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Roy Badami muttered something about... :: ::I never got round to buying the Amorphous Androgynous 12" and LP when ::they came out, and now I'm regretting it. I guess the 12" is gonna be ::hard to find, but I was rather surprized to be told by my local record ::shop that the vinyl release of the LP has been deleted.....??? I'm sure this is old news. Doesn't calling something (both releases being an entire album) a LP imply that it's on vinyl? I always thought that since LP = long-play(ing) that the long-play characteristic meant it was on vinyl. Anyone? Don't end up as road-kill on the info super-highway. Create your own historical marker. ____________________________________________________ steve j. white aragorn@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu

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quoted 4 lines I'm sure this is old news. Doesn't calling something (both releases being

>I'm sure this is old news. Doesn't calling something (both releases being >an entire album) a LP imply that it's on vinyl? I always thought that since >LP = long-play(ing) that the long-play characteristic meant it was on vinyl. >Anyone?

So why do I have so many CD's that have 'EP' in the title? Just because the original reasons for the distinction don't all cross over into the digital realm doesn't mean the distinction doesn't still exist, or that the terminology of vinyl isn't just as useful applied to CD. Do you get angry when people call a 33 RPM record an "album," because it's supposed to refer to a set of 78's? C. -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] "...you can get a similar thrill from peeing into a toilet with blue water and watching it turn green." - mhargrea@cwis.unomaha.edu, on the color- changing "Incrediberry" flavor, in alt.drinks.kool-aid.

Steve J. White writes:

quoted 9 lines Roy Badami muttered something about...

>Roy Badami muttered something about... >:: >::I never got round to buying the Amorphous Androgynous 12" and LP when >::they came out, and now I'm regretting it. I guess the 12" is gonna be >::hard to find, but I was rather surprized to be told by my local record >::shop that the vinyl release of the LP has been deleted.....??? > >I'm sure this is old news. Doesn't calling something (both releases being >an entire album) a LP imply that it's on vinyl? I always thought that

since

quoted 1 line LP = long-play(ing) that the long-play characteristic meant it was on

>LP = long-play(ing) that the long-play characteristic meant it was on

vinyl.

quoted 1 line Anyone?

>Anyone?

This is one of those language things where there is NOT any consistent good terms anymore. I've always liked "album" meaning a collection of songs/tracks, just like a photo "album". However, people persist in identifying "album", "record" and "LP" with the 12-inch vinyl full-length thingy. Which leaves no word to cover the collection of tracks independant of format. AND, further muddying the waters: I just received a "full length" full price :-) CD which was 32 minutes. Whereas I own 3 The Prodigy CD "singles" all of which are longer than 32 minutes, but cost half as much as this "full length" CD... In terms of your specific question, "12-inch" means vinyl "single" and "LP" means about 40 minute long 12-inch vinyl. So "the vinyl release of the LP has been deleted" is indeed redundant. BUT, what could he say? "The vinyl release of the oogbleck has been deleted"? respect, Ken Ken.Stuart@tigerteam.org --- * UniQWK v2.0 * The Windows Mail Reader / Tiger Team Buddhist Information Network / / Modem (510) 268-0102 info@tigerteam.org /

quoted 3 lines "LP" means about 40 minute long 12-inch vinyl. So "the vinyl release of

> "LP" means about 40 minute long 12-inch vinyl. So "the vinyl release of > the LP has been deleted" is indeed redundant. BUT, what could he say? > "The vinyl release of the oogbleck has been deleted"?

Actually, it was a bit of a braino. If I'd been thinking, I'd have said "the vinyl release of the album". Of course, as someone else on this list pointed out, the original meaning of "album" is a collection of 78's. (An album, being too long to fit on a single disc, came as a pack of several 78's.) Cosmic

quoted 11 lines Too long to fit on a single "disc"? Did they have CDs way back then?

> > > > Too long to fit on a single "disc"? Did they have CDs way back then? > > Oh, come on, records have been discs forever.... Ever heard of a Disc Jockey? > > Or are you arguing about disc v. disk ('cos Philips are a European > company, they used the british spelling of the word....) > > > Cosmic

It was a joke. Isn't there a FAQ on this stuff somewhere? How'd this topic get started anyway? -kc

Chris.Hilker muttered something about... :: ::Do you get angry when people call a 33 RPM record an "album," because it's ::supposed to refer to a set of 78's? No, not at all. Because I continue to call just about everything an album, unless of course it only has a few tracks on it. In my mind, any musical recording with more than 2-3 tracks on it is an album of recordings. practice random acts of kindness and steven j. white senseless acts of beauty aragorn@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu

Roy Badami muttered something about... :: ::Actually, it was a bit of a braino. If I'd been thinking, I'd have ::said "the vinyl release of the album". Of course, as someone else on ::this list pointed out, the original meaning of "album" is a collection ::of 78's. (An album, being too long to fit on a single disc, came as a ::pack of several 78's.) And I actually have an album of 78's; two or three if I remember correctly. They're collections of old 'standards' from, most likely, the 1940s. Wouldn't it be cool to take this music and mix it into a mix of, oh say, breakbeat? I think the breaks being about twice the speed of these 'standards' would fit well and be a very odd mix indeed. =) practice random acts of kindness steven j. white and aragorn@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu senseless acts of beauty finger for PGP 2.6 public key

On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, Steve J White wrote:

quoted 5 lines And I actually have an album of 78's; two or three if I remember correctly.

> And I actually have an album of 78's; two or three if I remember correctly. > They're collections of old 'standards' from, most likely, the 1940s. > Wouldn't it be cool to take this music and mix it into a mix of, oh say, > breakbeat? I think the breaks being about twice the speed of these > 'standards' would fit well and be a very odd mix indeed. =)

I do know that the jazzy-sounding stuff on Cajmere/Dajae's "You Got Me Up" remixes are swiped from Benny Goodman! Stu 8)

djkc muttered something about... :: ::It was a joke. :: ::Isn't there a FAQ on this stuff somewhere? ::How'd this topic get started anyway? It was me. practice random acts of kindness steven j. white and aragorn@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu senseless acts of beauty finger for PGP 2.6 public key