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2000-04-12 10:29Benoit Cappronnier [idm] Amon Tobin
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2000-05-19 00:37Richard Starke [idm] amon tobin
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2000-05-19 09:07Kurt B. Pruenner Re: [idm] amon tobin
2000-05-20 06:06Peter Hollo [idm] Re: amon tobin
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2000-05-23 18:36Jeff Waye/Ninja Tune Re: [idm] Re: amon tobin
2000-06-28 17:29[idm] AMON TOBIN
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2000-06-28 21:27Jamie Johnson Re: [idm] AMON TOBIN
2000-10-08 17:49[idm] amon tobin
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2001-03-07 08:10Scanning Bixby [idm] Amon Tobin
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2001-03-07 11:22component Re: [idm] Amon Tobin
2001-03-07 15:28Wez [idm] Amon Tobin
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2001-03-07 20:59César Laia Re: [idm] Amon Tobin
2001-03-09 14:08Ben Coffer [idm] amon tobin
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2002-11-25 23:41Kewu [idm] Amon Tobin
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2003-12-20 13:49Richard Gray [idm] Amon Tobin
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2000-04-12 10:29Benoit CappronnierI just received a promo copy of Amon Tobin - Supermodified and even if I just give it a sh
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I just received a promo copy of Amon Tobin - Supermodified and even if I just give it a short time, It seems to kicks ass ;-) I used to be a big fan of Amon but this LP seems to be the best he has done. Highly recommanded Benoit http://www.wsound.com
2000-04-13 22:23numb>I just received a promo copy of Amon Tobin - Supermodified and even if I >just give it a
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quoted 4 lines I just received a promo copy of Amon Tobin - Supermodified and even if I>I just received a promo copy of Amon Tobin - Supermodified and even if I >just give it a short time, It seems to kicks ass ;-) > >I used to be a big fan of Amon but this LP seems to be the best he has done.
I agree. This release is incredible. Not sure how to describe it. Kinda like experimental hip-hop, acid jazz. I can't wait for when Amon & badass scratchmaster Kid Koala come to Baltimore next month. later4now! numb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-19 00:37Richard Starkeso is anyone else totaly blown away by the new album or is it just me ????? Did I miss the
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so is anyone else totaly blown away by the new album or is it just me ????? Did I miss the praise ??????? Anyone seen him on this latest tour, whats he up to ? Richard Starke Will / Loosegroove Records p 1 888 9455 797 f 206 329 5397 ***PLEASE NOTE NEW ADDRESS*** 300 Queen Anne Avenue N., #10 Seattle, WA 98109 www.willrecords.com www.loosegroove.com www.nashkato.com NOW NASH KATO “DEBUTANTE” June 20 Layo & Bushwaka “Low Life” Mr C presents “Subterrain”
2000-05-19 19:13Wendy KAmon Tobin's brand new micro site is up & running & it is proudly highlighted on the front
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Amon Tobin's brand new micro site is up & running & it is proudly highlighted on the front page of http://www.ninjatune.net Amon Tobin is in Portland tonite - the tour and hits Seattle tomorrow Sat nite (details on the ninjatune.net site and for Seattle show, it says doors open at something like 7pm show starts at 8. Apparently, he's been smokin up the place on the meals of wheels tour... "4 Ton Mantis" off the lp will be droppin late july & is killer (i dont say these things cuZ i work for ninja either) richard - you are not alone... the critics in the UK are shittin themselves, it's soooo good. all i'm gonna say is amon has bent the rulebook again! w:) so is anyone else totaly blown away by the new album or is it just me ????? Did I miss the praise ??????? Anyone seen him on this latest tour, whats he up to ? Richard Starke Will / Loosegroove Records p 1 888 9455 797 f 206 329 5397 ***PLEASE NOTE NEW ADDRESS*** 300 Queen Anne Avenue N., #10 Seattle, WA 98109 www.willrecords.com www.loosegroove.com www.nashkato.com NOW NASH KATO “DEBUTANTE” June 20 Layo & Bushwaka “Low Life” Mr C presents “Subterrain” --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-19 09:07Kurt B. PruennerRichard Starke wrote: > so is anyone else totaly blown away by the new album or is it just
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Richard Starke wrote:
quoted 1 line so is anyone else totaly blown away by the new album or is it just me ?????> so is anyone else totaly blown away by the new album or is it just me ?????
Well, I am, but...
quoted 1 line Did I miss the praise ???????> Did I miss the praise ???????
...I surprisingly didn't see much praise here, either, and...
quoted 1 line Anyone seen him on this latest tour, whats he up to ?> Anyone seen him on this latest tour, whats he up to ?
...that I can't help you with, being a bit far off... ^_^ -- Kurt B Pruenner Haendelstrasse 17 4020 Linz/AUSTRIA http://www.mp3.com/Leak np: Disjecta - Here (Looking For Snags) WARP Records http://www.warprecords.com/ BUZZ 1&2 http://www.buzz2.com/ User Friendly http://www.userfriendly.org/ Segfault http://www.segfault.org/ Anime On DVD http://www.animeondvd.com/ Slashdot http://www.slashdot.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-20 06:06Peter Hollo"Richard Starke" <richard@willrecords.com> writes: > so is anyone else totaly blown away b
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"Richard Starke" <richard@willrecords.com> writes:
quoted 2 lines so is anyone else totaly blown away by the new album or is it just me> so is anyone else totaly blown away by the new album or is it just me > ????? Did I miss the praise ???????
I'm extremely impressed with "Supermodified" too. I've been a fan of his since pre-Bricolage, love Cujo - Adventures in Foam and all the rest, and whilst I think he's always been pretty advanced in his use of samples and beats, I just think the new album is an amazing leap forward. Someone else's review said it's "Permutation Part 2" which I think is very far from the truth. I'm a big fan of chopped-up drum'n'bass, one of the few people who still thinks there's life in drill'n'bass and all the rest... the new album has a fair amount _less_ actually of the drum'n'bass type beats (not that they're entirely absent or anything!), so it's testament to how good it is that I'm not at all disappointed. The beats are more varied than his have been in the past, and still endlessly interesting - there's lots of detail even in the tracks without speeded up beats. And the use of samples is really quite masterful. More variety of sounds than before, and yet they're somehow put together into tracks that are really coherent wholes. I would think that anyone who's liked Amon's work in the past or who's been into Hrvatski recently, or the Ninja Tune sound, will really enjoy Supermodified. Strongly recommended from this guy anyway. Cheers, Peter. -- Peter Hollo raven@fourplay.com.au http://www.fourplay.com.au/me.html FourPlay - Eclectic Electric String Quartet http://www.fourplay.com.au Raven: experimental electronic music http://www.fourplay.com.au/sound.html "Of course, dance music can be a music where you lie on your back and your brain cells dance" - Michael Karoli of Can, quoted in Wire mag. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-20 07:46Bill WrightDid anyone else read an interview about Amon Tobin sampling a lot of the stuff as found so
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Did anyone else read an interview about Amon Tobin sampling a lot of the stuff as found sounds (sledgehammers for percussion, trains for bass etc) for Supermodified rather than old records? Or am I just dreaming this? Can anyone point me to this, I'd like to read it again now that I have actually heard the album....
quoted 6 lines I'm extremely impressed with "Supermodified" too. I've been a fan of h>I'm extremely impressed with "Supermodified" too. I've been a fan of his >since pre-Bricolage, love Cujo - Adventures in Foam and all the rest, >and whilst I think he's always been pretty advanced in his use of >samples and beats, I just think the new album is an amazing leap >forward. Someone else's review said it's "Permutation Part 2" which I >think is very far from the truth.
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2000-05-23 18:36Jeff Waye/Ninja Tuneyeah, for a lot of the tracks he used natural (or un-natural depending on opinion) bass so
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yeah, for a lot of the tracks he used natural (or un-natural depending on opinion) bass sounds. You'll hear things like pitched down motor noises, anvil sounds, beatboxing, etc... providing the bass and percussion. It works really well as it supplies a nice uneasiness to the whole thing. Jeff
quoted 5 lines Did anyone else read an interview about Amon Tobin sampling a lot of the>Did anyone else read an interview about Amon Tobin sampling a lot of the >stuff as found sounds (sledgehammers for percussion, trains for bass etc) >for Supermodified rather than old records? Or am I just dreaming >this? Can anyone point me to this, I'd like to read it again now that I >have actually heard the album....
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2000-06-28 17:29Sissoko13@aol.comAMON TOBIN is the Man. he plays some experimental, drum/bass noise. mothefucker is crazy N
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AMON TOBIN is the Man. he plays some experimental, drum/bass noise. mothefucker is crazy Ninja Tune published this CD EXCELLENT --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-06-28 19:265x> AMON TOBIN > is the Man. > he plays some > experimental, drum/bass > noise. > mothefucke
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quoted 10 lines AMON TOBIN> AMON TOBIN > is the Man. > he plays some > experimental, drum/bass > noise. > mothefucker is crazy > Ninja Tune published > this CD > EXCELLENT >
uh...indeed -- my phone keeps ringing, or maybe that's just my ears shaun- http://www.mp3.com/5x it's good --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-06-28 21:27Jamie Johnson> mothefucker is crazy Couldn't have put it any better myself! ---------------------------
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quoted 1 line mothefucker is crazy> mothefucker is crazy
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2000-10-08 17:49ClarionMusic@aol.comdid anyone get to see amon in nyc last night? that fukker sold out, so i didnt get to see
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did anyone get to see amon in nyc last night? that fukker sold out, so i didnt get to see it......im curious as to what gear he used to perform....im sure someone got to see it, fill me in the 411 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-08 17:56Kent williamsOn Sun, 8 Oct 2000 ClarionMusic@aol.com wrote: > did anyone get to see amon in nyc last ni
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On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 ClarionMusic@aol.com wrote:
quoted 4 lines did anyone get to see amon in nyc last night? that fukker sold out, so i> did anyone get to see amon in nyc last night? that fukker sold out, so i > didnt get to see it......im curious as to what gear he used to perform....im > sure someone got to see it, fill me in the 411 >
Always get your tickets early, but if that doesn't work and you really want to see someone, show up at the door anyway, and beg, plead, and drop as many names as you can with a straight face. I.e. "I'm meeting Madonna here" would be ineffective but "Bebel Gilberto said to meet her here" might work... 'sold out' is a pretty stretchy concept. And don't get salty with the door guy -- stay pleasant, and don't waste their time. I bet you $5 you could have gotten in ;-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-08 18:09Andrew Hime>On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 ClarionMusic@aol.com wrote: >> did anyone get to see amon in nyc last
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quoted 3 lines On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 ClarionMusic@aol.com wrote:>On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 ClarionMusic@aol.com wrote: >> did anyone get to see amon in nyc last night? that fukker sold out, so i >> didnt get to see it......im curious as to what gear he used to
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quoted 1 line sure someone got to see it, fill me in the 411>> sure someone got to see it, fill me in the 411
quoted 4 lines Always get your tickets early, but if that doesn't work and you>Always get your tickets early, but if that doesn't work and you >really want to see someone, show up at the door anyway, and beg, plead, >and drop as many names as you can with a straight face. I.e. "I'm meeting >Madonna here" would be ineffective but "Bebel Gilberto said to meet her
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quoted 6 lines might work...>might work... > >'sold out' is a pretty stretchy concept. And don't >get salty with the door guy -- stay pleasant, and don't waste their time. > >I bet you $5 you could have gotten in ;-)
Wow, I got to see that magic at work last night. Guy who wasn't on the guest list claiming to be the headlining band's road manager and one of the members' brother and he needed to be in there to help them set up. They were already set up. Door people fell for it anyway. Turns out he is the brother of one of the members, but it's still an incedibly dickish thing to do. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-08 19:03Kent williamsOn Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Andrew Hime wrote: > > > >'sold out' is a pretty stretchy concept. And
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quoted 11 lines 'sold out' is a pretty stretchy concept. And don't> > > >'sold out' is a pretty stretchy concept. And don't > >get salty with the door guy -- stay pleasant, and don't waste their time. > > > > Wow, I got to see that magic at work last night. Guy who wasn't on the guest > list claiming to be the headlining band's road manager and one of the > members' brother and he needed to be in there to help them set up. They were > already set up. Door people fell for it anyway. Turns out he is the brother > of one of the members, but it's still an incedibly dickish thing to do. >
Heh, well, getting into shows free is an art if you do it right. I've advanced to the point of my highest ambition when I was 18 -- I almost always get in free everywhere. In fact I do the opposite sometimes, and pay when I don't have to if it looks like the show is underattended, because I've been on the other side sweating every $5 teenybopper hoping to at least pay the artist and the planeticket. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-03-07 08:10Scanning BixbyHi there, Just bought the Amon Tobin supermodified cd and i must say thats one of my favou
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Hi there, Just bought the Amon Tobin supermodified cd and i must say thats one of my favourites.. Is there someone who knows about any similar artists like Amon Tobin? Or is there some other projects ive missed? PEr _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-03-07 15:19Brian M. CassFunki Porcini, also on Ninja Tunes, is in a similar vein to Amon Tobin. I would suggest yo
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Funki Porcini, also on Ninja Tunes, is in a similar vein to Amon Tobin. I would suggest you check out Plug's Drum n Bass for Papa, although not quite so big beatish as Amon Tobin, also in case you didn't know, Amon Tobin put out some earlier stuff under guise of Cujo. If you like Supermodified I would definately recommend picking up Permutations, and to a lesser extent Bricolage. btw: writing email in telnet sucks On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Scanning Bixby wrote:
quoted 16 lines Hi there,> Hi there, > Just bought the Amon Tobin supermodified cd and i must say thats one of my > favourites.. > > Is there someone who knows about any similar artists like Amon Tobin? > Or is there some other projects ive missed? > > PEr > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-03-07 11:22componentWell if you like Amon Tobin, you may want to check out his stuff under the name Cujo. Rob
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Well if you like Amon Tobin, you may want to check out his stuff under the name Cujo. Rob ::::::Component Records::::::: Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 www.componentrecords.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Scanning Bixby <frogfood@hotmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:10 AM Subject: [idm] Amon Tobin
quoted 16 lines Hi there,> Hi there, > Just bought the Amon Tobin supermodified cd and i must say thats one of my > favourites.. > > Is there someone who knows about any similar artists like Amon Tobin? > Or is there some other projects ive missed? > > PEr > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-03-07 15:28WezCheck out Ryuichi Sakamoto's Anger/Grief EPs, coz they all resemble Amon Tobin, esp. as he
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Check out Ryuichi Sakamoto's Anger/Grief EPs, coz they all resemble Amon Tobin, esp. as he's one of the remixers. If you like the more laid back tracks of Tobin, then listening to Bonobo is a must. Bonobo has just released an album 'Animal Magic', and a few singles. Happy hearing Wez ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-03-07 20:35JShupester@aol.comdude, get all amon tobin. he's the man. also, check cujo "adventures in foam" but on nineb
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dude, get all amon tobin. he's the man. also, check cujo "adventures in foam" but on ninebar and not shadow. (they severly ruin the cover art as usual, totally changing the meaning). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-03-07 20:37Diana Pottscheck out the ninjatune.net under 'videos' for Tobin video clips. d -----Original Message-
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check out the ninjatune.net under 'videos' for Tobin video clips. d -----Original Message----- From: JShupester@aol.com [mailto:JShupester@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 3:36 PM To: frogfood@hotmail.com Cc: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] Amon Tobin dude, get all amon tobin. he's the man. also, check cujo "adventures in foam" but on ninebar and not shadow. (they severly ruin the cover art as usual, totally changing the meaning). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-03-07 20:59César LaiaYes, in www.ninjatune.net/videos Don't forget Mr Scruff videos also, they are amazing. Con
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Yes, in www.ninjatune.net/videos Don't forget Mr Scruff videos also, they are amazing. Concerning artists like Amon Tobin, my favourite is DJ Food (any album). Last year's "Kaleidoscope" is great :) Cesar ----- Original Message ----- From: Diana Potts <diapot@allmusic.com> To: <JShupester@aol.com>; <frogfood@hotmail.com> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:37 PM Subject: RE: [idm] Amon Tobin
quoted 27 lines check out the ninjatune.net under 'videos' for Tobin video clips.> check out the ninjatune.net under 'videos' for Tobin video clips. > > d > > -----Original Message----- > From: JShupester@aol.com [mailto:JShupester@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 3:36 PM > To: frogfood@hotmail.com > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Amon Tobin > > > dude, get all amon tobin. he's the man. > also, check cujo "adventures in foam" but on ninebar and not shadow. > (they severly ruin the cover art as usual, totally changing the meaning). > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-03-09 14:08Ben CofferHi, Anyone know if Amon Tobin's done anything since Supermodified? -- Ben Coffer http://ww
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2001-03-09 22:27nethedhe's working on new material @ the mo. >Hi, >Anyone know if Amon Tobin's done anything sin
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quoted 7 lines Hi,>Hi, >Anyone know if Amon Tobin's done anything since Supermodified? > >-- >Ben Coffer >http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/ >
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2002-11-25 23:41KewuWhat happened to Amon Tobin? I used to listen to his tracks and enjoy the jazzy/arabic/dnb
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What happened to Amon Tobin? I used to listen to his tracks and enjoy the jazzy/arabic/dnb fusion he has managed to pull off so well. However, just recently, I saw him perform live and all of my opinions of him changed. The show (at the Commodore Theatre in Vancouver, BC) opened with Bonobo doing a decent performance of some of his tracks. Didn't sound like anything special or unique but he pulled it off nicely. Followed by him was Prefuse, and let me tell you he absolutely ROCKED it. Using his MPC to punch out beats live to some of (imo) his best tracks, doing live tweaks, sequencing, etc, he kept me well entertained and hyped for the entire set. I was expecting the same from Amon Tobin. This is what I was made to expect when I saw "Amon Tobin LIVE" on the flyer. I can't even tell you how dissappointed me and my compadred were. First of all, when Amon came on, they turned the system up around 15-20DB so that even in the VERY back of the enormous ballroom it was uncomfortably loud. Second of all, he wasn't really doing anything more live than any dj does when mixing a set. He had records with time code mixing tracks on his laptop (or at least he was doing his best at mixing). Last, but not least, and this is the part that made me walk out after 15 minutes..... HE WASN'T EVEN PLAYING ANY OF HIS OWN TRACKS!!! WTF? Two of the five tracks I stayed to hear were squarepusher tracks that have come out in the last year. I mean, sure, it was cool to hear a couple of Squarepusher tracks on a nice system, but please! That's just ridiculous! After myself and a couple of friends rushed to the front of the stage to yell at him, telling him to play his own tracks, he finally mixed one in. Unfortanately, by that point we were so disillusioned and deaf that we just opted to leave. Please let me know what you think of this..... I know this probably happens more that I realise with some of the other bigname artists, but at least put "dj Amon tobin" or something like that on the flyer. If I go to a live show, I don't want to watch some dude play other people's vinyl. Bottom line.... all respect lost for Amon Tobin, but still worth the 30 bucks to see Prefuse.
2002-11-26 01:34wiresQuoting Kewu (kewu@telus.net): > What happened to Amon Tobin? ... Prefuse ... absolutely R
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Quoting Kewu (kewu@telus.net):
quoted 9 lines What happened to Amon Tobin? ... Prefuse ... absolutely ROCKED it ...> What happened to Amon Tobin? ... Prefuse ... absolutely ROCKED it ... > I was expecting the same from Amon Tobin. This is what I was made to > expect when I saw "Amon Tobin LIVE" on the flyer. I can't even tell > you how dissappointed me and my compadred were. > ... > First of all, when Amon came on, they turned the system up around > 15-20DB so that even in the VERY back of the enormous ballroom it was > uncomfortably loud. > ...
Okey, that sucks, I allway bring earplugs and I also had to where them in the venue where I saw him, but still. Apart from that I really disagree... I saw him in the melkweg, netherlands, a little while ago and he was really awesome. He played many tracks of his own and stuff like "do you know squarepusher". Apart from just mixing the tracks he mashed them up here and there using loops, fx and I dunno what else. All in all very nice dancable tracks, in a great blend of different styles (drum+bass to squarepusher to fast eletroisch beats to his own weird stuff). I also saw him on a Ninja Tune night about a year ago, and that was even more amazing, him mixing techno with his older albums, arabic stuff, drum and bass, mixing at 1/3 etc etc, really very nice. Maybe he had a bad night?
quoted 3 lines Second of all, he wasn't really doing anything more live than any dj> Second of all, he wasn't really doing anything more live than any dj > does when mixing a set. He had records with time code mixing tracks on > his laptop
Yeah, that's stanton final scratch... and true, it's just mixing, but where I went it wasn't advertised as ``LIVE'' or anything, just A.T. -- http://defekt.nl/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-11-26 04:00alan stewartThis string brings up a real conundrum for me... I appreciated Amon's set @ Bimbo's [SF] b
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This string brings up a real conundrum for me... I appreciated Amon's set @ Bimbo's [SF] but I wasn't blown away with it- Dont get me wrong, had I been looking over his shoulder I guarantee I would have enjoyed it much more. The problem is that you go to see a live event as much for the performance aspect as for the music. You can project as many interesting visuals as you want - nothing can really compensate for the organic quality of seeing art created, or in the least, manipulated on the fly. From the audience's perspective, and this applies to DJs who produce the tracks they spin and loptop musicians in particular, there is really nothing to stop the performer from simply hitting the "play" button and kickin' it for the remainder. It wasn't until the day after the show that I spoke with amon, found out he is using final scratch. Had the audience known that, or better yet, had they projected a screenshot and/or over the shoulder perspective, an appreciation for the skill and immediate talent required to pull off a live set would have made for a much more engaging show. 2 cents, cheers alan ::::::::::::: alan stewart http://www.ROBOTSPEAK.com alan@robotspeak.com 415 554 1977 on 11/25/02 5:34 PM, wires at wires@xs4all.nl wrote:
quoted 34 lines Quoting Kewu (kewu@telus.net):> Quoting Kewu (kewu@telus.net): >> What happened to Amon Tobin? ... Prefuse ... absolutely ROCKED it ... >> I was expecting the same from Amon Tobin. This is what I was made to >> expect when I saw "Amon Tobin LIVE" on the flyer. I can't even tell >> you how dissappointed me and my compadred were. >> ... >> First of all, when Amon came on, they turned the system up around >> 15-20DB so that even in the VERY back of the enormous ballroom it was >> uncomfortably loud. >> ... > > Okey, that sucks, I allway bring earplugs and I also had to where them > in the venue where I saw him, but still. > > Apart from that I really disagree... I saw him in the melkweg, > netherlands, a little while ago and he was really awesome. He played > many tracks of his own and stuff like "do you know squarepusher". Apart > from just mixing the tracks he mashed them up here and there using > loops, fx and I dunno what else. All in all very nice dancable tracks, > in a great blend of different styles (drum+bass to squarepusher to fast > eletroisch beats to his own weird stuff). > > I also saw him on a Ninja Tune night about a year ago, and that was even > more amazing, him mixing techno with his older albums, arabic stuff, > drum and bass, mixing at 1/3 etc etc, really very nice. > > Maybe he had a bad night? > >> Second of all, he wasn't really doing anything more live than any dj >> does when mixing a set. He had records with time code mixing tracks on >> his laptop > > Yeah, that's stanton final scratch... and true, it's just mixing, but > where I went it wasn't advertised as ``LIVE'' or anything, just A.T.
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2002-11-26 18:48michal urbanskiit's too bad you left early, 'cause later in the show he seemed to be playing his own mate
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it's too bad you left early, 'cause later in the show he seemed to be playing his own material exclusively. i had the exact opposite experience of the show... bonobo was good, prefuse was alright, and tobin rocked my booty-off. i'll grant you that his opening track was _waaay_ too freakin' loud, but other than that, it was [da bomb|da shiznat|superfreakycool]. i thought (but i'm no expert on these things) that it _was_ a "live" show, in that i recognized a bunch of his tunes, just cut up and presented in slightly-modified (heehee, get it?) form. __michal On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 03:41:27PM -0800, Kewu wrote:
quoted 4 lines What happened to Amon Tobin? I used to listen to his tracks and enjoy the jazzy/arabic/dnb> What happened to Amon Tobin? I used to listen to his tracks and enjoy the jazzy/arabic/dnb fusion he has managed to pull off so well. However, just recently, I saw him perform live and all of my opinions of him changed. The show (at the Commodore Theatre in Vancouver, BC) opened with Bonobo doing a decent performance of some of his tracks. Didn't sound like anything special or unique but he pulled it off nicely. Followed by him was Prefuse, and let me tell you he absolutely ROCKED it. Using his MPC to punch out beats live to some of (imo) his best tracks, doing live tweaks, sequencing, etc, he kept me well entertained and hyped for the entire set. I was expecting the same from Amon Tobin. This is what I was made to expect when I saw "Amon Tobin LIVE" on the flyer. I can't even tell you how dissappointed me and my compadred were. First of all, when Amon came on, they turned the system up around 15-20DB so that even in the VERY back of the enormous ballroom it was uncomfortably loud. Second of all, he wasn't really doing anything more live than any dj does when mixing a set. He had records with time code mixing tracks on his laptop (or at least he was doing his best at mixing). Last, but not least, and this is the part that made me walk out after 15 minutes..... HE WASN'T EVEN PLAYING ANY OF HIS OWN TRACKS!!! WTF? Two of the five tracks I stayed to hear were squarepusher tracks that have come out in the last year. I mean, sure, it was cool to hear a couple of Squarepusher tracks on a nice system, but please! That's just ridiculous! After myself and a couple of friends rushed to the front of the stage to yell at him, telling him to play his own tracks, he finally mixed one in. Unfortanately, by that point we were so disillusioned and deaf that we just opted to leave. > > Please let me know what you think of this..... I know this probably happens more that I realise with some of the other bigname artists, but at least put "dj Amon tobin" or something like that on the flyer. If I go to a live show, I don't want to watch some dude play other people's vinyl. > Bottom line.... all respect lost for Amon Tobin, but still worth the 30 bucks to see Prefuse.
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2002-11-26 00:01inkyi've never known amon tobin to paly 'live' he always dj's. i imagine it would be impossibl
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i've never known amon tobin to paly 'live' he always dj's. i imagine it would be impossible for him to re-inact his music as theres so many samples taken from all over the place going off all over the palce. at the big chill a few years back he dj'ed wasn't anything special. his albums on the other hand are amazing and some of my fav jazzy drill n bass music i've heard, listning to permutations i'd say he out does everyone in the same genre. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kewu" <kewu@telus.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:41 PM Subject: [idm] Amon Tobin What happened to Amon Tobin? I used to listen to his tracks and enjoy the jazzy/arabic/dnb fusion he has managed to pull off so well. However, just recently, I saw him perform live and all of my opinions of him changed. The show (at the Commodore Theatre in Vancouver, BC) opened with Bonobo doing a decent performance of some of his tracks. Didn't sound like anything special or unique but he pulled it off nicely. Followed by him was Prefuse, and let me tell you he absolutely ROCKED it. Using his MPC to punch out beats live to some of (imo) his best tracks, doing live tweaks, sequencing, etc, he kept me well entertained and hyped for the entire set. I was expecting the same from Amon Tobin. This is what I was made to expect when I saw "Amon Tobin LIVE" on the flyer. I can't even tell you how dissappointed me and my compadred were. First of all, when Amon came on, they turned the system up around 15-20DB so that even in the VERY back of the enormous ballroom it was uncomfortably loud. Second of all, he wasn't really doing anything more live than any dj does when mixing a set. He had records with time code mixing tracks on his laptop (or at least he was doing his best at mixing). Last, but not least, and this is the part that made me walk out after 15 minutes..... HE WASN'T EVEN PLAYING ANY OF HIS OWN TRACKS!!! WTF? Two of the five tracks I stayed to hear were squarepusher tracks that have come out in the last year. I mean, sure, it was cool to hear a couple of Squarepusher tracks on a nice system, but please! That's just ridiculous! After myself and a couple of friends rushed to the front of the stage to yell at him, telling him to play his own tracks, he finally mixed one in. Unfortanately, by that point we were so disillusioned and deaf that we just opted to leave. Please let me know what you think of this..... I know this probably happens more that I realise with some of the other bigname artists, but at least put "dj Amon tobin" or something like that on the flyer. If I go to a live show, I don't want to watch some dude play other people's vinyl. Bottom line.... all respect lost for Amon Tobin, but still worth the 30 bucks to see Prefuse. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-11-26 00:29KewuYes, I probably should've informed myself before I went to see his show. I like a lot of t
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Yes, I probably should've informed myself before I went to see his show. I like a lot of the stuff on his albums, and so had some expectations. Without expectations, there can be no dissapointments, right? However, it would be far from impossible for him to do a live show. I guess he's just to lazy and ambivalent to bother spending the time and effort to set one up. In any case, I would have felt completely cheated out of my money if Prefuse73 had not been there to tear it up. ----- Original Message ----- From: "inky" <inkyinkz@yahoo.co.uk> To: "Kewu" <kewu@telus.net>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Amon Tobin
quoted 2 lines i've never known amon tobin to paly 'live' he always dj's. i imagine i> i've never known amon tobin to paly 'live' he always dj's. i imagine it > would be impossible for him to re-inact his music as theres so many
samples
quoted 16 lines taken from all over the place going off all over the palce.> taken from all over the place going off all over the palce. > at the big chill a few years back he dj'ed wasn't anything special. his > albums on the other hand are amazing and some of my fav jazzy drill n bass > music i've heard, listning to permutations i'd say he out does everyone in > the same genre. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kewu" <kewu@telus.net> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:41 PM > Subject: [idm] Amon Tobin > > > What happened to Amon Tobin? I used to listen to his tracks and enjoy the > jazzy/arabic/dnb fusion he has managed to pull off so well. However, just > recently, I saw him perform live and all of my opinions of him changed.
The
quoted 1 line show (at the Commodore Theatre in Vancouver, BC) opened with Bonobo doing> show (at the Commodore Theatre in Vancouver, BC) opened with Bonobo doing
a
quoted 1 line decent performance of some of his tracks. Didn't sound like anything> decent performance of some of his tracks. Didn't sound like anything
special
quoted 1 line or unique but he pulled it off nicely. Followed by him was Prefuse, and> or unique but he pulled it off nicely. Followed by him was Prefuse, and
let
quoted 5 lines me tell you he absolutely ROCKED it. Using his MPC to punch out beats live> me tell you he absolutely ROCKED it. Using his MPC to punch out beats live > to some of (imo) his best tracks, doing live tweaks, sequencing, etc, he > kept me well entertained and hyped for the entire set. I was expecting the > same from Amon Tobin. This is what I was made to expect when I saw "Amon > Tobin LIVE" on the flyer. I can't even tell you how dissappointed me and
my
quoted 2 lines compadred were. First of all, when Amon came on, they turned the system up> compadred were. First of all, when Amon came on, they turned the system up > around 15-20DB so that even in the VERY back of the enormous ballroom it
was
quoted 1 line uncomfortably loud. Second of all, he wasn't really doing anything more> uncomfortably loud. Second of all, he wasn't really doing anything more
live
quoted 4 lines than any dj does when mixing a set. He had records with time code mixing> than any dj does when mixing a set. He had records with time code mixing > tracks on his laptop (or at least he was doing his best at mixing). Last, > but not least, and this is the part that made me walk out after 15 > minutes..... HE WASN'T EVEN PLAYING ANY OF HIS OWN TRACKS!!! WTF? Two of
the
quoted 1 line five tracks I stayed to hear were squarepusher tracks that have come out> five tracks I stayed to hear were squarepusher tracks that have come out
in
quoted 4 lines the last year. I mean, sure, it was cool to hear a couple of Squarepusher> the last year. I mean, sure, it was cool to hear a couple of Squarepusher > tracks on a nice system, but please! That's just ridiculous! After myself > and a couple of friends rushed to the front of the stage to yell at him, > telling him to play his own tracks, he finally mixed one in.
Unfortanately,
quoted 1 line by that point we were so disillusioned and deaf that we just opted to> by that point we were so disillusioned and deaf that we just opted to
leave.
quoted 2 lines Please let me know what you think of this..... I know this probably> > Please let me know what you think of this..... I know this probably
happens
quoted 1 line more that I realise with some of the other bigname artists, but at least> more that I realise with some of the other bigname artists, but at least
put
quoted 1 line "dj Amon tobin" or something like that on the flyer. If I go to a live> "dj Amon tobin" or something like that on the flyer. If I go to a live
show,
quoted 16 lines I don't want to watch some dude play other people's vinyl.> I don't want to watch some dude play other people's vinyl. > Bottom line.... all respect lost for Amon Tobin, but still worth the 30 > bucks to see Prefuse. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-11-26 04:19dave@lowerdepths.commaybe it was the promoter and not Amon Tobin who put "LIVE" on the flyer... maybe he didn'
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maybe it was the promoter and not Amon Tobin who put "LIVE" on the flyer... maybe he didn't even consider playing live because he likes DJing. dave - the devil's advocate
quoted 96 lines Yes, I probably should've informed myself before I went to see his show. I> Yes, I probably should've informed myself before I went to see his show. I > like a lot of the stuff on his albums, and so had some expectations. Without > expectations, there can be no dissapointments, right? However, it would be > far from impossible for him to do a live show. I guess he's just to lazy and > ambivalent to bother spending the time and effort to set one up. In any > case, I would have felt completely cheated out of my money if Prefuse73 had > not been there to tear it up. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "inky" <inkyinkz@yahoo.co.uk> > To: "Kewu" <kewu@telus.net>; <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] Amon Tobin > > >> i've never known amon tobin to paly 'live' he always dj's. i imagine it >> would be impossible for him to re-inact his music as theres so many > samples >> taken from all over the place going off all over the palce. >> at the big chill a few years back he dj'ed wasn't anything special. his >> albums on the other hand are amazing and some of my fav jazzy drill n bass >> music i've heard, listning to permutations i'd say he out does everyone in >> the same genre. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kewu" <kewu@telus.net> >> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:41 PM >> Subject: [idm] Amon Tobin >> >> >> What happened to Amon Tobin? I used to listen to his tracks and enjoy the >> jazzy/arabic/dnb fusion he has managed to pull off so well. However, just >> recently, I saw him perform live and all of my opinions of him changed. > The >> show (at the Commodore Theatre in Vancouver, BC) opened with Bonobo doing > a >> decent performance of some of his tracks. Didn't sound like anything > special >> or unique but he pulled it off nicely. Followed by him was Prefuse, and > let >> me tell you he absolutely ROCKED it. Using his MPC to punch out beats live >> to some of (imo) his best tracks, doing live tweaks, sequencing, etc, he >> kept me well entertained and hyped for the entire set. I was expecting the >> same from Amon Tobin. This is what I was made to expect when I saw "Amon >> Tobin LIVE" on the flyer. I can't even tell you how dissappointed me and > my >> compadred were. First of all, when Amon came on, they turned the system up >> around 15-20DB so that even in the VERY back of the enormous ballroom it > was >> uncomfortably loud. Second of all, he wasn't really doing anything more > live >> than any dj does when mixing a set. He had records with time code mixing >> tracks on his laptop (or at least he was doing his best at mixing). Last, >> but not least, and this is the part that made me walk out after 15 >> minutes..... HE WASN'T EVEN PLAYING ANY OF HIS OWN TRACKS!!! WTF? Two of > the >> five tracks I stayed to hear were squarepusher tracks that have come out > in >> the last year. I mean, sure, it was cool to hear a couple of Squarepusher >> tracks on a nice system, but please! That's just ridiculous! After myself >> and a couple of friends rushed to the front of the stage to yell at him, >> telling him to play his own tracks, he finally mixed one in. > Unfortanately, >> by that point we were so disillusioned and deaf that we just opted to > leave. >> >> Please let me know what you think of this..... I know this probably > happens >> more that I realise with some of the other bigname artists, but at least > put >> "dj Amon tobin" or something like that on the flyer. If I go to a live > show, >> I don't want to watch some dude play other people's vinyl. >> Bottom line.... all respect lost for Amon Tobin, but still worth the 30 >> bucks to see Prefuse. >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Everything you'll ever need on one web page >> from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts >> http://uk.my.yahoo.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-11-26 14:06EggyToast>Yes, I probably should've informed myself before I went to see his show. I >like a lot of
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quoted 7 lines Yes, I probably should've informed myself before I went to see his show. I>Yes, I probably should've informed myself before I went to see his show. I >like a lot of the stuff on his albums, and so had some expectations. Without >expectations, there can be no dissapointments, right? However, it would be >far from impossible for him to do a live show. I guess he's just to lazy and >ambivalent to bother spending the time and effort to set one up. In any >case, I would have felt completely cheated out of my money if Prefuse73 had >not been there to tear it up.
Well part of the reason I don't enjoy going to a lot of IDM shows is that I don't know what to expect from the performers. Anyway, with mr Tobin, he's never performed live (as has been discussed on this list many, many times in the past years), and always DJ'd. Why? Well, listen to his music. it's all very intricate and hard sequenced. If he were to play it live, he would do just that -- hit play. By DJ'ing, he can do a lot more with it than he would be able to otherwise, so, for him, the lazy part would be to simply reproduce his tracks online, as there's no "live" element to those. He figures he should at least do something, and for him, that's DJ'ing. It's a valid approach to a live show, and, as is apparently already happening on the list, people are going to argue over what constitutes a good live show vs. a boring laptop show :) I mean, you have to ask yourself whether you think someone clicking a mouse a few times to trigger pre-built sounds and sequences is more or less live than someone physically spinning pressed tracks. derek -- eggytoast.com -------------- commerce soon: eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-11-26 17:59skismI don't what's stopping him doing a live show... surely he could just bounce a bunch of tr
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I don't what's stopping him doing a live show... surely he could just bounce a bunch of tracks to loops, load them up in something like Abelton Live and mess around with them? Just because it's live doesn't mean it has to sound exactly like it did on the CD.... personally I like a mixture of both, like what afx is doing nowadays... mixing live stuff with djing, if the purpose is to dance your ass off (as opposed to standing completely still stroking ones facial hair), this is probably the best way to go... skism.
quoted 26 lines Well part of the reason I don't enjoy going to a lot of IDM shows is> Well part of the reason I don't enjoy going to a lot of IDM shows is > that I don't know what to expect from the performers. > > Anyway, with mr Tobin, he's never performed live (as has been > discussed on this list many, many times in the past years), and > always DJ'd. Why? Well, listen to his music. it's all very > intricate and hard sequenced. If he were to play it live, he would > do just that -- hit play. By DJ'ing, he can do a lot more with it > than he would be able to otherwise, so, for him, the lazy part would > be to simply reproduce his tracks online, as there's no "live" > element to those. He figures he should at least do something, and > for him, that's DJ'ing. > > It's a valid approach to a live show, and, as is apparently already > happening on the list, people are going to argue over what > constitutes a good live show vs. a boring laptop show :) > > I mean, you have to ask yourself whether you think someone clicking a > mouse a few times to trigger pre-built sounds and sequences is more > or less live than someone physically spinning pressed tracks. > > derek > -- > eggytoast.com > -------------- > commerce soon: eggtastic.com
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2002-11-26 18:00Jeff/Ninja TuneA lot of what you were hearing at the show was exclusive mixes and tracks created exclusiv
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A lot of what you were hearing at the show was exclusive mixes and tracks created exclusively for the show. It was all loaded up into Final Scratch for presentation to the crowds. Although not a "live" show, it was much more then just someone playing records. Amon spent a lot of time making that stuff for the tour and a lot of it will only ever be used for shows. It's not "laziness" that prevents a "live" show, it's the sheer impossibility to pull it off. And plus fuck it, why get a bunch of people to play live versions of tracks that were never created in that way. It defeats the purpose. Jeff
quoted 44 lines From: EggyToast <eggy@eggytoast.com>> From: EggyToast <eggy@eggytoast.com> > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:06:51 -0500 > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Amon Tobin > >> Yes, I probably should've informed myself before I went to see his show. I >> like a lot of the stuff on his albums, and so had some expectations. Without >> expectations, there can be no dissapointments, right? However, it would be >> far from impossible for him to do a live show. I guess he's just to lazy and >> ambivalent to bother spending the time and effort to set one up. In any >> case, I would have felt completely cheated out of my money if Prefuse73 had >> not been there to tear it up. > > Well part of the reason I don't enjoy going to a lot of IDM shows is > that I don't know what to expect from the performers. > > Anyway, with mr Tobin, he's never performed live (as has been > discussed on this list many, many times in the past years), and > always DJ'd. Why? Well, listen to his music. it's all very > intricate and hard sequenced. If he were to play it live, he would > do just that -- hit play. By DJ'ing, he can do a lot more with it > than he would be able to otherwise, so, for him, the lazy part would > be to simply reproduce his tracks online, as there's no "live" > element to those. He figures he should at least do something, and > for him, that's DJ'ing. > > It's a valid approach to a live show, and, as is apparently already > happening on the list, people are going to argue over what > constitutes a good live show vs. a boring laptop show :) > > I mean, you have to ask yourself whether you think someone clicking a > mouse a few times to trigger pre-built sounds and sequences is more > or less live than someone physically spinning pressed tracks. > > derek > -- > eggytoast.com > -------------- > commerce soon: eggtastic.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-11-26 00:56CAPOIIEE@aol.comI saw him in philly, and he played a pretty good set. Mostly his own material. I think it
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I saw him in philly, and he played a pretty good set. Mostly his own material. I think it just has to do with the atmosphere. He was with dj food and other ninja tune companions (all djs), so they had the crowd very hype before he came on. I wasn't expecting much from amon, but he seemed to pull off some good dj work, however long.. anyhow, don't lose respect for amon tobin! he's good live sometimes..(though yer not the first person to mention a poor live act) to combat dissappointing shows i try to remind myself of this point: "the best studio musicians usually suck live." and amon tobin is certainly a genius in the studio In a message dated 11/25/02 6:54:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, kewu@telus.net writes:
quoted 27 lines What happened to Amon Tobin? I used to listen to his tracks and enjoy the> What happened to Amon Tobin? I used to listen to his tracks and enjoy the > jazzy/arabic/dnb fusion he has managed to pull off so well. However, just > recently, I saw him perform live and all of my opinions of him changed. The > show (at the Commodore Theatre in Vancouver, BC) opened with Bonobo doing a > decent performance of some of his tracks. Didn't sound like anything > special or unique but he pulled it off nicely. Followed by him was Prefuse, > and let me tell you he absolutely ROCKED it. Using his MPC to punch out > beats live to some of (imo) his best tracks, doing live tweaks, sequencing, > etc, he kept me well entertained and hyped for the entire set. I was > expecting the same from Amon Tobin. This is what I was made to expect when > I saw "Amon Tobin LIVE" on the flyer. I can't even tell you how > dissappointed me and my compadred were. First of all, when Amon came on, > they turned the system up around 15-20DB so that even in the VERY back of > the enormous ballroom it was uncomfortably loud. Second of all, he wasn't > really doing anything more live than any dj does when mixing a set. He had > records with time code mixing tracks on his laptop (or at least he was > doing his best at mixing). Last, but not least, and this is the part that > made me walk out after 15 minutes..... HE WASN'T EVEN PLAYING ANY OF HIS > OWN TRACKS!!! WTF? Two of the five tracks I stayed to hear were > squarepusher tracks that have come out in the last year. I mean, sure, it > was cool to hear a couple of Squarepusher tracks on a nice system, but > please! That's just ridiculous! After myself and a couple of friends > rushed to the front of the stage to yell at him, telling him to play his > own tracks, he finally mixed one in. Unfortanately, by that point we were > so disillusioned and deaf that we just opted to leave. > >
2002-11-26 23:15Heather Biatch>In any case, I would have felt completely cheated out of my money if Prefuse73 had not be
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quoted 1 line In any case, I would have felt completely cheated out of my money if Prefuse73 had not bee>In any case, I would have felt completely cheated out of my money if Prefuse73 had not been there to tear it up.
speaking of, i thought it really sucked that dj food didn't show up to the portland show. they were on the original flyer that was distributed everywhere, and then no mention of the no show at the door, on the p.a., anywhere. after the event happened, i noticed on the website the flyer for portland reworked with dj food taken off. the ninjas rewriting history. secondly, they boasted all over said flyer that there would be kick-ass visuals, decorations, blah, blah, blah since it was a halloween bash. what a load of hooey. there was nothing. big fat NOTHING (unless i was too high to see it, though i doubt it). false advertising, fellas. now cornelius and sigur ros know how to give you something to look at! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
2002-11-26 23:28Jeff/Ninja TuneDJ Food was never scheduled to play Portland. It was a mix-up with the promoter. Ummmm....
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DJ Food was never scheduled to play Portland. It was a mix-up with the promoter. Ummmm....there was visuals, there was inflated Ninjas, weird Ninja lamps, etc... I thought the promoter did a really good job with that show. Only complaint I had was the lack of alcohol, but then we had plenty on the bus. Jeff
quoted 31 lines From: Heather Biatch <afeedbag@yahoo.com>> From: Heather Biatch <afeedbag@yahoo.com> > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 15:15:43 -0800 (PST) > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: [idm] Re: Amon Tobin > > >> In any case, I would have felt completely cheated out of my money if >> Prefuse73 had not been there to tear it up. > > > > speaking of, i thought it really sucked that dj food didn't show up to the > portland show. they were on the original flyer that was distributed > everywhere, and then no mention of the no show at the door, on the p.a., > anywhere. after the event happened, i noticed on the website the flyer for > portland reworked with dj food taken off. the ninjas rewriting history. > > secondly, they boasted all over said flyer that there would be kick-ass > visuals, decorations, blah, blah, blah since it was a halloween bash. what a > load of hooey. there was nothing. big fat NOTHING (unless i was too high to > see it, though i doubt it). false advertising, fellas. > > > > now cornelius and sigur ros know how to give you something to look at! > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
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2002-11-26 23:25Sean HortonOh Heather your such a biatch. Bonobo rocked that shit and you know it you skank. ^(|_|)^
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Oh Heather your such a biatch. Bonobo rocked that shit and you know it you skank. ^(|_|)^
quoted 31 lines From: Heather Biatch <afeedbag@yahoo.com>>From: Heather Biatch <afeedbag@yahoo.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: [idm] Re: Amon Tobin >Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 15:15:43 -0800 (PST) > > > >In any case, I would have felt completely cheated out of my money if >Prefuse73 had not been there to tear it up. > > > >speaking of, i thought it really sucked that dj food didn't show up to the >portland show. they were on the original flyer that was distributed >everywhere, and then no mention of the no show at the door, on the p.a., >anywhere. after the event happened, i noticed on the website the flyer for >portland reworked with dj food taken off. the ninjas rewriting history. > >secondly, they boasted all over said flyer that there would be kick-ass >visuals, decorations, blah, blah, blah since it was a halloween bash. what >a load of hooey. there was nothing. big fat NOTHING (unless i was too high >to see it, though i doubt it). false advertising, fellas. > > > >now cornelius and sigur ros know how to give you something to look at! > > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
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2002-11-27 00:08Heather Biatchheh. no offense, jeff. don't get me wrong -- the music was right on, i was just hoping for
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heh. no offense, jeff. don't get me wrong -- the music was right on, i was just hoping for some of the v-jam visuals that coldcut bring along. always nice to have you guys in town ;) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
2003-12-20 13:49Richard Gray(*@&#(*&#&!!!! Amon Tobin played a DJ/Laptop set here last night in Auckland, New Zealand.
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(*@&#(*&#&!!!! Amon Tobin played a DJ/Laptop set here last night in Auckland, New Zealand. The first time he's been here in about 6 years, and the first time I've managed to see him play. I wasn't really sure what to expect, but wasn't getting my hopes up too much. I think I've read some average reviews on here before. As it turns out I was very pleasantly surprised. A lot faster and harder than I was expecting. Moreso than on his albums with the exception of a couple of tracks. He played quite a bit from the last 3 albums, and lots of stuff I didn't recognise... Lots of mental breakbeats and Drum and Bass. Absolutely rocked the place :D Also... monolake is playing this Monday night... what can I expect? Should I be prepared to chill, or to shake my ass? Thanks! Richard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-12-20 21:36kingmob@nmt.eduI thought Amon only djed. You make it sound like he actually played live. Confirm/deny? On
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I thought Amon only djed. You make it sound like he actually played live. Confirm/deny? On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Richard Gray wrote:
quoted 29 lines (*@&#(*&#&!!!!> (*@&#(*&#&!!!! > > Amon Tobin played a DJ/Laptop set here last night in Auckland, New > Zealand. The first time he's been here in about 6 years, and the first > time I've managed to see him play. > > I wasn't really sure what to expect, but wasn't getting my hopes up too > much. I think I've read some average reviews on here before. As it > turns out I was very pleasantly surprised. A lot faster and harder than > I was expecting. Moreso than on his albums with the exception of a > couple of tracks. He played quite a bit from the last 3 albums, and > lots of stuff I didn't recognise... Lots of mental breakbeats and Drum > and Bass. > > Absolutely rocked the place :D > > Also... monolake is playing this Monday night... what can I expect? > Should I be prepared to chill, or to shake my ass? > > > Thanks! > > Richard > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2003-12-20 22:30Richard GrayNo.. it was basically a DJ set He had a couple of decks and a laptop... I wasn't in gear s
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No.. it was basically a DJ set He had a couple of decks and a laptop... I wasn't in gear spotting mode, but a friend informs me he's using final scratch. To what extent I'm not sure. I'm one of those freaks that tends to enjoy a DJ set more than a live set though, so I was a happy camper. 'Live' performances of electronic dance music usually feel a bit 'press play on tape' to me, and are less flexible in terms of playing to the crowds mood. Final scratch is an exciting piece of software to me because it blurs that line between a live set and dj set a little bit further. Anyhow... it was an awesome show, and there was a good turnout (300 people perhaps? A nice sized crowd anyway) so hopefully we'll see some more acts coming down this way. *crossedfingers* prefuse73 *crossedfingers* cheerio! Richard kingmob@nmt.edu wrote:
quoted 40 lines I thought Amon only djed. You make it sound like he actually played live.>I thought Amon only djed. You make it sound like he actually played live. >Confirm/deny? >On Sun, 21 Dec 2003, Richard Gray wrote: > > > >>(*@&#(*&#&!!!! >> >>Amon Tobin played a DJ/Laptop set here last night in Auckland, New >>Zealand. The first time he's been here in about 6 years, and the first >>time I've managed to see him play. >> >>I wasn't really sure what to expect, but wasn't getting my hopes up too >>much. I think I've read some average reviews on here before. As it >>turns out I was very pleasantly surprised. A lot faster and harder than >>I was expecting. Moreso than on his albums with the exception of a >>couple of tracks. He played quite a bit from the last 3 albums, and >>lots of stuff I didn't recognise... Lots of mental breakbeats and Drum >>and Bass. >> >>Absolutely rocked the place :D >> >>Also... monolake is playing this Monday night... what can I expect? >>Should I be prepared to chill, or to shake my ass? >> >> >>Thanks! >> >>Richard >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> > > >
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2003-12-20 22:54Rick Strom> 'Live' performances of > electronic dance music usually feel a bit 'press play on tape'
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quoted 3 lines 'Live' performances of> 'Live' performances of > electronic dance music usually feel a bit 'press play on tape' to me, > and are less flexible in terms of playing to the crowds mood.
I don't mean to be contentious here (or start a riot)... but if live electronics are too 'press play on tape'... what then are DJ sets? I would think they would be more so by definition. I enjoy a proper DJ set too, but a properly executed live act is a wonder to behold.. a rare wonder, yes, but a wonder nonetheless. V, ~Rick Strom http://www.glowdot.com http://www.rick-strom.com (-- Dreamscape Radio --) HI FI: radio.glowdot.com:8000/listen.pls LO FI: radio.glowdot.com:8400/listen.pls GLOWDOT LIVE: Eh, from time to time... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-12-21 15:29Eggy ToastRick Strom said: >> 'Live' performances of >> electronic dance music usually feel a bit 'p
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quoted 10 lines 'Live' performances of>> 'Live' performances of >> electronic dance music usually feel a bit 'press play on tape' to me, >> and are less flexible in terms of playing to the crowds mood. > > I don't mean to be contentious here (or start a riot)... but if live > electronics are too 'press play on tape'... what then are DJ sets? I > would think they would be more so by definition. > > I enjoy a proper DJ set too, but a properly executed live act is a > wonder to behold.. a rare wonder, yes, but a wonder nonetheless.
I think it has to do with the impressions held when you go see the show. If you see that they're DJing, you don't expect a performance of live music -- you expect good mixes and song selection. If you see a live show, I think you expect more from the person you're seeing. I know I do, despite it being a rather silly semantic. derek -- eggytoast.com : eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-12-20 17:05seeklektekFrom: "Richard Gray" > Also... monolake is playing this Monday night... what can I expect?
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quoted 4 lines Also... monolake is playing this Monday night... what can I expect?> Also... monolake is playing this Monday night... what can I expect? > Should I be prepared to chill, or to shake my ass? > Thanks! > Richard
Both. Go to that show, for sure. =) seek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-12-21 15:43sasha rozet> Rick Strom said: > >> 'Live' performances of > >> electronic dance music usually feel a
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quoted 17 lines Rick Strom said:> Rick Strom said: > >> 'Live' performances of > >> electronic dance music usually feel a bit 'press play on tape' to me, > >> and are less flexible in terms of playing to the crowds mood. > > > > I don't mean to be contentious here (or start a riot)... but if live > > electronics are too 'press play on tape'... what then are DJ sets? I > > would think they would be more so by definition. > > > > I enjoy a proper DJ set too, but a properly executed live act is a > > wonder to behold.. a rare wonder, yes, but a wonder nonetheless. > > I think it has to do with the impressions held when you go see the show. > If you see that they're DJing, you don't expect a performance of live > music -- you expect good mixes and song selection. If you see a live > show, I think you expect more from the person you're seeing. I know I do, > despite it being a rather silly semantic.
good point. i dont expect anything already, i just don't go to electronic shows anymore. its always the same (boring) picture of a guy staring at his laptop. dont want to compare these things, but last week went to see Human League , and they played everything LIVE! even drums and bass lines. just some ideas for idm/electronica acts... s. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-12-21 18:51Rick StromI'm not calling anyone out in particular, other than the entire scene as a whole, but exac
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I'm not calling anyone out in particular, other than the entire scene as a whole, but exactly this kind of cynicism is to blame for the utterly boring LIVE scene worldwide... DJs or live sets, it all sucks, and its not worth a penny 9 times out of 10. The only difference is, to me, a DJ set isn't worth a penny 10 times out of 10. I keep hoping for a decent live performance and occasionally someone rises up and puts together a really good show. I personally agonize about it every year when putting together my events... what am I going to do to keep this interesting? My work is very very dependent on the vocals, so I have a vocalist at every show. Right there I've upped it, and it wasn't that hard. My audiences kind of expect that now, and I'm glad. Occasionally I'll pull out an instrument, because I'm one of the rare few that can play them, and people go nuts -- which is silly, sad, and heartening at the same time. To me, it means people are yearning to see something interesting again. Ah, anyways, don't write off live shows, guys... just start demanding more from them and I promise you that you will get it. Aphex Twin played UCLAs All Tomorrows Parties a few years ago, hit play on his deck and danced around in a sort of druid monks outfit... people were livid, and I doubt he'll do that (at least in Los Angeles) again. At the same time, there's an independent producer here named George Sarah who brings a string trio with him, starts up his machine, and pulls out a bass guitar. He's fun to watch. I like to think I'm interesting to watch. I feel horrid guilt if after a show people are disappointed.
quoted 5 lines I think it has to do with the impressions held when you go see the show.>> I think it has to do with the impressions held when you go see the show. >> If you see that they're DJing, you don't expect a performance of live >> music -- you expect good mixes and song selection. If you see a live >> show, I think you expect more from the person you're seeing. I know I >> do, despite it being a rather silly semantic.
quoted 5 lines good point. i dont expect anything already, i just don't go to electronic>good point. i dont expect anything already, i just don't go to electronic >shows anymore. its always the same (boring) picture of a guy staring at his >laptop. dont want to compare these things, but last week went to see Human >League , and they played everything LIVE! even drums and bass lines. just >some ideas for idm/electronica acts...
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2003-12-21 21:15kingmob@nmt.eduI'm pretty sure that wasn't aphex dancing on the stage. That was some other dude. Aphex sp
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I'm pretty sure that wasn't aphex dancing on the stage. That was some other dude. Aphex spent the whole time laying down on the floor hiding behind his laptop. I've got some pictures I can post of this later if anyone cares, they're kinda shabby though.
quoted 29 lines Aphex Twin played UCLAs All Tomorrows Parties a few years ago, hit play> Aphex Twin played UCLAs All Tomorrows Parties a few years ago, hit play > on his deck and danced around in a sort of druid monks outfit... people > were livid, and I doubt he'll do that (at least in Los Angeles) again. > At the same time, there's an independent producer here named George > Sarah who brings a string trio with him, starts up his machine, and > pulls out a bass guitar. He's fun to watch. I like to think I'm > interesting to watch. I feel horrid guilt if after a show people are > disappointed. > > > >> I think it has to do with the impressions held when you go see the show. > >> If you see that they're DJing, you don't expect a performance of live > >> music -- you expect good mixes and song selection. If you see a live > >> show, I think you expect more from the person you're seeing. I know I > >> do, despite it being a rather silly semantic. > > >good point. i dont expect anything already, i just don't go to electronic > >shows anymore. its always the same (boring) picture of a guy staring at his > >laptop. dont want to compare these things, but last week went to see Human > >League , and they played everything LIVE! even drums and bass lines. just > >some ideas for idm/electronica acts... > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2003-12-21 21:25Rick StromEither way it was pretty lame, and I'm sure he (or they) thought it was brilliant. If you
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Either way it was pretty lame, and I'm sure he (or they) thought it was brilliant. If you have some pictures, shabby or not, definitely post them. V, ~Rick Strom http://www.glowdot.com http://www.rick-strom.com (-- Dreamscape Radio --) HI FI: http://radio.glowdot.com:8000/listen.pls LO FI: http://radio.glowdot.com:8400/listen.pls ( --- ::..... -----Original Message----- From: kingmob@nmt.edu [mailto:kingmob@nmt.edu] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 1:16 PM Cc: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [idm] Amon Tobin/afx I'm pretty sure that wasn't aphex dancing on the stage. That was some other dude. Aphex spent the whole time laying down on the floor hiding behind his laptop. I've got some pictures I can post of this later if anyone cares, they're kinda shabby though.
quoted 11 lines Aphex Twin played UCLAs All Tomorrows Parties a few years ago, hit play> Aphex Twin played UCLAs All Tomorrows Parties a few years ago, hit play > on his deck and danced around in a sort of druid monks outfit... people > were livid, and I doubt he'll do that (at least in Los Angeles) again. > At the same time, there's an independent producer here named George > Sarah who brings a string trio with him, starts up his machine, and > pulls out a bass guitar. He's fun to watch. I like to think I'm > interesting to watch. I feel horrid guilt if after a show people are > disappointed. > > > >> I think it has to do with the impressions held when you go see the
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quoted 7 lines If you see that they're DJing, you don't expect a performance of live> >> If you see that they're DJing, you don't expect a performance of live > >> music -- you expect good mixes and song selection. If you see a live > >> show, I think you expect more from the person you're seeing. I know I > >> do, despite it being a rather silly semantic. > > >good point. i dont expect anything already, i just don't go to electronic > >shows anymore. its always the same (boring) picture of a guy staring at
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quoted 1 line laptop. dont want to compare these things, but last week went to see> >laptop. dont want to compare these things, but last week went to see
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quoted 10 lines League , and they played everything LIVE! even drums and bass lines. just> >League , and they played everything LIVE! even drums and bass lines. just > >some ideas for idm/electronica acts... > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2003-12-21 22:41The REAL MxyzptlkIt used to be a giant teddy bear with his face stuck on the front. :-) : >Either way it wa
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It used to be a giant teddy bear with his face stuck on the front. :-) :
quoted 5 lines Either way it was pretty lame, and I'm sure he (or they) thought it was>Either way it was pretty lame, and I'm sure he (or they) thought it was >brilliant. If you have some pictures, shabby or not, definitely post them. > > >I'm pretty sure that wasn't aphex dancing on the stage.
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quoted 2 lines Aphex Twin played UCLAs All Tomorrows Parties a few years ago, hit play> > Aphex Twin played UCLAs All Tomorrows Parties a few years ago, hit play > > on his deck and danced around in a sort of druid monks outfit.
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2003-12-23 02:02Eggy Toastsasha rozet said: > good point. i dont expect anything already, i just don't go to > elect
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sasha rozet said:
quoted 5 lines good point. i dont expect anything already, i just don't go to> good point. i dont expect anything already, i just don't go to > electronic shows anymore. its always the same (boring) picture of a guy > staring at his laptop. dont want to compare these things, but last week > went to see Human League , and they played everything LIVE! even drums > and bass lines. just some ideas for idm/electronica acts...
I also like a good show with a good dynamic on stage, but you gotta remember that most of these electronic musicians are just a single guy or two, not making a lot of money, and not exactly making music that's easy to translate over into "real" instruments. While I'd like to see a string trio or horn section at the average IDM show, I also know that in most cases the tour consists of the artist driving around the country in a stinky old van, getting little sleep, and making little money. Unless the other instrumentalists are an inherent part of the group, it's going to be hard to convince them to tag along for the ride :D I mean, it's sort of like complaining that your average indie film doesn't have the best actors, the biggest explosions, and the most up-to-date CG animation. I also usually only pay $5-$10 to see these guys in small bars, not $50 in a giant stadium with huge video screens, but I think being up close, even when the guy isn't the most active, is worth something. -- eggytoast.com : eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-12-22 12:09seeklektekFrom: "Katrin Richter" > In Berlin it's all about live happenings now. Really interesting
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quoted 4 lines In Berlin it's all about live happenings now. Really interesting development> In Berlin it's all about live happenings now. Really interesting development > if you ask me. There is a really trashy band revival going on - the combos > play live before they even got their first records out... It's a lot of > fun... seeing people stage dive really does it for me...!
They shoot horses, don't they?: http://www.arts.rpi.edu/~ruiz/IDimaging/divinghorse.jpg seek np: Freeform - pattern tub --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org