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just a quick message to the masses NovaMute's first Luke Slater album is due out in October. it's a fantastic album, just what you'd expect from Luke Slater - always and still one of the best. But it is not NovaMute's album, and they deserve to see absolutely no profit from it. without getting into too much detail or being too political, you should be aware that NovaMute stole Slater away from GPR without GPR's consent - and after Wayne (Mr. GPR) had already paid Slater a ?12,000 advance for the album! Slater is still under contract to GPR and, technically, has no right to be recording for NovaMute. the whole situation is currently in the hands of Wayne's lawyers, and hopefully we'll see justice. GPR has remained so defiantly and resolutely independent - to let Mute walk all over them is unconscionable! i have two advance copies of the _Freek Funk_ CD - and i've literally broken both in half after learning this. i refuse to write about or review this album. i BESEECH you to consider everything GPR has done for us (The Black Dog is merely the beginning!) and refuse _Freek Funk_ a single word of press (you other writers out there) or a cent of your money. thank you. long live GPR! GuerillaG2-G4/ gg np: X-ecutioners - X-pressions (Asphodel) (in a word? X-traordinary!)

gg2g4ink@sprynet.com wrote:

quoted 20 lines just a quick message to the masses

> just a quick message to the masses > > NovaMute's first Luke Slater album is due out in October. it's a fantastic > album, just what you'd expect from Luke Slater - always and still one of the > best. > > But it is not NovaMute's album, and they deserve to see absolutely no profit > from it. without getting into too much detail or being too political, you should > be aware that NovaMute stole Slater away from GPR without GPR's consent - and > after Wayne (Mr. GPR) had already paid Slater a £12,000 advance for the album! > Slater is still under contract to GPR and, technically, has no right to be > recording for NovaMute. the whole situation is currently in the hands of Wayne's > lawyers, and hopefully we'll see justice. GPR has remained so defiantly and > resolutely independent - to let Mute walk all over them is unconscionable! > > i have two advance copies of the _Freek Funk_ CD - and i've literally broken > both in half after learning this. i refuse to write about or review this album. > i BESEECH you to consider everything GPR has done for us (The Black Dog is > merely the beginning!) and refuse _Freek Funk_ a single word of press (you other > writers out there) or a cent of your money.

I'm sorry, I don't quite understand. Luke took the money. He could have said no. Who should we boycott? Your going to have to be a bit more clear, since from your post, it sounds like Luke Slater is the one that fucked GPR. word out, brock out.

At 09:22 AM 9/9/97 -0700, you wrote:

quoted 7 lines just a quick message to the masses

>just a quick message to the masses > >NovaMute's first Luke Slater album is due out in October. it's a fantastic >album, just what you'd expect from Luke Slater - always and still one of the >best. i have two advance copies of the _Freek Funk_ CD - and i've >literally broken both in half after learning this. >

It's a great lp but gg2g4ink (Gil Gershman) physically breaks it? That's intelligent. I'm sure nova mute will continue sending gg2g4ink (Gil Gershman) promotional material after reading how well you treat it.

quoted 2 lines But it is not NovaMute's album, and they deserve to see absolutely no profit

>But it is not NovaMute's album, and they deserve to see absolutely no profit >from it. without getting into too much detail or being too political, you

should

quoted 1 line be aware that NovaMute stole Slater away from GPR without GPR's consent -

>be aware that NovaMute stole Slater away from GPR without GPR's consent -

and

quoted 1 line after Wayne (Mr. GPR) had already paid Slater a £12,000 advance for the

>after Wayne (Mr. GPR) had already paid Slater a £12,000 advance for the

album!

quoted 2 lines Slater is still under contract to GPR and, technically, has no right to be

>Slater is still under contract to GPR and, technically, has no right to be >recording for NovaMute. the whole situation is currently in the hands of

Wayne's

quoted 3 lines lawyers, and hopefully we'll see justice. GPR has remained so defiantly and

>lawyers, and hopefully we'll see justice. GPR has remained so defiantly and >resolutely independent - to let Mute walk all over them is unconscionable! >

GPR dropped the ball by not releasing anything new in ages. If I submitted a release to a label and had to wait a year for it to be released then i would consider taking it elsewhere as well. Besides, if you want to blame somebody shouldn't gg2g4ink (Gil Gershman) blame Luke Slater for accepting the deal? After all, he is the one who shopped his material to other labels. Nova Mute just accepted what he submitted. Nova Mute may not have even know of Slater's other obligations. Looks like gg2g4ink (Gil Gershman) is blaming the messegner again. I'll agree that artists have some responsibility to the labels that sign them but the labels also have a responsibility to release the material submitted to them in a timely fashion. It doesn't appear that GPR did that. But, from the look of the promos that gg2g4ink (Gil Gershman) is treating with effigy, it looks like Nova Mute is releasing material in a timely fashion.

quoted 1 line i refuse to write about or review this album.

> i refuse to write about or review this album.

Too late, gg2g4ink (Gil Gershman) already did. np: Luke Slater: Freek Funk Cheers! -->-Lance--- p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states

mclance (Lance McGannon) wrote:

quoted 4 lines GPR dropped the ball by not releasing anything new in

>GPR dropped the ball by not releasing anything new in >ages. If I submitted a release to a label and had to >wait a year for it to be released then i would consider >taking it elsewhere as well.

if you only knew as much as you think you know, mclance (Lance McGannon)! there's much more to this story than i'm telling here. i simplified it. unfortunately, it's anything BUT simple.

quoted 2 lines Besides, if you want to blame somebody shouldn't gg2g4ink

>Besides, if you want to blame somebody shouldn't gg2g4ink >(Gil Gershman) blame Luke Slater for accepting the deal?

i most certainly do! he and Mute are both guilty.

quoted 4 lines After all, he is the one who shopped his material to other

>After all, he is the one who shopped his material to other >labels. Nova Mute just accepted what he submitted. Nova Mute >may not have even know of Slater's other obligations. Looks >like gg2g4ink (Gil Gershman) is blaming the messegner again.

[Mute] are very much aware of the situation! now compare Mute and GPR in terms of size... they probably think that they can walk all over GPR and get away with it. the horrible thing is... they probably can. but GPR isn't about to lay down and die, either. here's the question: did Slater have the RIGHT to shop an album to another label when GPR had already paid him for it?

quoted 6 lines I'll agree that artists have some responsibility to the

>I'll agree that artists have some responsibility to the >labels that sign them but the labels also have a responsibility >to release the material submitted to them in a timely fashion. >It doesn't appear that GPR did that. But, from the look of the >promos that gg2g4ink (Gil Gershman) is treating with effigy, it >looks like Nova Mute is releasing material in a timely fashion.

Nova Mute is releasing a record which is NOT THEIRS TO RELEASE! that is wrong. why is this so difficult to comprehend, mclance (Lance McGannon)?! np: CS&N - "guinnevere"

quoted 4 lines Nova Mute is releasing a record which is NOT THEIRS TO RELEASE!

> Nova Mute is releasing a record which is NOT THEIRS TO RELEASE! > that is wrong. > > why is this so difficult to comprehend, mclance (Lance McGannon)?!

I don't think it's a problem with comprehension. More likely people either don't believe that the situation is as straightforward as you claim it is, or simply don't care. If GPR really did sit on the album for a year without releasing it, I don't have much sympathy for them, regardless of any formal legal obligation Slater might have to them. He may have a *moral* obligation to repay his advance but nothing beyond that (and not even that if his contract with GPR said that rights to album would revert to him under certain conditions he believes have been met). Too many tiny indies are willing to use their size as an excuse to mistreat their artists -- I'm certainly not going to assume that GPR is in the right just because Daniel Miller has more money than they do! -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists

At 02:43 PM 9/9/97 -0700, gg2g4ink@sprynet.com (Gil Gershman) wrote:

quoted 12 lines mclance (Lance McGannon) wrote:

> >mclance (Lance McGannon) wrote: > >>GPR dropped the ball by not releasing anything new in >>ages. If I submitted a release to a label and had to >>wait a year for it to be released then i would consider >>taking it elsewhere as well. > >if you only knew as much as you think you know, mclance! >there's much more to this story than i'm telling here. >i simplified it. unfortunately, it's anything BUT simple. >

Since gg2g4ink@sprynet.com aka bloodrush7@aol.com (Gil Gershman) says there is something else going on here that he cannot talk about I fwded all these messages to novamute and asked them to comment on them. i will post their reply to these accusations to the idm as soon as i get one. We'll see how "simple" the situation really is.

quoted 6 lines Besides, if you want to blame somebody shouldn't gg2g4ink

>>Besides, if you want to blame somebody shouldn't gg2g4ink >>(Gil Gershman) blame Luke Slater for accepting the deal? > >i most certainly do! >he and Mute are both guilty. >

If slater is so guilty why are is gg2g4ink@sprynet.com aka bloodrush7@aol.com (Gil Gershman) focusing all the blame and calls for boycott to just novamute? why not call for a boycott of all of slaters releases? should we boycott peacefrog, djax, irdial, jelly jam, kudos and gpr as well because he releases on those labels too? and maybe we should boycott all the labels luke slater does remixes for like harthouse, r&s, internal, and cosmic? supposedly he's guilty too right? he should pay for the crime that gg2g4ink@sprynet.com aka bloodrush7@aol.com (Gil Gershman) accuses him of.

quoted 5 lines After all, he is the one who shopped his material to other

>>After all, he is the one who shopped his material to other >>labels. Nova Mute just accepted what he submitted. Nova Mute >>may not have even know of Slater's other obligations. Looks >>like gg2g4ink (Gil Gershman) is blaming the messegner again. >

quoted 14 lines here's the question:

>here's the question: >did Slater have the RIGHT to shop an album to >another label when GPR had already paid him for it? > >>I'll agree that artists have some responsibility to the >>labels that sign them but the labels also have a responsibility >>to release the material submitted to them in a timely fashion. >>It doesn't appear that GPR did that. But, from the look of the >>promos that gg2g4ink (Gil Gershman) is treating with effigy, it >>looks like Nova Mute is releasing material in a timely fashion. > >Nova Mute is releasing a record which is NOT THEIRS TO RELEASE! >that is wrong. >

Come to think of it, Luke Slater releases material on the GPR label under the guises of 7th Plain and Morganistic NOT as Luke Slater. So it might be that GPR does not have the right to this release because it came out under his Luke Slater guise not under the guises that he formerly used for his GPR releases. Or does gg2g4ink@sprynet.com aka bloodrush7@aol.com (Gil Gershman) think that every luke slater release is supposed to come out on GPR? If that's the case then we need to get on Peacefrog's case because Luke releases his Planetary Assault Systems, Deputy Dawg and Luke Slater material there as well.

quoted 2 lines why is this so difficult to comprehend, mclance (Lance McGannon)?!

>why is this so difficult to comprehend, mclance (Lance McGannon)?! >

It seems like the comprehension problem is with gg2g4ink@sprynet.com aka bloodrush7@aol.com (Gil Gershman). But we will see how nova mute comprehends the accusations of gg2g4ink@sprynet.com aka bloodrush7@aol.com (Gil Gershman) for the final word on this situation. i will post their response as soon as i get it. np: Freq: Xirtam 2 (kenny larkin remix) I must be going daft in my old age! Cheers! -->-Lance--- p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states