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2001-07-03 01:58Pedro Cevallos [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to
└─ 2001-07-03 03:17Mxyzptlk Re: [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to
└─ 2001-07-03 02:24Adam Piontek RE: [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to
└─ 2001-07-03 03:54Mxyzptlk RE: [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to
2001-07-03 01:58Pedro Cevallos [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to
├─ 2001-07-03 02:41EggyToast Re: [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to
└─ 2001-07-07 08:54Otomi ;\) Re: [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to
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2001-07-04 11:19Anig Browl Re: [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to
└─ 2001-07-04 11:42Ben Kirkley Re: [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to
└─ 2001-07-05 21:18Guy Elden, Jr. Re: [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to
└─ 2001-07-05 21:58paul humphreys Re: [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to
└─ 2001-07-05 22:05paul humphreys [idm] Autechre - What Happened there then....
└─ 2001-07-05 22:55Ed Hall Re: [idm] Autechre - What Happened there then....
└─ 2001-07-06 07:38Paul Humphreys Re: [idm] Autechre - What Happened there then....
2001-07-04 12:23George Williamson Re: [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to
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2001-07-03 01:58Pedro CevallosDoes anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've heard 70 minutes of
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Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've heard 70 minutes of madness one time to many when I work out. Out of curiosity, what do you guys play when you exercise? Pedro Cevallos -- "...beginning in the fourteenth century, the clock made us into time-keepers, and then time-savers, and now time-servers. In the process, we have learned irreverence toward the sun and the seasons, for in a world made up of seconds and minutes, the authority of nature is superseded." -- Neil Postman -- http://www.geocities.com/mr_cevallos/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-03 03:17MxyzptlkI can think of SO many things to say to this. Instead I'll just wonder why. jeff At 08:58
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I can think of SO many things to say to this. Instead I'll just wonder why. jeff At 08:58 PM 7/2/2001, Pedro Cevallos wrote:
quoted 4 lines Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've>Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've >heard 70 minutes of madness one time to many when I work out. Out of >curiosity, what do you guys play when you exercise? >
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2001-07-03 02:24Adam PiontekI already asked this once. I asked about IDM exercise music. OK, not exactly the same, but
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I already asked this once. I asked about IDM exercise music. OK, not exactly the same, but come on, search the archives like a good boy! :P -Adam
quoted 26 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:jpklein@telocity.com] > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 11:18 PM > To: Pedro Cevallos; acid-jazz@ucsd.edu; ambient@hyperreal.org; > idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] DJ Mixes to exercise to > > > I can think of SO many things to say to this. Instead I'll just > wonder why. > jeff > > > > At 08:58 PM 7/2/2001, Pedro Cevallos wrote: > >Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've > >heard 70 minutes of madness one time to many when I work out. Out of > >curiosity, what do you guys play when you exercise? > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-07-03 03:54MxyzptlkLustmord. Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music. Fripp & Eno : No Pussyfooting. That should get t
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Lustmord. Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music. Fripp & Eno : No Pussyfooting. That should get the blood circulating. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-03 01:58Pedro CevallosDoes anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've heard 70 minutes of
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Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've heard 70 minutes of madness one time to many when I work out. Out of curiosity, what do you guys play when you exercise? Pedro Cevallos -- "...beginning in the fourteenth century, the clock made us into time-keepers, and then time-savers, and now time-servers. In the process, we have learned irreverence toward the sun and the seasons, for in a world made up of seconds and minutes, the authority of nature is superseded." -- Neil Postman -- http://www.geocities.com/mr_cevallos/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-03 02:41EggyToastAt 09:58 PM 7/2/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes
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At 09:58 PM 7/2/2001 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've>Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've >heard 70 minutes of madness one time to many when I work out. Out of >curiosity, what do you guys play when you exercise?
what's "exercise?" is that some new-age thing? heh, have your ginseng and exercise every day! it's *Organic!* count me out on *that* one cheers, /derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- now on the interweb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-07 08:54Otomi ;\)--- Pedro Cevallos <pedro_cevallos@hotmail.com> wrote: Fancy a dj aura mix? I could send y
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--- Pedro Cevallos <pedro_cevallos@hotmail.com> wrote: Fancy a dj aura mix? I could send you a copy just email me your address cheers, otomi ps....we miss beatcamp uptairs don't we? good times..
quoted 22 lines Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to> Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to > exercise to? I've > heard 70 minutes of madness one time to many when I > work out. Out of > curiosity, what do you guys play when you exercise? > > > > Pedro Cevallos > -- > "...beginning in the fourteenth century, the clock > made us into > time-keepers, and then time-savers, and now > time-servers. In the process, > we have learned irreverence toward the sun and the > seasons, for in a world > made up of seconds and minutes, the authority of > nature is superseded." > -- Neil Postman -- > http://www.geocities.com/mr_cevallos/ > >
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2001-07-03 16:49rdhouse@ilstu.edu>Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've >heard 70 minutes
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quoted 3 lines Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've>Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've >heard 70 minutes of madness one time to many when I work out. Out of >curiosity, what do you guys play when you exercise?
Kylie Minogue and Brit-cock-rock of Oasis. 80's music. Rated R --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-04 11:19Anig BrowlFrom: Pedro Cevallos <pedro_cevallos@hotmail.com> > Does anybody know any steady and uptem
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quoted 3 lines Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've> Does anybody know any steady and uptempo DJ mixes to exercise to? I've > heard 70 minutes of madness one time to many when I work out. Out of > curiosity, what do you guys play when you exercise?
Exercise?! No thanks. I do put on both IDM and psy trance and dance to it, which I guess helps keep me fit. But not in a formal way. If I need to burn off some major physical energy then I prefer a 4 to the floor track, if I just feel like moving to music then I might just as easily cut a rug to Confield. Anig Browl _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-04 11:42Ben Kirkley> Exercise?! No thanks. I do put on both IDM and psy trance and dance to it, > which I gue
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quoted 7 lines Exercise?! No thanks. I do put on both IDM and psy trance and dance to it,> Exercise?! No thanks. I do put on both IDM and psy trance and dance to it, > which I guess helps keep me fit. But not in a formal way. If I need to burn > off some major physical energy then I prefer a 4 to the floor track, if I > just feel like moving to music then I might just as easily cut a rug to > Confield. > > Anig Browl
I'm not much of a dancer, but for those of you who are help me out a minute. Exactly how would you dance to something like Confield? Do you just do a generic one-size-fits-all motion? Or do you move all limbs of your body in time to different parts of the song? Do you have to know the soundscape of the tune you're dancing to? Or are you able to predict what'll happen next (not easy with Autechre). It's not that I don't believe this music is danceable-to (without looking like a complete dork), I just can't visualise it myself. Can one dance to noise-IDM and not look like they're on a gram of speed? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-05 21:18Guy Elden, Jr.> I'm not much of a dancer, but for those of you who are help me out a minute. > Exactly h
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quoted 6 lines I'm not much of a dancer, but for those of you who are help me out a minute.> I'm not much of a dancer, but for those of you who are help me out a minute. > Exactly how would you dance to something like Confield? Do you just do a > generic one-size-fits-all motion? Or do you move all limbs of your body in > time to different parts of the song? Do you have to know the soundscape of > the tune you're dancing to? Or are you able to predict what'll happen next > (not easy with Autechre). It's not that I don't believe this music is
I think the basic motion that most people do to Confield consists of primarily arm and leg movements. Quick analyses of the songs by IDMAnalyze, which can be found at http://www.idmtools.com/idmanalyze reveals that the following pattern is most optimal: 1. While nodding head, squat down low to floor. 2. Bob up and down a few times by bending and extending knee joints. 3. Slowly separate thighs. 4. As arms flail about randomly, bring order to arm movements. 5. One arm approaches the joint where both thighs meet. 6. Arm inserts iself down shorts/jeans/pants/whatever. 7. Fingers grasp whatever they find. 8. Slow rhythmic movements are made as bobbing up and down resumes. 9. Continue for entire album, disregarding any bodily excretions that may occur. And most of all, ENJOY! -- jr --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-05 21:58paul humphreysConfield, oh how excited was I, another autechre album, mmm, can't wait, maybe it'll be an
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Confield, oh how excited was I, another autechre album, mmm, can't wait, maybe it'll be another, incunbala, tri repetae, or maybe even amber or the brilliant garbage..... imagine my dismay to find that it was to quote the infamous scottish comedy show chewin the fat "a lotta shite"... don't get me wrong i'm all for aural experimentation and abstract sounds but forgive me if i overstep the mark here... but i thought the point of IDM was in the title of the genre... I personally have experimented with abstract sounds and the loading sound from my old 48k Spectrum (Rubber Ket Version) but i never thought of sticking it out on CD and charging folks £12-14 quid for a coaster.... listening experience.... shit... why can;t the make music like they used to ... take gimmik for instance, early Autechre-esque, moved on in the right direction but utterly brilliant... Rant Over Paul on 5/7/01 10:18 pm, Guy Elden, Jr. at guyjr@gt.ed.net wrote:
quoted 24 lines I'm not much of a dancer, but for those of you who are help me out a minute.>> I'm not much of a dancer, but for those of you who are help me out a minute. >> Exactly how would you dance to something like Confield? Do you just do a >> generic one-size-fits-all motion? Or do you move all limbs of your body in >> time to different parts of the song? Do you have to know the soundscape of >> the tune you're dancing to? Or are you able to predict what'll happen next >> (not easy with Autechre). It's not that I don't believe this music is > > I think the basic motion that most people do to Confield consists of primarily > arm and leg movements. Quick analyses of the songs by IDMAnalyze, which can > be found at http://www.idmtools.com/idmanalyze reveals that the following > pattern is most optimal: > > 1. While nodding head, squat down low to floor. > 2. Bob up and down a few times by bending and extending knee joints. > 3. Slowly separate thighs. > 4. As arms flail about randomly, bring order to arm movements. > 5. One arm approaches the joint where both thighs meet. > 6. Arm inserts iself down shorts/jeans/pants/whatever. > 7. Fingers grasp whatever they find. > 8. Slow rhythmic movements are made as bobbing up and down resumes. > 9. Continue for entire album, disregarding any bodily excretions that may > occur. > > And most of all, ENJOY!
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2001-07-05 22:05paul humphreyson 5/7/01 10:58 pm, paul humphreys at paul@bluepeach.co.uk wrote: > Confield, oh how excit
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on 5/7/01 10:58 pm, paul humphreys at paul@bluepeach.co.uk wrote:
quoted 14 lines Confield, oh how excited was I, another autechre album, mmm, can't wait,> Confield, oh how excited was I, another autechre album, mmm, can't wait, > maybe it'll be another, incunbala, tri repetae, or maybe even amber or the > brilliant garbage..... imagine my dismay to find that it was to quote the > infamous scottish comedy show chewin the fat "a lotta shite"... don't get me > wrong i'm all for aural experimentation and abstract sounds but forgive me > if i overstep the mark here... but i thought the point of IDM was in the > title of the genre... I personally have experimented with abstract sounds > and the loading sound from my old 48k Spectrum (Rubber Ket Version) but i > never thought of sticking it out on CD and charging folks £12-14 quid for a > coaster.... listening experience.... shit... why can;t the make music like > they used to ... take gimmik for instance, early Autechre-esque, moved on in > the right direction but utterly brilliant... Rant Over > > Paul
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2001-07-05 22:55Ed HallWow! You just managed to combine the two of the all-time bandwidth-wasting subjects of the
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Wow! You just managed to combine the two of the all-time bandwidth-wasting subjects of the IDM list: 1) Why doesn't Autechre make good music any more? 2) What is IDM? The answers are: 1) They do. You just don't like it. Forget about them, and move on. It's silly to expect artists to keep producing the same stuff, no matter how "good" it is or how much you may like or dislike it. I've no doubt that Autechre could produce a worthy successor to Amber or Tri Repetae if they wanted to. But they obviously don't. Deal with it. 2) A mailing list. The initials may have referred to something long, long ago, but that's barely relevant now. The intelligence, danceability, and musicality of the recordings and performances discussed there are all debatable, but long experience teaches that such debates never go anywhere. Ever. Sorry. -Ed --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-06 07:38Paul Humphreyswell that's me told then, huh.... "IDM" I, don't actually remember asking what IDM meant a
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well that's me told then, huh.... "IDM" I, don't actually remember asking what IDM meant and who cares anyway, genres and labels are made up by people like me who work within the media, you see it's much easier to sell things when they have what is perceived to be a desirable label.... I joined this list because the label "IDM" allegedly fits my sphere of musical interests, not to be preached at... now where's my speedy j (a shocking hobby) cd I want some aural violence.... Paul
quoted 34 lines From: Ed Hall <edhall@weirdnoise.com>> From: Ed Hall <edhall@weirdnoise.com> > Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 15:55:28 -0700 > To: paul humphreys <paul@bluepeach.co.uk> > Cc: Intellectual Discussions Masturbatory <idm@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: [idm] Autechre - What Happened there then.... > > Wow! You just managed to combine the two of the all-time bandwidth-wasting > subjects of the IDM list: > > 1) Why doesn't Autechre make good music any more? > 2) What is IDM? > > The answers are: > > 1) They do. You just don't like it. Forget about them, and move on. > It's silly to expect artists to keep producing the same stuff, > no matter how "good" it is or how much you may like or dislike it. > I've no doubt that Autechre could produce a worthy successor to > Amber or Tri Repetae if they wanted to. But they obviously don't. > Deal with it. > > 2) A mailing list. The initials may have referred to something long, > long ago, but that's barely relevant now. The intelligence, > danceability, and musicality of the recordings and performances > discussed there are all debatable, but long experience teaches > that such debates never go anywhere. Ever. Sorry. > > -Ed > > > > > >
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2001-07-04 12:23George Williamson> I'm not much of a dancer, but for those of you who are help me out a minute. > Exactly h
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quoted 1 line I'm not much of a dancer, but for those of you who are help me out a> I'm not much of a dancer, but for those of you who are help me out a
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quoted 6 lines Exactly how would you dance to something like Confield? Do you just do a> Exactly how would you dance to something like Confield? Do you just do a > generic one-size-fits-all motion? Or do you move all limbs of your body in > time to different parts of the song? Do you have to know the soundscape of > the tune you're dancing to? Or are you able to predict what'll happen next > (not easy with Autechre). It's not that I don't believe this music is > danceable-to (without looking like a complete dork), I just can't
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quoted 1 line it myself. Can one dance to noise-IDM and not look like they're on a gram> it myself. Can one dance to noise-IDM and not look like they're on a gram
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quoted 1 line speed?> speed?
Nah, you just have to tune yor body to the music and get different parts to groove with the relevant parts of the music. Okay, so this does have the effect of making you look like you're having a siezure when you do it to confield, but it is the only way to dance to it. Drinking heavily "helps" this kind of coordination... Personally to excercise I love either tri-repetae or astroblaster (caustic window). Gary Moschles and Bogdan are also good georgewilliamson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-05 13:22Anig BrowlFrom: Ben Kirkley <ben.kirkley@displaypost.co.uk> > I'm not much of a dancer, but for thos
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quoted 1 line I'm not much of a dancer, but for those of you who are help me out a> I'm not much of a dancer, but for those of you who are help me out a
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quoted 1 line Exactly how would you dance to something like Confield?> Exactly how would you dance to something like Confield?
Well, it's hard to say. It's certainly not danceable like a 4 to the floor style, so I often don't know what to do with my legs, I just shift my weight around depending on how I'm feeling. I don't mind the unpredictability of the music, I think it allows for a very expressive and reactive sort of dance. I used to do mime when I was a kid so I like the idea of dance that expresses abstract feelings (which is why I hate the formalism of ballet).
quoted 1 line Do you have to know the soundscape of the tune you're dancing to?> Do you have to know the soundscape of the tune you're dancing to?
No, though most tracks are structured enough to get a feel early on. A tune like Clipper from Tri Repetae is very easy to dance to, for example, with a nice chunky rhythm to keep your legs busy and flowing sounds for your arms. OTOH a track like Cfern from Confield, with lots of angular and irregular beat structures, would encourage me to deal in more basic units of movement...for example a dance step can involve lifting your leg, rotating it, stepping back onto that leg, turning on ones ankle and so on. Where the beat is very fractured it's interesting to explore different combinations of those basic movements as you move around the floor. I'm usually conscious of 5 things when I dance to any music; my legs, my shoulders, my arms, my hands/fingers, and what my head is doing. Depending on the track different things will move around, though this is all much more spontaneous than it sounds here of course. I'm listening to Pen Expers now, one of my favorites. My legs are inclined to step me about following the kick, while my shoulders and elbows are moving about in response to the snare/noise, expressing something about the texture and intensity of the beats with angle and sweep of movement. Those lovely string sounds seem to be to trying to break through the chaos of the beats, so I'd tend to start making pinching motions with my fingers that remind me of trying to draw something out from a narrow space, and my head might be weaving about and looking up, down, over my shoulder, depending on the vague emotional tenor of the music. It all sounds terribly artificiail and calculated but it's not, I'm just allowing my body to move in response to what I am feeling in the music and express something non-verbally. This is why I much prefer instrumental music to vocal.
quoted 2 lines It's not that I don't believe this music is danceable-to (without looking> It's not that I don't believe this music is danceable-to (without looking > like a complete dork), I just can't visualise it myself.
Well, I guess to another person my movements look like a cross between a sped-up martial arts drill and schizophrenic spasms. So yes, I probably look like a spaz or a dork. But really, why should I give a fuck if it makes me feel good? When I was younger I used to go out to nightclubs and worry about how I was looking, whether there was any chance of getting laid or not, whether I was cool and so on. When I began going to raves it was a great relief to drop some acid along with everyone else and just go nuts to the music, and I still like psy trance a great deal for its sheer danceability and energy. After a while of doing this I stopped caring at all about how it looked to other people, beyond the basic politeness of not barging into other people's space when one is dancing. By the time I got into IDM I was at the stage where I could feel equally unrestrained physically with or without drugs - in fact I think I get more out of IDM when I'm sober in many ways. My feeling is that if one is having fun and just letting the music dictate one's movements, it's going to be far more comfortable and really expressive, and will probably look cool anyway. The people who would write me off as a spaz probably think that IDM is 'just noise' or spazzy music anyway, so I don't care about that. Kids dance around any way they like to music (and a lot of kids like techno) and as long as they don't fall over it's great. I'd much rather feel that unrestrained than try to impose consistency or form onto dance movements. I find dancing very relaxing and I really enjoy dancing with someone else at a party where you can communicate about the music, feelings, etc. without having to speak. I don't think of myself as any special dancer, but people come up to me quite frequently at parties and say they like the way I move around, so I must be doing something right.
quoted 1 line Can one dance to noise-IDM and not look like they're on a gram of speed?> Can one dance to noise-IDM and not look like they're on a gram of speed?
Well, no...though all the above can be equally applied to a slow or mellow track just as easily as a busy one. The first IDM party I went to, I had a great time but my girlfriend thought everyone was on speed for just this reason. Then again the first time she met me she thought I was on speed too (I put a lot of energy into dancing and I'm also pale and skinny), but she let me chat her up anyway. So don't worry about it. Just shake yer booty and have fun :-) Anig Browl _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-05 13:31Anig BrowlFrom: George Williamson <georgewilliamson@btinternet.com> > Drinking heavily "helps" this
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From: George Williamson <georgewilliamson@btinternet.com>
quoted 1 line Drinking heavily "helps" this kind of coordination...> Drinking heavily "helps" this kind of coordination...
I don't think booze mixes well with electronic music at all actually. I can usually tell what drugs someone is on at a party just from looking, and people who are a bit drunk just like they're stumbling about with no plan. They might feel more with it but actually their reactions and everything are way off. People who have smoked a lot of pot often wind up dancing with themselves, eg getting terribly interested in their own hand movements and the like. E-tards are trying to impress everyone else with their cool moves and show how sensual they are. Speed/coke heads look all twitchy and seem to feel that it's terribly important they keep up the pace. Acidheads are trying to maintain a grip on reality and simultanesouly express the great truth that the music has just revealed to them. Sober folks are either trying to disco-dance and getting confused or are just standing around nodding their heads at how cool it is, or shaking them at how weird it is. Of course these are the extreme (and not entirely serious) examples, and most people find somewhere in between where they are comfortable and in touch with a group vibe. Seriously though, I do think that booze and E tend to make people feel like they're having a wonderful time but not lose perspective on themselves (eg keeping out of other people's space etc.) and afterwards they remember they had fun but it's all a bit of a blur. The body load of this combined with a night of dancing is also fairly severe. Anig Browl _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org