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I think that one of the frontlines of modern electronica is the intersection of electronic music with jazz. I'm not sure that this direction can be considered in frames of IDM, but anyway... There are many records that can be described as electronic jazz (or maybe "new jazz" is the right term), but none of them can (at my opinion) compare to FLANGER. I'd be thankful to hear some more names of modern electronic jazz, which are worth listening to (although I know some of them like Cinematic Orchestra, Amon Tobin, Up Bustle & Out). I'd be also glad to get a response from the other fan of modern electronic jazz. Sorry if this all is a bit off-topic. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 10 lines I think that one of the frontlines of modern electronica is the

>I think that one of the frontlines of modern electronica is the >intersection of electronic music with jazz. I'm not sure that this >direction can be considered in frames of IDM, but anyway... There >are many records that can be described as electronic jazz (or maybe >"new jazz" is the right term), but none of them can (at my opinion) >compare to FLANGER. I'd be thankful to hear some more names of >modern electronic jazz, which are worth listening to (although I >know some of them like Cinematic Orchestra, Amon Tobin, Up Bustle & >Out). I'd be also glad to get a response from the other fan of >modern electronic jazz. Sorry if this all is a bit off-topic.

If you're looking for something that compares with Flanger, I would suggest the new Atom Heart cd-'The Roger Tubesound Ensemble Plays Just Notes' on Rather Interesting. Probably the best electronic jazz record I have ever heard. The first Tubesound is really good too, "Pentatonic Surprise' but it is way out of print and impossible to find. -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

on 4/22/02 9:15 AM, Oleg Vorobyov at oleg_vorobyov@ukr.net scrawled:

quoted 10 lines I think that one of the frontlines of modern electronica is the intersection

> I think that one of the frontlines of modern electronica is the intersection > of electronic music with jazz. I'm not sure that this direction can be > considered in frames of IDM, but anyway... There are many records that can be > described as electronic jazz (or maybe "new jazz" is the right term), but none > of them can (at my opinion) compare to FLANGER. I'd be thankful to hear some > more names of modern electronic jazz, which are worth listening to (although I > know some of them like Cinematic Orchestra, Amon Tobin, Up Bustle & Out). I'd > be also glad to get a response from the other fan of modern electronic jazz. > Sorry if this all is a bit off-topic. >

Hmm... it looks like flanger is about the only common ground we have on this tip listening wise, but I'll bounce some stuff of you regardless. Click Tracy (aka Books on Tape) is doing some pretty cool stuff right now. His stuff is mainly comprised of sampled jazz instrumentation built around breakbeat loops. It has a really interesting sound because there is this incredible tension between the source sounds and they way they are arranged. I had the fortune of scoring a preview of an upcoming Notype release of some of this material and it was some of the best stuff I've heard in the last few months.. There may be some tracks but click Tracy at http://www.subverseco.com - I haven't checked the site for a while. I don't know if It's as easy to swallow as the flanger material but I highly recommend keeping your ears open for this cat. More harshish, and equally interesting is Low Res's Heftibag release on Mille Plateaux, It evokes the same ambiguous and confused response that Frank Zappas Jazz from Hell does everytime I listen to it. That aside.. Atom Heart just did this release solo on rather interesting.. I haven't heard it yet though..

quoted 14 lines Phonics has the newer Atom Heart - THE ROGER TUBESOUND ENSEMBLE Plays

> Phonics has the newer Atom Heart - THE ROGER TUBESOUND ENSEMBLE Plays > Just Notes > > "Yes, Atom Heart is back !! A long time gone since his Pentatonic > Surprise CD spun the > world of digital jazz trickery on it's head. Mr Tubesound steps out of > retirement once again > to flex those fingers over his keyboards. 45 mins of Atom Heart's genius > for confounding > expectations, here going on a Flanger tip but ejecting Burnt Freidman > just so that Roger can > do his thing. Possibly the finest RI release since Los Samplers, highly > recommended for atomjunkies old and new. Train your brain!!" >

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Oleg Vorobyov wrote:

quoted 9 lines I think that one of the frontlines of modern electronica is the intersection

> I think that one of the frontlines of modern electronica is the intersection > of electronic music with jazz. I'm not sure that this direction can be > considered in frames of IDM, but anyway... There are many records that can be > described as electronic jazz (or maybe "new jazz" is the right term), but none > of them can (at my opinion) compare to FLANGER. I'd be thankful to hear some > more names of modern electronic jazz, which are worth listening to (although I > know some of them like Cinematic Orchestra, Amon Tobin, Up Bustle & Out). I'd > be also glad to get a response from the other fan of modern electronic jazz. > Sorry if this all is a bit off-topic.

The closest things I can think of come from the two members of Flanger. I'd suggest: Burnt Friedman's "Con Ritmo" Atom Heart's "Naturalist" cd maybe also the Lisa Carbon "Trio de Janeiro" cd Beyond that I'd suggest Squarepusher's "Music Is Rotted One Note" and the EPs from that period. Though in a different vein I'd also suggest Low Res's "Approximate Love Boat" on Plug Research. Also check out Zelonky's releases as Crank. This guy's serious. My favorite IDM meets "jazz" album (it's really only IDM by association) is the Ekswyzia (aka Dimitri Fergadis/Phthalocyanine) "Logans" EP on Phthalo. It's like some meeting between Mahavishnu-era Jan Hammer and Sun Ra. And sorry if this is redundant, but if you want to get familiar with Flanger's inspirations I'd suggest: - of course Miles Davis's "In A Silent Way" & "Bitches Brew" and the albums he recorded previous to those with the Shorter/Hancock/Carter/Williams quintet - the records Chick Corea recorded with the early version of Return To Forever (with Farrell, Purim, Clarke & Moreira) - the first self-titled Weather Report album - Herbie Hancock's "Sextant" There are probably all sorts of records from the early days of fusion, a lot of them from Miles Davis sidemen like Shorter, Hancock, Keith Jarrett, Joe Henderson, John McLaughlin, Joe Zawinul, Billy Cobham, etc., which would appeal to you. Beyond fusion I'd even suggest Damo Suzuki era Can. And I can't believe I'm doing this, but as far as contemporary stuff maybe Medeski, Martin & Wood would appeal to you. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Not like Flanger, but analogue electronica meets jazz is Tied and Tickled Trio - first two albums are excellent - a little like the aural equivalent of steampunk. With the emphasis more on jazz than electronics though containing elements of the latter I'd recommend: Supersilent, Eivind Aarset's latest (Light Extracts), Nils Petter Molvaer, Erik Truffaz (The Mask) - though these are a different kettle of fish. Enjoying the Liebezeit/Friedman album a lot though it's strangely understated and takes quite a while to sink in. All the best, Colin.

quoted 20 lines - of course Miles Davis's "In A Silent Way" & "Bitches Brew"

> - of course Miles Davis's "In A Silent Way" & "Bitches Brew" and the > albums he recorded previous to those with the > Shorter/Hancock/Carter/Williams quintet > > - the records Chick Corea recorded with the early version of Return To > Forever (with Farrell, Purim, Clarke & Moreira) > > - the first self-titled Weather Report album > > - Herbie Hancock's "Sextant" > > There are probably all sorts of records from the early days of fusion, > a lot of them from Miles Davis sidemen like Shorter, Hancock, Keith > Jarrett, Joe Henderson, John McLaughlin, Joe Zawinul, Billy Cobham, etc., > which would appeal to you. > > Beyond fusion I'd even suggest Damo Suzuki era Can. > > And I can't believe I'm doing this, but as far as contemporary stuff maybe > Medeski, Martin & Wood would appeal to you.

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AtJazz has to be the group, par excellence--that I have heard--who meets this criterion. A perfect mixture of soulful Jazz with electronic undertones.... I am really impressed with this release LabFunk. Omar Hackett IUPUI University Library 755 W. Michigan Street, Rm: 1112 Indianapolis, IN 46202 317-278-2278 317-278-2300 (Fax) -----Original Message----- From: Oleg Vorobyov [mailto:oleg_vorobyov@ukr.net] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:15 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: [idm] Electronic jazz - is there anything like Flanger? I think that one of the frontlines of modern electronica is the intersection of electronic music with jazz. I'm not sure that this direction can be considered in frames of IDM, but anyway... There are many records that can be described as electronic jazz (or maybe "new jazz" is the right term), but none of them can (at my opinion) compare to FLANGER. I'd be thankful to hear some more names of modern electronic jazz, which are worth listening to (although I know some of them like Cinematic Orchestra, Amon Tobin, Up Bustle & Out). I'd be also glad to get a response from the other fan of modern electronic jazz. Sorry if this all is a bit off-topic. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Oleg Vorobyov wrote:

quoted 1 line I think that one of the frontlines of modern electronica is the intersection of electronic

> I think that one of the frontlines of modern electronica is the intersection of electronic music with jazz.

I couldn't agree more, and this has been one of the main directions of Digital Cutup Lounge, so I guess it's time for an unabashed plug here... The first DCL CD, Cutup Mixdown, is a DJ mix of techno/downtempo/drum'n'bass/ambient combined with live jazz improvisation and laptop noise. The second DCL CD, Network Effects, takes these ideas into a more abstract plane and has less jazz and more abstract electronic sound. Both of these CDs are released by Gogo, our Hong Kong-based record label and are not yet available in the US (only in Asia)...however, you can order them direct from Amazon. Network Effects is for sale at: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000065U9K/qid=1019499461/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-5611237-3378253 You can hear mp3s of some of our stuff on our website: http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com Our DCL live show is two laptops plus live jazz musicians, usually sax, keys, and drums at least though the lineup varies. I moved to LA about six months ago from Hong Kong and am currently sporadically doing shows in SoCal as Digital Cutup Lounge West, with a sax player (Andrew Pask) who processes his woodwind sounds live through MAX/MSP. John

quoted 5 lines I'm not sure that this direction can be considered in frames of IDM, but anyway... Th

> I'm not sure that this direction can be considered in frames of IDM, but anyway... There are many records that can be described as electronic jazz (or maybe "new jazz" is the right term), but none of them can (at my opinion) compare to FLANGER. I'd be thankful to hear some more names of modern electronic jazz, which are worth listening to (although I know some of them like Cinematic Orchestra, Amon Tobin, Up Bustle & Out). I'd be also glad to get a response from the other fan of modern electronic jazz. Sorry if this all is a bit off-topic. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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