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1997-01-12 20:04Styrolene vaT Re: (idm) Re: i've not yet said my piece on u2.
1997-03-09 19:04wrecktangle (idm) Re: i've not yet said my piece on u2.
1997-03-09 19:26Kayser Soze Re: (idm) Re: i've not yet said my piece on u2.
└─ 1997-03-09 13:13s.f.w.d. Re: (idm) Re: i've not yet said my piece on u2.
1997-03-09 21:43Ian McCausland Re: Re: (idm) Re: i've not yet said my piece on u2.
└─ 1997-03-10 00:33Eric Frans Re: (idm) Re: i've not yet said my piece on u2.
1997-03-09 21:43Gonzi (Fresh) Re: (idm) Re: i've not yet said my piece on u2.
1997-03-10 01:25(idm) Re: i've not yet said my piece on u2.
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1997-01-12 20:04Styrolene vaT> Also saw Refried Foods (believe thats what it was)... Was wondering > if the Ae and Squa
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quoted 3 lines Also saw Refried Foods (believe thats what it was)... Was wondering> Also saw Refried Foods (believe thats what it was)... Was wondering > if the Ae and Squarepusher stuff was these guys remixing or these > guys getting remixed...
The squarepusher mix is a mix done by Tom j of Some DJ Food track or something, anyway it might as well just be a squarepusher release in its own right, buy it :). kF
1997-03-09 19:04wrecktangleOn Sat, 8 Mar 1997, susie creamcheese (the voice of bono) wrote: ]I think u2 deserves to b
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On Sat, 8 Mar 1997, susie creamcheese (the voice of bono) wrote: ]I think u2 deserves to be on idm you're one in a million. get used to it. ]DON'T WRITE BACK UNLESS YOU INTEND TO TELL ME SOMETHING USEFUL, NOT THAT I ]AM AN IDIOT. THANK YOU, I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT. MY TASTES DIFFER. MY i'll write when and what i want to you. isn't that what you're defending? ]VIEWS OF WHAT IS IDM MAY DIFFER. IDM IS A LOOSE TERM. IT SAYS SO IN THE ]INFO THINGY, IT ALSO SAYS THAT I HAVE A RIGHT TO POST SUCH MATERIAL, IF I ]CAN BACK UP MY CLAIMS. I CAN. too bad no one's buying it. i think it's painfully obvious u2 have had nothing at all to do with idm (apart from making a vague and misguided attempt to appeal to the "techno" crowd as a whole, of which idm is a small, but increasingly newsworthy component). u2 are stale. u2 should live off their royalties or whatever money they've invested after selling 35 zillion albums and save the airtime for people who have been there since the beginning and are truly dedicated to moving idm forward. and by the way...I'M GONNA SNEAK INTO YOUR HOUSE TONIGHT AND PULL THE MOTHERFUCKING CAPS LOCK KEY OUT OF YOUR KEYBOARD, SHOVE IT UP MY ASS, AND FART IT DOWN YOUR THROAT. .------------------------------------------------------------------------. | nm: nickworthington | ml: nworth1@umbc.edu | "Gott wuerfelt nicht!" ae | |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~nworth1 | 25% grandizer -=*=- 100% wrecktangle | `------------------------------------------------------------------------'
1997-03-09 19:26Kayser SozeHello, all. Now get ready for this. Hopefully my email can settle all of this. But more li
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Hello, all. Now get ready for this. Hopefully my email can settle all of this. But more likely, everyone's going to tell me to go f**k myself. I've been on this list in one form or another for about 4 years now, so I DEFINITELY know the meaning of IDM within the context of this list. Here's the dope: IDM (Intelligent Dance Music) was a term that gained usage after it was defined on the first Artificial Intelligence sampler (WaxTrax!). The music is not necessarily for dancing, but it should be fairly groovy (unlike straight ambient). Imagine kind of standing in one place and bouncing around to a song without having to move your feet. The song you're listening to at that time would be classified as IDM. I know there's a lot of crossover, so the term has to be used loosely. Bands like U2 (I still like them), don't qualify as IDM, as this is not typically their type of music, and the extent of their entry into this "genre" depends on who's producing their latest album. For instance, Saint Etienne are not IDM, but many of the bands who remix them make IDM music. Therefore, you're welcome to talk about those remixes, but please go elsewhere in search of bands who play the type of music which Saint Etienne create themselves. Neither U2, or their producers and their remixers qualify as IDM. You may want to discuss this stuff on alt.music.techno (I believe) or some alternative mailing list. If you go there, you won't be flamed or sworn at, you'll find people with similar interests, and none of us will need to read hundreds of emails about something which is pretty cut and dry to begin with. So without further adieu, let the mud fly. I can take it. Kayser Soze (the mystery man)
1997-03-09 13:13s.f.w.d.> IDM (Intelligent Dance Music) was a term that gained usage after it was > defined on the
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quoted 8 lines IDM (Intelligent Dance Music) was a term that gained usage after it was> IDM (Intelligent Dance Music) was a term that gained usage after it was > defined on the first Artificial Intelligence sampler (WaxTrax!). The > music is not necessarily for dancing, but it should be fairly groovy > (unlike straight ambient). Imagine kind of standing in one place and > bouncing around to a song without having to move your feet. The song > you're listening to at that time would be classified as IDM. I know > there's a lot of crossover, so the term has to be used loosely. >
I'd say ColdKrushCuts falls in there... I'm really new to the Ninja Tune label... anyone got any suggestions for futher buying of Ninja Tune material... the before mentioned title really blew me away... Also saw Refried Foods (believe thats what it was)... Was wondering if the Ae and Squarepusher stuff was these guys remixing or these guys getting remixed... thanks (off to listen to Atomic Moog... again!) __________________________________________ sfwd@sonic.net C.H.U.D. & The Stuff... They Just Don't Make Em Like They Used To..
1997-03-09 21:43Ian McCauslandkysrsoze@dls.net,Internet writes: Neither U2, or their producers and their remixers qualif
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kysrsoze@dls.net,Internet writes: Neither U2, or their producers and their remixers qualify as IDM. You may want to discuss this stuff on alt.music.techno (I believe) or some alternative mailing list. If you go there, you won't be flamed or sworn at, you'll find people with similar interests, and none of us will need to read hundreds of emails about something which is pretty cut and dry to begin with. the facist attitude toward whats "thislisty" or not is starting to really piss me off... we all have a common interest,... IDM what we talk about I think should be a matter of personal freedom... if Gloria Estifan teams up with Orbital... or Pat Boone goes JUngle,.. and I wanna talk about it.... I will and there is Nuthing you should be able to do about it....
1997-03-10 00:33Eric FransOn 9 Mar 1997, Ian McCausland wrote: } if } Gloria Estifan teams up with Orbital... or Pat
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On 9 Mar 1997, Ian McCausland wrote: } if } Gloria Estifan teams up with Orbital... or Pat Boone goes JUngle,.. and I } wanna talk about it.... I will and there is Nuthing you should be able to do } about it.... Oh, but there is. I will simply ignore it and hit the delete button, which is what I wish would have happened with this whole U2 thread. If everyone who disagreed with that intial post would have simply ignored the post, the message would have been sent that it was of no interest here. | E r i c | [mail] franse@engr.arizona.edu | | F r a n s | [web] http://intermix.engr.arizona.edu/~franse | "Make the events occur that you want to occur" - The Black Dog
1997-03-09 21:43Gonzi (Fresh)> For instance, > Saint Etienne are not IDM, but many of the bands who remix them make IDM
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quoted 5 lines For instance,> For instance, > Saint Etienne are not IDM, but many of the bands who remix them make IDM > music. Therefore, you're welcome to talk about those remixes, but > please go elsewhere in search of bands who play the type of music which > Saint Etienne create themselves.
Hmmm...I don't know if that's exactly right. I mean look at someone like The Gentle People, are they considered IDM simply because they get the richard/grant seal of approval? They are certainly not as dancy as St. Etienne. What is it exactly that makes St. Etienne not Intellegent Dance Music? Their popularity? They're less popular than Orbital at the moment. Oh never mind, this is a stupid argument anyhow. BTW, check out the Warp site, they have an .ra clip from Rubber Johnny up. Sounds good to me, they got my money... _____ / ,-,_) /,_) (/ RESH Live & Direct from the G-Spot, Orange County, California, USA Luke Vibert RA show + : http://www1.linkonline.net/fresh/fresh.htm
1997-03-10 01:25tweibrecht@juno.comOn 09 Mar 1997 21:43:11 GMT Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca (Ian McCausland) writes: >kysrs
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On 09 Mar 1997 21:43:11 GMT Ian_McCausland@mit.bison.mb.ca (Ian McCausland) writes:
quoted 25 lines kysrsoze@dls.net,Internet writes:>kysrsoze@dls.net,Internet writes: >Neither U2, or their producers and their remixers qualify as IDM. You >may want to discuss this stuff on alt.music.techno (I believe) or some >alternative mailing list. If you go there, you won't be flamed or >sworn >at, you'll find people with similar interests, and none of us will >need >to read hundreds of emails about something which is pretty cut and dry >to begin with. > > > > >the facist attitude toward whats "thislisty" or not is starting to >really >piss me off... we all have a common interest,... IDM >what we talk about I think should be a matter of personal freedom... >if >Gloria Estifan teams up with Orbital... or Pat Boone goes JUngle,.. >and I >wanna talk about it.... I will and there is Nuthing you should be able >to do >about it.... > >
exactly... tom w np- u2 - pop