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Re: [idm] kid a vs. homogenic

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2000-10-12 18:10alan r lucas [idm] kid a vs. homogenic
└─ 2000-10-14 18:13Mark Stevens Re: [idm] kid a vs. homogenic
2000-10-12 18:29Ron Jeremy Re: [idm] kid a vs. homogenic
└─ 2000-10-12 18:21atomly Re: [idm] kid a vs. homogenic
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2000-10-12 18:10alan r lucasif bjork's homogenic wasn't idm in 1997, then how the hell can radiohead's kid a be idm in
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if bjork's homogenic wasn't idm in 1997, then how the hell can radiohead's kid a be idm in 2000? i mean, c'mon... idioteque is the only song that really has that idm-esque music. the rest is pretty rockin'. great album, but i'd hardly call it idm. and them listening to aphex or autechre or gescom or whoever in the studio sure as hell doesn't make it idm either. big deal. lots of people listen to lots of stuff. sure you're influenced to a point, but i don't think radiohead (or just thom or whatever) listened to that stuff and said 'oh. well, now we're going to make an idm record'. i wonder if they've even heard of "idm"... alan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-14 18:13Mark StevensHere's a reply to the message "[idm] kid a vs. homogenic" written on Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:1
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Here's a reply to the message "[idm] kid a vs. homogenic" written on Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:10:31 -0400 (EDT):
quoted 2 lines if bjork's homogenic wasn't idm in 1997, then how the hell can radiohead's>if bjork's homogenic wasn't idm in 1997, then how the hell can radiohead's >kid a be idm in 2000?
Well, I've always thought of Bjork as being closer to the IDM fraternity than any other. The Sugarcubes were always a whacky, way-out sorta indie group and once Bjork hooked up with 808 State there was no looking back as far as her connections with electronic music was concerned.
quoted 2 lines i mean, c'mon... idioteque is the only song that really has that>i mean, c'mon... idioteque is the only song that really has that >idm-esque music.
You need to listen to some more stuff on the Fat Cat label. Too electronic to be called "indie", too indie to be called electronic.
quoted 1 line i wonder if they've even heard of "idm"...>i wonder if they've even heard of "idm"...
Who knows. The term does seem to be used more in the US than it does in Europe. -- Mark Stevens http://www.headspin.clara.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-12 18:29Ron Jeremy>From: alan r lucas <alucas@telerama.com> > >if bjork's homogenic wasn't idm in 1997, then
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quoted 4 lines From: alan r lucas <alucas@telerama.com>>From: alan r lucas <alucas@telerama.com> > >if bjork's homogenic wasn't idm in 1997, then how the hell can >radiohead's >kid a be idm in 2000?
Does it really matter? Does everything have to be broken up into some little "label"? Isn't it suffice to say that it has a lot of electronic music influences on it, and that it is one of the finest releases out right now.
quoted 3 lines i mean, c'mon... idioteque is the only song that really has that idm->esque>i mean, c'mon... idioteque is the only song that really has that idm->esque >music. the rest is pretty rockin'. great album, but i'd hardly >call it >idm.
Labels are for shite journalists that are too lazy to describe the music. Or people trying to sell you something.
quoted 2 lines and them listening to aphex or autechre or gescom or whoever in the >studio>and them listening to aphex or autechre or gescom or whoever in the >studio >sure as hell doesn't make it idm either. big deal.
Agreed. Whether they were listening to Aphex Twin or Billy Squier it doesn't really matter.
quoted 4 lines lots of people listen to lots of stuff. sure you're influenced>lots of people listen to lots of stuff. sure you're influenced >to a point, but i don't think radiohead (or just thom or whatever) >listened to that stuff and said 'oh. well, now we're going to make an > >idmrecord'.
Who cares why they made it? It's a good lp
quoted 1 line i wonder if they've even heard of "idm"...>i wonder if they've even heard of "idm"...
I'm sure they have heard the term "Intelligent" in regards to electronic music. I think they probably read the press just like most of us. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-12 18:21atomlyOn Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 11:29:50AM -0700, Ron Jeremy wrote: > Does it really matter? Does
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On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 11:29:50AM -0700, Ron Jeremy wrote:
quoted 7 lines Does it really matter? Does everything have to be broken up into some> Does it really matter? Does everything have to be broken up into some > little "label"? Isn't it suffice to say that it has a lot of electronic > music influences on it, and that it is one of the finest releases out right > now. > > Labels are for shite journalists that are too lazy to describe the music. Or > people trying to sell you something.
I agree completely.
quoted 2 lines Agreed. Whether they were listening to Aphex Twin or Billy Squier it doesn't> Agreed. Whether they were listening to Aphex Twin or Billy Squier it doesn't > really matter.
It would've if they would've covered "Stroke." :)
quoted 4 lines i wonder if they've even heard of "idm"...> >i wonder if they've even heard of "idm"... > > I'm sure they have heard the term "Intelligent" in regards to electronic > music. I think they probably read the press just like most of us.
Judging from the fact that Thom was charting Christoph de Babalon and the like, I think he knows some stuff about IDM. -- :: atomly :: atomly@atomly.com | atomly@atdot.org | atomly@curiousnetworks.com http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org