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quoted 2 lines It's always been my dream to start an a cappella techno group. We'd

>It's always been my dream to start an a cappella techno group. We'd >bring beat boxing back in style "A pumpbh, a pumbh, a <hiccup> puumbh!"

I've been thinking that I'd like to do a similar thing, that is, sample a bunch of strange vocal sounds/words and then mutate them to the point that they are unrecognizable so that they can be used as percussive effects. The only examples I can think of that come close to this are Kraftwerk's "Boing Boom Tschak", those laughing and wheezing samples on the Ventolin EP, and that karate stuff on _Salsa with Mesquite_. GD

quoted 2 lines It's always been my dream to start an a cappella techno group. We'd

>>It's always been my dream to start an a cappella techno group. We'd >>bring beat boxing back in style "A pumpbh, a pumbh, a <hiccup> puumbh!"

quoted 4 lines I've been thinking that I'd like to do a similar thing, that is, sample a

>I've been thinking that I'd like to do a similar thing, that is, sample a >bunch of strange vocal sounds/words and then mutate them to the >point that they are unrecognizable so that they can be used as >percussive effects.

The Art of Noise has some good stuff too and Ultramarine use vocal 'percussion' on some tracks off United Kingdom. I wonder if you could get a song going using just minimal effects. Have spoken word parts by people with really different voices and just layer and loop them (or get text parts which are naturally loopy, like poetry with repeated phrases). I wish I had some sampling equipment. [fletcher]

On Nov 20, 4:30pm, GD wrote:

quoted 9 lines Subject: RE: (idm) Vocals

> Subject: RE: (idm) Vocals > >It's always been my dream to start an a cappella techno group. We'd > >bring beat boxing back in style "A pumpbh, a pumbh, a <hiccup> puumbh!" > > I've been thinking that I'd like to do a similar thing, that is, sample a > bunch of strange vocal sounds/words and then mutate them to the > point that they are unrecognizable so that they can be used as > percussive effects. >

Well, it's been done before. One of the members of Kraftwerk used it in his solo work. Plus I've heard it on the number of non-techno records. Sounds pretty interesting, especially if you route the velocity to the sample start! Mike -- --------------------------------------------------------- -------- Dammit, where's that Byx Jeeb character? ------ --------------------------------------------------------- - MIKE . 708 435 0010 (W VOX) - 708 BYX JEEB (H VOX) - - DVORKIN . 708 435 0013 (W FAX) - dvorkinm@pcs.mot.com - ---------------------------------------------------------

quoted 5 lines I wonder if you could get a song going using just minimal effects.

> I wonder if you could get a song going using just minimal effects. > Have spoken word parts by people with really different voices and > just layer and loop them (or get text parts which are naturally > loopy, like poetry with repeated phrases). >

Listen to early ultramarin records. Although they were a little too much into natural instruments :) Mike -- --------------------------------------------------------- -------- Dammit, where's that Byx Jeeb character? ------ --------------------------------------------------------- - MIKE . 708 435 0010 (W VOX) - 708 BYX JEEB (H VOX) - - DVORKIN . 708 435 0013 (W FAX) - dvorkinm@pcs.mot.com - ---------------------------------------------------------

[fletcher] sez:

quoted 6 lines I really like vocals in techno song where you can just barely make out

> > I really like vocals in techno song where you can just barely make out > the words. > > I'm wondering if anybody know of any songs which are entirely > vocal or significantly vocal (but obscured or weird vocals).

For `weird' acapella stuff, theres an LP by Sheila Chandra (on Virgin Records) - but I can't remember it's name :( Sorry! Anyway, from what I've heard, it's pretty good. Maybe what you're looking for? john.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | e-mail: jat@ohm.york.ac.uk | | web pages start here: http://www.york.ac.uk/~jat5/ | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * my music: http://www.york.ac.uk/~jat5/html/music.html * *********************************************************

On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, john.. wrote:

quoted 4 lines For `weird' acapella stuff, theres an LP by Sheila Chandra (on Virgin

> For `weird' acapella stuff, theres an LP by Sheila Chandra (on Virgin > Records) - but I can't remember it's name :( Sorry! Anyway, from what > I've heard, it's pretty good. Maybe what you're looking for? > john..

I saw her on Later With Jools Holland...maybe that's a bit too weird... Rob.

Inform the yanks...Is later with Jools Holland the "squeezable" equivalent to later with Bob Costas? and rather than discuss forgettable baseball statistics, do they discuss music? ______________________________________________________________________________ Cameron Bowden cameron@fishtank.com Blacksmith on the anvil in your ear... Electronica for the jaded and discerning boingboomtchackboingboomtchackboingboomtchackboingboomtchackboingboomtchack ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Rob Thorley wrote:

quoted 13 lines On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, john.. wrote:

> > > On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, john.. wrote: > > > For `weird' acapella stuff, theres an LP by Sheila Chandra (on Virgin > > Records) - but I can't remember it's name :( Sorry! Anyway, from what > > I've heard, it's pretty good. Maybe what you're looking for? > > john.. > > I saw her on Later With Jools Holland...maybe that's a bit too weird... > > Rob. >

On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, cameron wrote:

quoted 3 lines Inform the yanks...Is later with Jools Holland the "squeezable"

> Inform the yanks...Is later with Jools Holland the "squeezable" > equivalent to later with Bob Costas? and rather than discuss forgettable > baseball statistics, do they discuss music?

Sorry...Jools Holland used to be in Squeeze, a British pop band, then got a job in telly. He now presents a live music show where all sorts of artists come and play, from Portishead (a while ago) to Garth Brooks (last week), with lots of ageing(sp?) blues singers thrown in for fun. Not my cup of tea all the time, but he's a nice bloke Rob.

On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, cameron wrote:

quoted 3 lines Inform the yanks...Is later with Jools Holland the "squeezable"

> Inform the yanks...Is later with Jools Holland the "squeezable" > equivalent to later with Bob Costas? and rather than discuss forgettable > baseball statistics, do they discuss music?

`Later... with Jools Holland' is one of *the* best music shows on British TV (IMO). Basically, a number of bands get together in a largish TV studio and do their live stuff... The music is varied (this week there was Aimee Mann, Blur, Soul II Soul, some Algerian trio - and probably some other people) so whilst you might tune in to hear a particular artist, you also get exposed to other musics which may be completely new to you. Ok, for those of you heavily into techno etc. then it's probably not for you. If, however, you're into broadening your musical horizons, then it's pretty good... Jools Holland is (for those who didn't know) a *shit hot* pianist, especially boogie-woogie/R&B styles. He used to be the keyboard player for `Squeeze'. He's currently on a UK tour (I think) and he's playing York Barbican Centre on Dec. 8th. Fantastic! john.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | e-mail: jat@ohm.york.ac.uk | | web pages start here: http://www.york.ac.uk/~jat5/ | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * my music: http://www.york.ac.uk/~jat5/html/music.html * *********************************************************

quoted 1 line Subject: Re: (idm) Vocals

> Subject: Re: (idm) Vocals

quoted 16 lines [fletcher] sez:

> > [fletcher] sez: > > > > I really like vocals in techno song where you can just barely make out > > the words. > > > > I'm wondering if anybody know of any songs which are entirely > > vocal or significantly vocal (but obscured or weird vocals). > > For `weird' acapella stuff, theres an LP by Sheila Chandra (on Virgin > Records) - but I can't remember it's name :( Sorry! Anyway, from what > I've heard, it's pretty good. Maybe what you're looking for? > > > john.. >

I think you mean "Weaving my ancestors' voices". Adam --------------------------------------------------------- Mr A Huffman e-mail: pcp95mah@shef.ac.uk Ph.D Student Speech Science Univ. of Sheffield 18 Claremont Crescent Sheffield S10 2TA England

I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned it yet, but Nightmares On Wax had a very funny track on their first album which was vocal samples only (a bit human beatbox-ish). Bye, Vidar ---- // Beatservice Records ArcticTechnoAmbientElectronicListeningMusic \\ \\ P.O.Box 5299 fax: (+47) 77 67 66 88 // // 9024 TOMASJORD e-mail: vidarh@beatservice.no \\ \\ NORWAY url: http://www.beatservice.no/beatservice // \\ ***** BS003 MIND OVER MIDI "Elektrical Aktivity EP 1" out now ***** //

At 3:25 AM 11/22/95, Vidar Hanssen wrote:

quoted 3 lines I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned it yet, but Nightmares On Wax had a

>I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned it yet, but Nightmares On Wax had a >very funny track on their first album which was vocal samples only (a bit >human beatbox-ish).

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Todd Rundgren's "A Capella" record, on which _every_ instrumental sound is a sampled vocal bit (so you get lots of AON-style "dum de dum dum dum" basslines and such.) Interesting as a proof of concept, a bit less so as a record (though the cut "Blue Orpheus" is awesome). -- dave walker, detroit art services _ marmoset@conch.aa.msen.com born freeke <A HREF="http://www.msen.com/~marmoset/">Dave Walker</A>