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Anyone heard the newest LP by The Modernist (J. Burger) on Popular Organization? How is it? Also, I just saw a brand new Profan release by W. Voigt. Anyone heard it? I never heard much after his last Studio 1 12" (with the pic. sleeve) either... Finally, why is it so freaking hard to find Kompakt 12"s in San Francisco? This just doesn't make sense. phil

In a message dated 1/16/00 2:29:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, psherburne@mindspring.com writes: << Anyone heard the newest LP by The Modernist (J. Burger) on Popular Organization? How is it? Absolutely awesome, top three releases of 1999 (couldn't believe it didn't make most people's lists). Jorg Burger is just about uncontested in Cologne, and has really good quality control (well, at least in the past three years). Also, I just saw a brand new Profan release by W. Voigt. Anyone heard it? I never heard much after his last Studio 1 12" (with the pic. sleeve) either... How different can a Mike Ink 12" on Profan be? Expect about three sounds combined into one hook repeated for five minutes, and expect this to be done four times. Finally, why is it so freaking hard to find Kompakt 12"s in San Francisco? This just doesn't make sense. phil >> Considering they're all over the Internet mail order places, they shouldn't be hard to acquire somewhere. http://www.fe.org/labels/kompakt.germany.html is a good place to start. Highlights: Dettinger: Intershop CD Should win the IDM poll best of 1999. If not, it's just because 75% of the voters haven't bought it. Kompakt - Total 1 CD More than enough Kompakt for most humans. Even more so than other genres of electronic music I'd say Cologne-related material is really incredibly similar. Dettinger, Jorg Burger, some Air Liquide, some Sturm and some Gas is about all that's noteworthy: the rest of it is just horribly mediocre. It's like what Harold Bloom said about only having so much time in life to read books. You only have so much time in life to listen to music. Why waste it listening to yet another Cologne 12" when you can hear Black Dog, Derrick May or Basic Channel for the fiftieth time? Why listen to a mediocre Carl Craig or John Beltran record when their excellent ones are just inches away on your record shelf? Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 03:25 PM 1/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:

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>In a message dated 1/16/00 2:29:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, >psherburne@mindspring.com writes: > ><< Anyone heard the newest LP by The Modernist (J. Burger) on Popular >Organization? How is it? > >Absolutely awesome, top three releases of 1999 >(couldn't believe it didn't make most people's >lists). Jorg Burger is just about uncontested in >Cologne, and has really good quality control (well, >at least in the past three years).

I thought the new Modernist album was pretty good but only for a few tracks at a time. I didnt find enough variety on Explosion to hold my attention for an extended period of time. I feel that his Opportunity Knox album from a few years ago is better.

quoted 8 lines Also, I just saw a brand new Profan release by W. Voigt. Anyone heard it?

> Also, I just saw a brand new Profan release by W. Voigt. Anyone heard it? >I never heard much after his last Studio 1 12" (with the pic. sleeve) >either... > >How different can a Mike Ink 12" on Profan be? >Expect about three sounds combined into one >hook repeated for five minutes, and expect this >to be done four times.

I wholehearted disagree with this statement. The style of mike ink's releases do indeed vary from release to release. you may not be aware that mike ink is responsible for over half of the profan releases under a variety of guises includuing, M:I:5, Gas, Digital, Pentax, Studio 1, W.Voigt, Grungerman, All, Wassermann, and Mike Ink. The new Voigt release on Profan is the Wasserman 12" called W.I.R. It retains it's mininal cologne techno roots while adding a bit of minimal housey funk similar to Voigt's All ep released earlier this year on Profan. -->-Lance--- lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

In a message dated 1/16/00 4:15:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, lance@inaudible.com writes: << I wholehearted disagree with this statement. The style of mike ink's releases do indeed vary from release to release. you may not be aware that mike ink is responsible for over half of the profan releases under a variety of guises includuing, M:I:5, Gas, Digital, Pentax, Studio 1, W.Voigt, Grungerman, All, Wassermann, and Mike Ink. How would I not know that? I've done my Mike Ink homework. Pentax, BTW, is Reinhard Voight. Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

In a message dated 1/17/00 3:19:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, jetjag@MailAndNews.com writes: << Note that Matt did say "on Profan". I'd agree with him to the extent that structurally all the stuff I've heard by Voigt is virtually identical (Profan or not). On Profan I've also found any variations in the kinds of sounds and feel fairly minimal. Michael >> That's basically what I meant. While he may choose more ambient, more tech-house, more dub, more whatever sort of musical notes to play, they all work in that same sequence, which is why he's a very limited producer. All his records are like working off a blueprint, he just plugs in different sounds. Even the Gas stuff is just his Profan/Auftrieb/etc. style with a huge echoing boom effect over the top. If you like his style, you like his style, but Studio 1 really is something just about anybody could produce and his Profan/Freiland/ whatever stuff is only a couple notches removed. I suppose you could make the argument that anyone could paint a Rothko or a Klee or a Pollock as well, and that the technical aspects of the work have to be separated from the effect and the ideology, but...whatever. Matt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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