > >> encode > >> their mp3's at a higher bitrate - LAME alt-preset > standard bitrate of 192 > >> vbr is pretty good, but there are others offering > less compressed > >> audio... > >> > >> Both kompakt and beatport offer tracks at an > (almost) standard 320 kbps > >> across the board... granted you're probably not > going to pick up quite as > >> many "IDM/electronica" artists on these sites, > their marketplace being > >> moreso the club (whichever "house/techno" genre) > sounds favoured by the > >> four to the floor fraternity... > >> > >> Otherwise, as I've said before, a subscription > with emusic is a pretty > >> economical means of picking up a fair bit of a > mix of allsorts of > >> indepenently released musics, generally encoded > at alt-preset-standard > >> LAME, and with a surprising amount of quality > sounds on tap. A 90 tracks > >> monthly subscription costs little more than the > price of a single album > >> on > >> CD... > >> > >> > >> > >> |---------+----------------------------> > >> | | Zach Hoon | > >> | | <sorted@saturn5.c| > >> | | om> | > >> | | | > >> | | 28/03/2006 21:35 | > >> | | | > >> |---------+----------------------------> > >> > >> > >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| > >> | | > >> | To: idm@hyperreal.org | > >> | cc: | > >> | Subject: [Possible Spam] Re: [idm] > People who still pay for > >> music shout-out... > | > >> > >> > >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> i just want to take this moment to say hooray for > bleep.com. > >> > >> i used to download all sorts of stuff, but i got > sick of the crap > >> quality and queues and all that. now i just use > bleep. they have nearly > >> everything i'm looking for, be it idm, weird ass > stuff, indie, > >> downtempo, etc, and they've turned me on to all > sorts of music i might > >> never have heard of. > >> > >> i'm sick of the space all the vinyl and cds take > up. once the conversion > >> to digital format is complete, i will sell it all > off to make room for > >> more books (and when they come up with a suitable > digital format for > >> books, bye bye hard copies!). sound quality > schmound quality, 10 years > >> of djing has made me deaf enough not to notice. > drive failure? dvd > >> backups. cover art and liner notes? bah, most of > it sucks these days. > >> > >> bleep has become my onestop shop. anyone have any > other music sites > >> they'd care to recommend? itunes and their drm > can suck it. i don't > >> share files, but i don't want to have to > 'authorize' every damn device i > >> play my tracks on (i use a lot of different > devices). > >> > >> wow this kinda turned into a rant, didn't it? > crazy. > >> > >> music: i like wisp's 'nthndr'. nothing > groundbreaking, but nice tunes. > >> 'congratulations' is often repeated. i also want > more from s.t. > >> 'emotions in a box' ep is grand, and i like the > 'i'll meet you there' > >> ep...how about a full album? > >> > >> k, i'm done. > >> > >> -z > >> > >> > >> chthonic streams wrote: > >>>>> I hope the idea of rewarding > >>>>> artists financially if you value their music > hasn't gone completely > >>>>> out of style. > >>>>> > >>>> Agreed. The reason I sell on eBay is to buy > more. > >>>> It is not now, nor never has been a > money-making proposition for me - > >>>> it's more of an addiction than anything. > >>> > >>> ditto. i make music but that doesn't mean i > stopped listening or caring > >>> about other artists, or that i always just want > to trade with them ot > >>> just download. mp3s just make me want to buy > the release if the music > >>> is good. > >>> > >>> case in point, when some depeche mode single > remixes came out recently i > >>> checked out the remixers' work and ended up > ordering a metope album and > >>> an areal records comp. also got judith > juillerat's debut on > >>> shitkatapult, good stuff! > >>> > >>> > >>> d. > >>> > >>> >

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If Kompakt uses it, I haven't experienced it. I DO wish they'd adjust their checkout so it would stop charging no EU residents VAT. I dropped a large chunk of change there one time and learned the hard way. They referred me to the German embassy in Washington DC for a refund. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Karajabola" <karajabola@gmail.com>

quoted 4 lines Just for clarification, which of these services use DRM or other protection?

> Just for clarification, which of these services use DRM or other protection? > > Bleep - NO > Kompakt - ?

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