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>what is on topic...: how are the different senking releases different >from each other? i'm looking for mellow minimal vaguely-dub influenced >oceanic bass heavy "techno" (although it doesn't need to have a 4/4 >beat, or a beat at all) along the lines of Various Artists' later stuff, > >vladislav delay's early stuff, and i've heard senking is a good place to > >look...which album is the best? the best SENKING i've heard is the "trial" cd on raster-noton. the 20 to 2000 3inch cd is also very good, though i've only heard it once or twice. the s/t cd is much more ambient and less beat driven than his other work. the "ping/thaw" cd is a typical idm album-kind of like "tri-repetae"-era AUTECHRE, though not as jagged, with a smoother, dub-influenced vibe. basically the raster material is a bit more unique, developed, and glitchier. other stuff i'd recommend would be ANDREAS TILLIANDER/MOKIRA, POLE, MAURIZIO, MONOLAKE ("hong kong" should suit your taste), KIT CLAYTON, JONAS BERING "emballages" 12", GUSTAVO LAMAS "celeste" 12", PLASTIKMAN "consumed", DUB TAYLOR, BASIC CHANNEL, PUB, LOSOUL, and DETTINGER. if a song-oriented pop album doesn't scare you definitely pick up "bodily functions" by HERBERT. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 13 lines From: matis <keynell@wp.pl>

>From: matis <keynell@wp.pl> >To: "idm@hyperreal.org" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: [idm] senking >Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 21:33:43 +0100 > >few days ago someone mentioned Senking, >i`ve seen this video , can`t recall name , from "Ping / Thaw" >and i think it`s brilliant , it remainds me Autechre a little , so i was >wondering >what this record (ping/thaw) is like? any good ? >did he released other records before ? >"Ping/Thaw" is currently unavailable in my country (PL) , but if it`s >woth it i`ll try to get it in other way

"Ping/Thaw" is a pretty good release, on the Karaoke Kalk label. It's got a really industrial sort of sound about it I think... that sort of post-TG wasteland effect on some of the sounds and atmospheres. Take some of that early 80's mood (think TG, early Coil, Zoviet France) and combine it with some deep electronic percussion and minimal glitchy stuff. I haven't listened to it in a while so I'm going from memory, maybe I'm not giving the best description.... It's a solid effort although I prefer the releases that followed, especially "Trial" which was released as part of the Static series on the Raster label. It seemed to get panned by a lot of magazines/journalists but I thought it was one of the best releases of its sort at the time (and even now)... definitely a departure from the previous stuff and more in the speaker-crackling clicks and cuts sort of sound. Everything is so dark on it, crisp and tons of effects and reverb in various spots. It's a tight tight album. "Silencer" which was released maybe half a year ago on KK as well is a solid one too, a lot more ambient and returning more to earlier Senking a little, but very nice stuff. It's short, but still worth it. On a side note I also really like his stuff as Kandis which is a little lighter in mood, and draws on more disparate influences, combining some of the clicky techno stuff from Force Inc/MP and also some strange vocal stuff, weird affected drum loops, etc. The compilation CD on KK includes most if not all of the Kandis vinyl releases on one CD which is really worth it. How is his other project, Fumble? Anyone who can offer a description... I'm curious. thanks _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

also a big senking fan here. where'd you see that video? never seen one myself. as for fumble, it's quite nice. every time i put it on someone asks what it is. it's playful, glitchy, textured and deep without getting as heavy as something like "trial." btw, anyone have an opinion on the new Vladislav Delay?

quoted 13 lines From: matis <keynell@wp.pl>

>From: matis <keynell@wp.pl> >To: "idm@hyperreal.org" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: [idm] senking >Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 21:33:43 +0100 > >few days ago someone mentioned Senking, >i`ve seen this video , can`t recall name , from "Ping / Thaw" >and i think it`s brilliant , it remainds me Autechre a little , so i was >wondering >what this record (ping/thaw) is like? any good ? >did he released other records before ? >"Ping/Thaw" is currently unavailable in my country (PL) , but if it`s >woth it i`ll try to get it in other way

"Ping/Thaw" is a pretty good release, on the Karaoke Kalk label. It's got a really industrial sort of sound about it I think... that sort of post-TG wasteland effect on some of the sounds and atmospheres. Take some of that early 80's mood (think TG, early Coil, Zoviet France) and combine it with some deep electronic percussion and minimal glitchy stuff. I haven't listened to it in a while so I'm going from memory, maybe I'm not giving the best description.... It's a solid effort although I prefer the releases that followed, especially "Trial" which was released as part of the Static series on the Raster label. It seemed to get panned by a lot of magazines/journalists but I thought it was one of the best releases of its sort at the time (and even now)... definitely a departure from the previous stuff and more in the speaker-crackling clicks and cuts sort of sound. Everything is so dark on it, crisp and tons of effects and reverb in various spots. It's a tight tight album. "Silencer" which was released maybe half a year ago on KK as well is a solid one too, a lot more ambient and returning more to earlier Senking a little, but very nice stuff. It's short, but still worth it. On a side note I also really like his stuff as Kandis which is a little lighter in mood, and draws on more disparate influences, combining some of the clicky techno stuff from Force Inc/MP and also some strange vocal stuff, weird affected drum loops, etc. The compilation CD on KK includes most if not all of the Kandis vinyl releases on one CD which is really worth it. How is his other project, Fumble? Anyone who can offer a description... I'm curious. thanks ******************* David Poole DiversiForm, Inc.

ping/thaw and the s/t are o.k., but not as refined as "trial" or "silencer". i think "silencer" is his best. you can read my review at http://www.absorb.org/reviews/a_senking.html _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 1 line also a big senking fan here. where'd you see that video? never seen one myself.

> also a big senking fan here. where'd you see that video? never seen one myself.

Now i remember it was "Risk" , great video ,some installation , pastel colors , when bass got louder the picture was blurring , i think it is one of the greatest "idm video" ever seen . As for the tv prog - it was THE GREAT "WAH2" on "VIVA 2" . This channel was suspended from the beginning of the year 2002 , it`s so sad. They had few interesting shows. I remember there was "WAH2" with: -Chris Cunningham -possibly all of his videos : 2xAphex Twin , Squarepusher , Autechre , Bjork , The Auters , Jesus Jones , Placebo ...i think that all... -Aphex Twin - few of his videos , few "ersatz videos" for tracks that didn`t have videos : one from "2 remixes by AFX" , Cymrubeats and another one , i can`t remember the name but the video was from NIN , it actually fit very well to that track. -Mouse on Mars , videos from MOM , Microstoria (great "Kontra") , fx randomiz ("Stack") , Scratch pet land , Lithops (from "Didot")... -2 shows with Sonar Festival in Barcelona , fragments of live shows from Curd Duca , Vladislav Delay (as himself and as Luomo) , Techno Animal , SND , Plaid , Twerk and others... -Merzbow and Zbigniew Karkowski , both alone and in duo "MAZK" ...that was difficult experience for my speakers... -and many more , but they were sometimes playing videos from : Jan Jelinek "Do Dekor" , Pan Sonic "Urania" , Microstoria "Kontra" , Plaid "Eyen" , Jake Mandell - can`t remember the name , Oval "Textuell" , Flanger "Options in the fire" , Amon Tobin "Slowly" & "4 Ton Mantis" , few videos from Phoneheads , Makai , nearly all of MOM`s videos , Pluramon "Flicker rmx by Sensorama" & "Hintergrunt rmx by Mogwai" , Tortoise "Dear Grandma & Grandpa" , "4 Day Interval" , "Seneca" , to rococco rot "Telema" and one from "Music is a hungry ghost"...& of course many more Also there was "Electronic Beats" , also nice show , it featured : Sonar Festival , fragments of a live by Senor Coconut , Richard Devine , Jake Mandell and so on. But this show is currently available for watching on VIVA (one) , few days ago i saw Pan Sonic "Endless" (with Alan Vega - earlier i thought that vocals and PanSonic can`t fit together but in this track {i hope that also in other tracks}it sounded great , like humming ...very nice indeed) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org