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2000-06-29 17:24Matthew GuestIf I were going to acquire something by Cylob, any suggestions for a must-have? What's a g

From:: Matthew Guest <mguest@alphagraphics.com>
To:: Intelligent Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:24:19 -0500
Subject:: [idm] Cylob

If I were going to acquire something by Cylob, any suggestions for a must-have? What's a good one to start out with? -matT --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-06-29 17:28Brian MacDonaldThe obvious choice would be "Rewind"... it's his big novelty hit. Otherwise, "Lobster Trac

From:: Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org>
To:: Intelligent Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:28:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] Cylob
Reply to:: [idm] Cylob

The obvious choice would be "Rewind"... it's his big novelty hit. Otherwise, "Lobster Tracks" (the latest release as far as I know) is quite slammin'... "Latest Effort" from '97 is pretty damn great too... ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> KUCI 88.9 fM in Irvine, CA -- Orange County ======================================================================= On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Matthew Guest wrote:

quoted 11 lines If I were going to acquire something by Cylob, any suggestions for a

> If I were going to acquire something by Cylob, any suggestions for a > must-have? What's a good one to start out with? > > -matT > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2000-06-29 18:01Josh Davisonpersonally i think Rewind 12" is super dope but I also liked Cylobian Sunrise quite a bit

From:: Josh Davison <yoshi@enteract.com>
To:: Matthew Guest <mguest@alphagraphics.com>
Cc:: Intelligent Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:01:57 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] Cylob
Reply to:: [idm] Cylob

personally i think Rewind 12" is super dope but I also liked Cylobian Sunrise quite a bit ... all his stuff is worth checking out for at least one or two tracks, maybe that "living in the 1980's" is a little weak but it captures the 1980's aesthetic rather well... josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Matthew Guest wrote:

quoted 11 lines If I were going to acquire something by Cylob, any suggestions for a

> If I were going to acquire something by Cylob, any suggestions for a > must-have? What's a good one to start out with? > > -matT > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2000-06-29 18:25Ross BalmerI thought Living in the 1980s was unspeakably awful. For really good 80's retro best check

From:: Ross Balmer <ross@tui.co.uk>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:25:20 +0100
Subject:: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)

I thought Living in the 1980s was unspeakably awful. For really good 80's retro best check Adult and anything else on Ersatz Audio. Also I love Miss Kittin and The Hacker on Gigolo records - Frank Sinatra on International DJ Gigolos 2 and the Champagne! ep is marvellous. I have G.D. Luxxe - Submission which is good, it sounds like New Order. Even the title sounds like New Order. Fourteen Zero Zero by Console is also great. What else is good 80s style stuff? What're I-F like? I have their mix cd and that is great. It has a track by Alden Tyrell that I really like, is his other stuff that good? Cheers, Ross. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Davison" <yoshi@enteract.com>

quoted 2 lines maybe that "living in the 1980's" is a little weak but

> maybe that "living in the 1980's" is a little weak but > it captures the 1980's aesthetic rather well...

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2000-06-29 18:32Attila SchmidtAt 07:25 PM 6/29/00 +0100, you wrote: >I thought Living in the 1980s was unspeakably awful

From:: Attila Schmidt <schmalma@home.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:32:57 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)
Reply to:: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)

At 07:25 PM 6/29/00 +0100, you wrote:

quoted 2 lines I thought Living in the 1980s was unspeakably awful. For really good 80's

>I thought Living in the 1980s was unspeakably awful. For really good 80's >retro best check Adult and anything else on Ersatz Audio.

livin in the 80's and adult are hardly comparable, cylob was going for the cheese factor..more like 80's pop, whereas adult isn't about cheese, they're all about pumpin electro grooves. if you're gonna compare livin in the 80's to anything it would be better to compare it to a lot of ed dmx's material

quoted 3 lines What else is good 80s style stuff? What're I-F like? I have their mix cd and

>What else is good 80s style stuff? What're I-F like? I have their mix cd and >that is great. It has a track by Alden Tyrell that I really like, is his >other stuff that good?

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2000-06-29 18:36Josh Davisonsee the thing is, why bother with trying to find currently produced stuff that sounds like

From:: Josh Davison <yoshi@enteract.com>
To:: Ross Balmer <ross@tui.co.uk>
Cc:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:36:31 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)
Reply to:: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)

see the thing is, why bother with trying to find currently produced stuff that sounds like 1980's music when there's plenty of really awesome 80's stuff already out there in the used bins at your local record shop? i mean i guess there's that late-90's "irony" factor but that got played out with all the gap ads in my opinion. my 80's favorites: Toto IV (home to 'Rosanna' and 'Africa') ... david paich is a synth monster. love it Michael Jackson's Thriller -- nothing ironic about it, this album is fantastic. listen to it again for the first time. and yes, i think it falls into IDM in a loose sense of the term Thomas Dolby -- She Blinded Me With Science. yow. extra props for the Kraftwerk nods in this one. See also "Mr. magic's Wand" by Whodini, which was also produced by Mr. Dolby. I know he produced other early rap stuff, I wish I knew more. Afrikaa Bambataa -- Planet Rock. yeah, yeah, he jacked it all from kraftwerk but goddamn he knows how to jack right, don't he now. New Order of course Depeche Mode of course stop me before i list again -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Ross Balmer wrote:

quoted 28 lines I thought Living in the 1980s was unspeakably awful. For really good 80's

> I thought Living in the 1980s was unspeakably awful. For really good 80's > retro best check Adult and anything else on Ersatz Audio. Also I love Miss > Kittin and The Hacker on Gigolo records - Frank Sinatra on International DJ > Gigolos 2 and the Champagne! ep is marvellous. I have G.D. Luxxe - > Submission which is good, it sounds like New Order. Even the title sounds > like New Order. Fourteen Zero Zero by Console is also great. > > What else is good 80s style stuff? What're I-F like? I have their mix cd and > that is great. It has a track by Alden Tyrell that I really like, is his > other stuff that good? > > Cheers, > Ross. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh Davison" <yoshi@enteract.com> > > > > maybe that "living in the 1980's" is a little weak but > > it captures the 1980's aesthetic rather well... > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2000-06-29 20:32Matthew Guest>This takes the cake for Most Recently Really Silly Thing Said On IDM-L. I didn't think th

From:: Matthew Guest <mguest@alphagraphics.com>
To:: Intelligent Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:32:13 -0500
Subject:: RE: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)
Reply to:: Re: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)

quoted 1 line This takes the cake for Most Recently Really Silly Thing Said On IDM-L.

>This takes the cake for Most Recently Really Silly Thing Said On IDM-L.

I didn't think the reply was "silly". I think it was a good reminder to look back and give another listen to older stuff that helped shape and influence what we have now. I also agree that that stuff stands on it's own. Just because it's not IDM, doesn't mean it's stupid to look at it with wonder for the artistry that's in there. ya know? anywayz. cheers.matT --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-06-29 20:37Josh Davisonactually having reviewed my comments, i have to plead no contest. it was a silly thing to

From:: Josh Davison <yoshi@enteract.com>
To:: Matthew Guest <mguest@alphagraphics.com>
Cc:: Intelligent Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:37:41 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: RE: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)
Reply to:: RE: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)

actually having reviewed my comments, i have to plead no contest. it was a silly thing to say. but Thriller is fucking awesome. Off The Wall is IDM though. "So toniiiiight / gonna leave the 9 to 5 up on the shelf / and just enjoy yourself " Live your life off the wall, kids. -- String Theory : Jackin Jackson Beats http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Matthew Guest wrote:

quoted 19 lines This takes the cake for Most Recently Really Silly Thing Said On IDM-L.

> >This takes the cake for Most Recently Really Silly Thing Said On IDM-L. > > I didn't think the reply was "silly". I think it was a good reminder to look > back and give another listen to older stuff that helped shape and influence > what we have now. I also agree that that stuff stands on it's own. Just > because it's not IDM, doesn't mean it's stupid to look at it with wonder for > the artistry that's in there. > > ya know? > anywayz. > > cheers.matT > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2000-06-29 21:12Jeff PitrmanAt 03:32 PM 6/29/00 -0500, Matthew Guest wrote: > >This takes the cake for Most Recently R

From:: Jeff Pitrman <jeff@spof.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:12:34 -0700
Subject:: RE: [idm] 80s retro
Reply to:: RE: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)

At 03:32 PM 6/29/00 -0500, Matthew Guest wrote:

quoted 7 lines This takes the cake for Most Recently Really Silly Thing Said On IDM-L.

> >This takes the cake for Most Recently Really Silly Thing Said On IDM-L. > >I didn't think the reply was "silly". I think it was a good reminder to look >back and give another listen to older stuff that helped shape and influence >what we have now. I also agree that that stuff stands on it's own. Just >because it's not IDM, doesn't mean it's stupid to look at it with wonder for >the artistry that's in there.

Michael Jackson was popular for a reason. He knew how to write very good pop music, and then millions of people threw money at him. But that first post was completely silly. In what way is Michael Jackson at all IDM? Relatedly, why do so many people constantly remind the IDM list at large to listen to music besides IDM? I don't know a single person into the big, ameoba-like, nebulous genre known as IDM who doesn't have pretty diverse tastes in music. Just because people try to keep the list conversation vaguely topical doesn't mean that the bright and glorious past of unrelated music is somehow being dissed. It's one of those things I wonder about the list, every once in a while At 03:37 PM 6/29/00 -0500, Josh Davison wrote:

quoted 1 line but Thriller is fucking awesome.

>but Thriller is fucking awesome.

What about Bad? The title track was catchy. I guess the rest of it was pretty dumb, in hindsight. Related to that, I agree with a previous poster about the whole nouveau-80s thing. Irony is gay. ---- "It warms my heart that you don't know what crates are." jeff@spof.net -OMM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-06-29 21:33Matthew Guest> In what way is Michael Jackson at all IDM? Sure. I think we all agree on that. -matT ---

From:: Matthew Guest <mguest@alphagraphics.com>
To:: Jeff Pitrman <jeff@spof.net>
Cc:: Intelligent Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:33:04 -0500
Subject:: RE: [idm] 80s retro
Reply to:: RE: [idm] 80s retro

quoted 1 line In what way is Michael Jackson at all IDM?

> In what way is Michael Jackson at all IDM?

Sure. I think we all agree on that. -matT --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-06-29 20:04helmut auf den Zackboomvollgas> What else is good 80s style stuff? you might want to check out the Electrophysix compila

From:: helmut auf den Zackboomvollgas <tchrk@gmx.de>
To:: Ross Balmer <ross@tui.co.uk>
Cc:: plickety pluck the knob got stuck <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:04:33 +0200
Subject:: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)
Reply to:: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)

quoted 1 line What else is good 80s style stuff?

> What else is good 80s style stuff?

you might want to check out the Electrophysix compilation, which was released last October I believe. I have forgotten the name of the label and the cd is loaned out right now, but it includes two tracks by Miss Kitten and the Hacker, one being Frank Sinatra (saw her spin last weekend- lovely, eclectic set but she neglected to whip out "People Are Still Having Sex" much to my disappoinment), as well as Dopplereffekt's "Porno Actress" and some other greats along the same vein. Sorry for the lack of specifics on this one, you can probably still get the cd or more info from david at pbe (pbe@rt66.com). susan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-06-29 20:17Brian MacDonaldIf you want good 80s sounding electro, go back to the real thing. Dynamix, Unknown DJ, DJ

From:: Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)
Reply to:: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)

If you want good 80s sounding electro, go back to the real thing. Dynamix, Unknown DJ, DJ Extraordinaire and the Bassedelic Boom Patrol... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-06-29 18:39wells@submute.netUh.. er.. uh.. what? This takes the cake for Most Recently Really Silly Thing Said On IDM-

From:: wells@submute.net <wells@submute.net>
To:: yoshi@enteract.com <yoshi@enteract.com>, ross@tui.co.uk <ross@tui.co.uk>, idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:39:51 -0400
Subject:: Re: Re: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)

Uh.. er.. uh.. what? This takes the cake for Most Recently Really Silly Thing Said On IDM-L. Dudes, I just picked up this Travis Tritt record and gawddamn, the sumbitch is kind of IDM in my sense of the term! Original Message: ----------------- From: Josh Davison yoshi@enteract.com Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:36:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob) Michael Jackson's Thriller -- nothing ironic about it, this album is fantastic. listen to it again for the first time. and yes, i think it falls into IDM in a loose sense of the term ------------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been posted from Mail2Web http://www.mail2web.com/ Web Hosting for $9.95 per month! Visit: http://www.yourhosting.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-06-29 20:40wells@submute.netUhm, did you read the reply? He said that Michael Jackson's thriller was IDM in a sense, a

From:: wells@submute.net <wells@submute.net>
To:: mguest@alphagraphics.com <mguest@alphagraphics.com>, idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:40:18 -0400
Subject:: Re: RE: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)

Uhm, did you read the reply? He said that Michael Jackson's thriller was IDM in a sense, and I told him that he was wildly incorrect. So your assertion about it not being IDM only backs my claim. Thanks. Original Message: ----------------- From: Matthew Guest mguest@alphagraphics.com Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:32:13 -0500 Subject: RE: [idm] 80s retro (was Re: [idm] Cylob)

quoted 1 line This takes the cake for Most Recently Really Silly Thing Said On IDM-L.

>This takes the cake for Most Recently Really Silly Thing Said On IDM-L.

I didn't think the reply was "silly". I think it was a good reminder to look back and give another listen to older stuff that helped shape and influence what we have now. I also agree that that stuff stands on it's own. Just because it's not IDM, doesn't mean it's stupid to look at it with wonder for the artistry that's in there. ya know? anywayz. cheers.matT --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org ------------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been posted from Mail2Web http://www.mail2web.com/ Web Hosting for $9.95 per month! Visit: http://www.yourhosting.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org