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2003-05-06 21:32Peter Becker [idm] mainstream press
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2003-05-06 21:32Peter BeckerWhy do any of you care what the mainstream press has to say about anything? Its all shit a
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Why do any of you care what the mainstream press has to say about anything? Its all shit and always has been. The fact that a Slate review misquotes, misinterprets and misinforms is kind of a given. Seek relevant information, Peter
quoted 13 lines From: idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org> From: idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org > Date: 6 May 2003 20:45:26 -0000 > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: idm Digest 6 May 2003 20:45:26 -0000 Issue 2147 > > Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:49:14 -0500 > To: dave jakhelln <reverberat0r@yahoo.com> > From: lazlo <muziq@ionet.net> > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] the mainstream press still doesn't know jack about IDM > Message-ID: <3EB811BA.A8D347A@ionet.net> > > To me, the problem with Bemis' review isn't that he pigeonholes IDM artists
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2003-05-06 21:38dave jakhellnwell, for one thing, i find that Slate has pretty insightful political reporting, so they'
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well, for one thing, i find that Slate has pretty insightful political reporting, so they're not a totally worthless outfit. and clearly i do seek out relevant info -- how else would i have judged this review to be worthless? the point is this: i've been into IDM since around 1998. this hardly makes me old school or anything, but in the last 5 years or so, i have noticed that the profile of this kind of music continues to rise. that leads inevitably to some recognition by the mainstream press. what makes me mad is lazy reporting and people getting their facts wrong. that Slate review might make someone who's just getting into electronic music think that aphex is the bee knees and autechre, pusher, and u-ziq are one trick ponies not work investigating. misinformation pisses me off. but how 'bout that Blamstrain album on merck? good stuff, indeed. Peter Becker <pbecker3@nyc.rr.com> wrote:Why do any of you care what the mainstream press has to say about anything? Its all shit and always has been. The fact that a Slate review misquotes, misinterprets and misinforms is kind of a given. Seek relevant information, Peter
quoted 13 lines From: idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org> From: idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org > Date: 6 May 2003 20:45:26 -0000 > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: idm Digest 6 May 2003 20:45:26 -0000 Issue 2147 > > Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:49:14 -0500 > To: dave jakhelln > From: lazlo > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] the mainstream press still doesn't know jack about IDM > Message-ID: <3EB811BA.A8D347A@ionet.net> > > To me, the problem with Bemis' review isn't that he pigeonholes IDM artists
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2003-05-07 00:09l.garcia@utoronto.caActually, I may not pay much heed to what mainstream media has to say about a mainstream-u
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Actually, I may not pay much heed to what mainstream media has to say about a mainstream-unfriendly genre, but I certainly thing we can't ignore it, either. As much as we may discredit the mainstream media's simplifying and minimizing view of IDM, we can't deny that zillions of other people read it...In fact, mainstream media is defined by the size of its audience. So when you say to a new friend/stranger/potential sexual partner: "I like IDM." and they say "Ooooh. I've heard of that." You have some idea of what sort of misinformation they've been fed. </soap box> Luis On Tue, 6 May 2003, Peter Becker wrote:
quoted 28 lines Why do any of you care what the mainstream press has to say about anything?> Why do any of you care what the mainstream press has to say about anything? > > Its all shit and always has been. The fact that a Slate review misquotes, > misinterprets and misinforms is kind of a given. > > Seek relevant information, > Peter > > > From: idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org > > Date: 6 May 2003 20:45:26 -0000 > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: idm Digest 6 May 2003 20:45:26 -0000 Issue 2147 > > > > Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 14:49:14 -0500 > > To: dave jakhelln <reverberat0r@yahoo.com> > > From: lazlo <muziq@ionet.net> > > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: [idm] the mainstream press still doesn't know jack about IDM > > Message-ID: <3EB811BA.A8D347A@ionet.net> > > > > To me, the problem with Bemis' review isn't that he pigeonholes IDM artists > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2003-05-07 14:26EggyToast> Actually, I may not pay much heed to what mainstream media has to say > about a mainstre
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quoted 1 line Actually, I may not pay much heed to what mainstream media has to> Actually, I may not pay much heed to what mainstream media has to
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quoted 2 lines about a mainstream-unfriendly genre, but I certainly thing we can't> about a mainstream-unfriendly genre, but I certainly thing we can't > ignore it, either. As much as we may discredit the mainstream
media's
quoted 2 lines simplifying and minimizing view of IDM, we can't deny that zillions of> simplifying and minimizing view of IDM, we can't deny that zillions of > other people read it...In fact, mainstream media is defined by the
size
quoted 3 lines of its audience. So when you say to a new friend/stranger/potential> of its audience. So when you say to a new friend/stranger/potential > sexual partner: "I like IDM." and they say "Ooooh. I've heard of > that." You have some idea of what sort of misinformation they've
been
quoted 1 line fed.> fed.
Yeah, that all IDM-artists are megalomaniacal fruitcakes that buy banks, drive tanks, and "make their own noisemakers." If anything, that article proved that making yourself appeal to the media without "selling out" will give you years and years of free advertising. -- eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com ------ it's in your grocer's freezer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org