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quoted 6 lines Please forgive me if I sound naive, but

> Please forgive me if I sound naive, but > I am new to the scene aswell as > this list...I was wondering if there is > such a thing as "Intelligent Trance"?? > And if so, what are some artist names > and albums???

I may be wrong, but I always thought Intelligent Trance is something like early Speedy J (Live and some tracks from G Spot), some of Luke Slater's tracks on GPR (rather techno than trance, but also very trance flavoured) and even System 7's "fire+water" album. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I don't particularly agree at all with the use of Intelligent in the front of any music style, what makes music intelligent? I think it's just kinda pretentious...don't mean I don't like da music...I just don't agree with the name...and I think trance only comes in unintelligent flavors...good trance is techno... ;) josh23 --- Nick Zavriev <ambi@mu.ru> wrote:

quoted 17 lines Please forgive me if I sound naive, but

> > Please forgive me if I sound naive, but > > I am new to the scene aswell as > > this list...I was wondering if there is > > such a thing as "Intelligent Trance"?? > > And if so, what are some artist names > > and albums??? > > I may be wrong, but I always thought Intelligent > Trance is something like > early Speedy J (Live and some tracks from G Spot), > some of Luke Slater's > tracks on GPR (rather techno than trance, but also > very trance flavoured) > and even System 7's "fire+water" album. > > >

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intelligent trance. isnt that an oxymoron?

quoted 9 lines From: joshtwentythree <scifijosh23@yahoo.com>

>From: joshtwentythree <scifijosh23@yahoo.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:34:41 -0800 (PST) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBBF81A010010D820F3EBD18553100C250; Wed Dec 06 15:42:57 2000 >Received: (qmail 801 invoked by uid 281); 6 Dec 2000 23:42:56 -0000 >Received: (qmail 775 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2000 23:42:54 -0000

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quoted 53 lines Mailing-List: contact idm-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm

>Mailing-List: contact idm-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >X-No-Archive: yes >list-help: <mailto:idm-help@hyperreal.org> >list-unsubscribe: <mailto:idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> >list-post: <mailto:idm@hyperreal.org> >Delivered-To: mailing list idm@hyperreal.org >Message-ID: <20001206233441.7852.qmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> > >I don't particularly agree at all with the use of >Intelligent in the front of any music style, what >makes music intelligent? I think it's just kinda >pretentious...don't mean I don't like da music...I >just don't agree with the name...and I think trance >only comes in unintelligent flavors...good trance is >techno... ;) > >josh23 >--- Nick Zavriev <ambi@mu.ru> wrote: > > > Please forgive me if I sound naive, but > > > I am new to the scene aswell as > > > this list...I was wondering if there is > > > such a thing as "Intelligent Trance"?? > > > And if so, what are some artist names > > > and albums??? > > > > I may be wrong, but I always thought Intelligent > > Trance is something like > > early Speedy J (Live and some tracks from G Spot), > > some of Luke Slater's > > tracks on GPR (rather techno than trance, but also > > very trance flavoured) > > and even System 7's "fire+water" album. > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. >http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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quiet, you hater!! that was joke speaking of jokes, does anyone want to buy my mike flowers pops/orbital/cylob 12"? i disliked brace yourself (ep). it just sounded like some tracks off lunatic harness only sped up. at first it was decent, then...blah. can mike p let us know if there is anything good coming out? back to classic drill i say! zub, shaun

quoted 1 line intelligent trance. isnt that an oxymoron?

> intelligent trance. isnt that an oxymoron?

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i believe it's both an ox and a moron. but what do i know? so the kaoss pad? is good for dj setup? let me ask this: does it have a quick kill switch type feature? so if i want to flange into a track from another, once i'm done with said effect, can i just kill the sumbitch? or do i have to effect it out to normal? know what i'm saying? is anybody on the list using this? any other options? i was thinking about this last night. and if the kaoss is only $350, i might have to pass over the MD recorder for that. but i've heard its junk from a couple of people. all this talk ... a. "Exterminate all rational thought. That is the conclusion I have come to." - Bill Lee, Naked Lunch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rotkin te" <red_shift_x7@hotmail.com> To: <scifijosh23@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance

quoted 68 lines intelligent trance. isnt that an oxymoron?

> intelligent trance. isnt that an oxymoron? > > > >From: joshtwentythree <scifijosh23@yahoo.com> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance > >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:34:41 -0800 (PST) > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailBBF81A010010D820F3EBD18553100C250; Wed Dec 06 15:42:57 2000 > >Received: (qmail 801 invoked by uid 281); 6 Dec 2000 23:42:56 -0000 > >Received: (qmail 775 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2000 23:42:54 -0000 > >From idm-return-24905-red_shift_x7 Wed Dec 06 15:44:53 2000 > >Mailing-List: contact idm-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm > >Precedence: bulk > >X-No-Archive: yes > >list-help: <mailto:idm-help@hyperreal.org> > >list-unsubscribe: <mailto:idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> > >list-post: <mailto:idm@hyperreal.org> > >Delivered-To: mailing list idm@hyperreal.org > >Message-ID: <20001206233441.7852.qmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> > > > >I don't particularly agree at all with the use of > >Intelligent in the front of any music style, what > >makes music intelligent? I think it's just kinda > >pretentious...don't mean I don't like da music...I > >just don't agree with the name...and I think trance > >only comes in unintelligent flavors...good trance is > >techno... ;) > > > >josh23 > >--- Nick Zavriev <ambi@mu.ru> wrote: > > > > Please forgive me if I sound naive, but > > > > I am new to the scene aswell as > > > > this list...I was wondering if there is > > > > such a thing as "Intelligent Trance"?? > > > > And if so, what are some artist names > > > > and albums??? > > > > > > I may be wrong, but I always thought Intelligent > > > Trance is something like > > > early Speedy J (Live and some tracks from G Spot), > > > some of Luke Slater's > > > tracks on GPR (rather techno than trance, but also > > > very trance flavoured) > > > and even System 7's "fire+water" album. > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. > >http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >

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On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, alland[byallo] wrote:

quoted 4 lines i believe it's both an ox and a moron.

> i believe it's both an ox and a moron. > but what do i know? > > so the kaoss pad? is good for dj setup?

This DJ says "Oh yes".

quoted 5 lines let me ask this:

> let me ask this: > does it have a quick kill switch type feature? so if i want to flange into a > track from another, once i'm done with said effect, can i just kill the > sumbitch? or do i have to effect it out to normal? > know what i'm saying?

The default is that the effect is only "on" when the pad sense a touch. It depends on the effect, but for the most part, once you release your finger from the pad, the effect turns off. Effect #30 (which I call "Fucked up spacey delay" for lack of better words) leaves a slight trail after letting go, as do some other echo-y effects. But even then, there's the "F/X ON OFF" button on the right of the pad that you can use to kill absolutely everything. So the answer is: Yes and yes. As long as your mixer makes it easy to kill f/x, though.

quoted 7 lines is anybody on the list using this? any other options? i was thinking about

> is anybody on the list using this? any other options? i was thinking about > this last night. and if the kaoss is only $350, i might have to pass over > the MD recorder for that. > but i've heard its junk from a couple of people. > > all this talk ... > a.

For a toy I bought over a year ago, I'm a little surprised it's getting such "professional" use... My main complaints with the Kaoss pad are: * The RCA jacks. Why not options for quarter inch? * The precision/resolution of each axis for effects. Having only 10 possible values for each axis/effect, especially for echo, seems awfully limited. Still though, it's a damn fun toy. I think I got my money's worth by now, which was $300 (and I wasn't even looking for a deal.)... Hell, it saved a Bassland gig I participated in the day after I bought it! $350? Ouch. Have they really gone up since? ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> ======================================================================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I remember back in 1994 "trance" wasn't commercial at all and it seemed like a pretty good direction to take the music. Now there's loads of it and much of it is formulaic dross. That doesn't preclude the idea of there still being good trance. A lot of of the classic stuff is still good. I have an abiding hatred of a lot of the awful rubbish which has been perpetrated since trance music crossed over into the mainstream, but if anybody knows of anything good which has come out of that style in recent years then I for one want to know about it. Ross. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rotkin te" <red_shift_x7@hotmail.com> To: <scifijosh23@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance

quoted 18 lines intelligent trance. isnt that an oxymoron?

> intelligent trance. isnt that an oxymoron? > > > >From: joshtwentythree <scifijosh23@yahoo.com> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance > >Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:34:41 -0800 (PST) > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > >I don't particularly agree at all with the use of > >Intelligent in the front of any music style, what > >makes music intelligent? I think it's just kinda > >pretentious...don't mean I don't like da music...I > >just don't agree with the name...and I think trance > >only comes in unintelligent flavors...good trance is > >techno... ;) > > > >josh23

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Funny fact: The compilation series titled "Trance Atlantic Express" and "Trance Europe Express", from like '93 or so has a Mu-ziq and Aphex Twin track. As well as Air Liquide, 808 State, Moby, Plastikman, and a whole slew of people that no one in their right mind would associate with trance...times were different back then. http://www.demon.co.uk/volume/natlantic.html -l on 12/6/00 5:00 PM, Ross Balmer at ross@tui.co.uk wrote:

quoted 44 lines I remember back in 1994 "trance" wasn't commercial at all and it seemed lik

> I remember back in 1994 "trance" wasn't commercial at all and it seemed like > a pretty good direction to take the music. Now there's loads of it and much > of it is formulaic dross. That doesn't preclude the idea of there still > being good trance. A lot of of the classic stuff is still good. > > I have an abiding hatred of a lot of the awful rubbish which has been > perpetrated since trance music crossed over into the mainstream, but if > anybody knows of anything good which has come out of that style in recent > years then I for one want to know about it. > > Ross. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rotkin te" <red_shift_x7@hotmail.com> > To: <scifijosh23@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 12:30 AM > Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance > > >> intelligent trance. isnt that an oxymoron? >> >> >>> From: joshtwentythree <scifijosh23@yahoo.com> >>> To: idm@hyperreal.org >>> Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance >>> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:34:41 -0800 (PST) >>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>> >>> I don't particularly agree at all with the use of >>> Intelligent in the front of any music style, what >>> makes music intelligent? I think it's just kinda >>> pretentious...don't mean I don't like da music...I >>> just don't agree with the name...and I think trance >>> only comes in unintelligent flavors...good trance is >>> techno... ;) >>> >>> josh23 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Indeed, and "Trance" was at the time being heavily used as a marketing buzzword to describe anything electronic, as I remember "techno" had become somewhat sullened by "rave" music. Ahhhh the good ole days... I also distinctly remember the U-Turn NME took when it realised all this techno lark wasn't going away and ceased slagging it off and started giving it more and more serious consideration in their rag, quite funny on the face of it now.... -i --- Lee Azzarello <roswell@alumni.antioch-college.edu> wrote:

quoted 11 lines Funny fact:

> Funny fact: > > The compilation series titled "Trance Atlantic Express" and "Trance Europe > Express", from like '93 or so has a Mu-ziq and Aphex Twin track. As well as > Air Liquide, 808 State, Moby, Plastikman, and a whole slew of people that no > one in their right mind would associate with trance...times were different > back then. > > http://www.demon.co.uk/volume/natlantic.html > > -l

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Well trance was seen as something alot different. This was before the mass genre-ficatication took place. Rob www.componentrecords.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Azzarello <roswell@alumni.antioch-college.edu> To: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance

quoted 70 lines Funny fact:

> Funny fact: > > The compilation series titled "Trance Atlantic Express" and "Trance Europe > Express", from like '93 or so has a Mu-ziq and Aphex Twin track. As well as > Air Liquide, 808 State, Moby, Plastikman, and a whole slew of people that no > one in their right mind would associate with trance...times were different > back then. > > http://www.demon.co.uk/volume/natlantic.html > > -l > > > on 12/6/00 5:00 PM, Ross Balmer at ross@tui.co.uk wrote: > > > I remember back in 1994 "trance" wasn't commercial at all and it seemed like > > a pretty good direction to take the music. Now there's loads of it and much > > of it is formulaic dross. That doesn't preclude the idea of there still > > being good trance. A lot of of the classic stuff is still good. > > > > I have an abiding hatred of a lot of the awful rubbish which has been > > perpetrated since trance music crossed over into the mainstream, but if > > anybody knows of anything good which has come out of that style in recent > > years then I for one want to know about it. > > > > Ross. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rotkin te" <red_shift_x7@hotmail.com> > > To: <scifijosh23@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 12:30 AM > > Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance > > > > > >> intelligent trance. isnt that an oxymoron? > >> > >> > >>> From: joshtwentythree <scifijosh23@yahoo.com> > >>> To: idm@hyperreal.org > >>> Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance > >>> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:34:41 -0800 (PST) > >>> MIME-Version: 1.0 > >>> > >>> I don't particularly agree at all with the use of > >>> Intelligent in the front of any music style, what > >>> makes music intelligent? I think it's just kinda > >>> pretentious...don't mean I don't like da music...I > >>> just don't agree with the name...and I think trance > >>> only comes in unintelligent flavors...good trance is > >>> techno... ;) > >>> > >>> josh23 > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > -l[e^2] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Good (intelligent?) Trance is any of the records from the label Matsuri. Check them out and you'll see. Prana, Joujouka, ... all some kind of trancy idm. (or is it idm-ish trance?) ;) Luis Marta. np: Kid 606 "PS i love you" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On 7 Dec 2000, Luis Marta wrote re Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance:

quoted 1 line any of the records from the label Matsuri

> any of the records from the label Matsuri

Right : That's Suzuki's label and he regularly comes out here to Cape Town for a huge January outdoor trance party - I've been to the last two (not being a trance fan *at all*, but they put on a nice party visually etc with excellent sound and lights). Last year he played a poor set, due to his music having been "lost" en route by the airline; but the year before he played a STUNNING 3 or 4 hour techno set - all the trance hippies were most put out :>) I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I'll second that, they put out a lot of straight-up goa too though. If you can find their first Sympathy in Chaos comp from a few years back, get it, it's one of my favorite CDs still. Installments two and three went more and more downhill though, don't waste your time. Oh yeah the "Ecliptic" mix cd is pretty damn good too. John

quoted 1 line Good (intelligent?) Trance is any of the records from the label Matsuri.

> Good (intelligent?) Trance is any of the records from the label Matsuri.

Check

quoted 2 lines them out and you'll see.

> them out and you'll see. > Prana, Joujouka, ... all some kind of trancy idm. (or is it idm-ish

trance?) ;)

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While in Tel-Aviv a couple weeks ago I bought V/A "Future Sound of Ambient" III & IV 2CD full of great ambient (slow) trance stuff from Cosmosis, Infinity Project, Digitalis, X-Draem, etc. All those are great progressive goa artists but for those who like it (I got tired of it years ago and only listen to the most twisted ones) but the ambient tracks they make always did good to me...I consider them intelligent enough. Alien btw. IMHO idm is short of aidm (artificial intelligence dance music) which as I think resolves all this chat about its true meaning. Its a dance music for robots and such or made presumably by robots - that's how I'll explain it ever after.... 8)

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> -----Original Message----- > From: John D. [mailto:jdalton@mail.net.tw] > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 3:55 PM > To: idm > Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance > > > I'll second that, they put out a lot of straight-up goa too though. If you > can find their first Sympathy in Chaos comp from a few years back, get it, > it's one of my favorite CDs still. Installments two and three > went more and > more downhill though, don't waste your time. Oh yeah the "Ecliptic" mix cd > is pretty damn good too. > > John > > > > Good (intelligent?) Trance is any of the records from the > label Matsuri. > Check > > them out and you'll see. > > Prana, Joujouka, ... all some kind of trancy idm. (or is it idm-ish > trance?) ;) > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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> Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance >I don't particularly agree at all with the use of >Intelligent in the front of any music style, what >makes music intelligent? I think it's just kinda >pretentious...don't mean I don't like da music...I >just don't agree with the name...and I think trance >only comes in unintelligent flavors...good trance is >techno... ;) >josh23

well Josh, simply put, because 'intelligent' music is somethign worth listening to? See, there are some of us who hear the music on the radio and MTV ... and this "WHAT?!" - I'm sure you're one of those people. Intelligent is a relative term (IMO) describing music that is in contrast to much mainstream music in that there is more soul than poppy market-appealing bullshit. Since even in electronic music we have said bullshit, we needed a name to dub this 'good' music worth listening to by. I say its a good term. And by the way, sure, I think there's intelligent trance. There's this group caled Aqualite - which by the way, someone should point us/me to a siet or discog. or something, that makes intelligent trance, especially good trance, even if youre not a trance fan. And since trance AND intelligent are such broad categories, most anythign -could- be inter- preted as intelligent trance. IMO, aqualite and some DJs like digweed and oakenfold fall under this category (though definitely not interrelated :) peace delphi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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> -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Pojman [mailto:ipojman@jmlafferty.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 3:55 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance > > > on 12/7/00 1:48 AM, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org at > idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org wrote: > > > Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance > >I don't particularly agree at all with the use of > >Intelligent in the front of any music style, what > >makes music intelligent? I think it's just kinda > >pretentious...don't mean I don't like da music...I > >just don't agree with the name...and I think trance > >only comes in unintelligent flavors...good trance is > >techno... ;) > >josh23 > > well Josh, simply put, because 'intelligent' music is > somethign worth listening to? See, there are some > of us who hear the music on the radio and MTV ... > and this "WHAT?!" - I'm sure you're one of those > people. Intelligent is a relative term (IMO) describing > music that is in contrast to much mainstream music > in that there is more soul than poppy market-appealing > bullshit. Since even in electronic music we have > said bullshit, we needed a name to dub this 'good' > music worth listening to by. I say its a good term. > > And by the way, sure, I think there's intelligent trance. > There's this group caled Aqualite - which by the way, > someone should point us/me to a siet or discog. or something, > that makes intelligent trance, especially good trance, even > if youre not a trance fan. And since trance AND intelligent > are such broad categories, most anythign -could- be inter- > preted as intelligent trance. IMO, aqualite and some DJs like > digweed and oakenfold fall under this category (though > definitely not interrelated :) > > peace > > delphi > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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> http://www.burmedia.org/fucktrance/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ian Pojman [mailto:ipojman@jmlafferty.com] > > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 3:55 PM > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance > > > > > > on 12/7/00 1:48 AM, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org at > > idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org wrote: > > > > > Re: [idm] Intelligent Trance > > >I don't particularly agree at all with the use of > > >Intelligent in the front of any music style, what > > >makes music intelligent? I think it's just kinda > > >pretentious...don't mean I don't like da music...I > > >just don't agree with the name...and I think trance > > >only comes in unintelligent flavors...good trance is > > >techno... ;) > > >josh23 > > > > well Josh, simply put, because 'intelligent' music is > > somethign worth listening to? See, there are some > > of us who hear the music on the radio and MTV ... > > and this "WHAT?!" - I'm sure you're one of those > > people. Intelligent is a relative term (IMO) describing > > music that is in contrast to much mainstream music > > in that there is more soul than poppy market-appealing > > bullshit. Since even in electronic music we have > > said bullshit, we needed a name to dub this 'good' > > music worth listening to by. I say its a good term. > > > > And by the way, sure, I think there's intelligent trance. > > There's this group caled Aqualite - which by the way, > > someone should point us/me to a siet or discog. or something, > > that makes intelligent trance, especially good trance, even > > if youre not a trance fan. And since trance AND intelligent > > are such broad categories, most anythign -could- be inter- > > preted as intelligent trance. IMO, aqualite and some DJs like > > digweed and oakenfold fall under this category (though > > definitely not interrelated :) > > > > peace > > > > delphi > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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quoted 1 line so the kaoss pad? is good for dj setup?

> so the kaoss pad? is good for dj setup?

my work with it has been limited...so I don't know a whole lot about it...for ambient/noise type sets it's a lot of fun and adds to the set I think...for techno, useless and cumbersome imo...I didn't see a kill switch, but as soon as you take your finger off the pad whatever effect you were using immeadiately stops so it's a sort of kill switch... josh23 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

What label is this series on? >While in Tel-Aviv a couple weeks ago I bought V/A "Future Sound of Ambient" >III & IV 2CD full of great ambient (slow) trance stuff from Cosmosis, >Infinity Project, Digitalis, X-Draem, etc. All those are great progressive >goa artists but for those who like it (I got tired of it years ago and only >listen to the most twisted ones) but the ambient tracks they make always did >good to me...I consider them intelligent enough.