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1999-01-02 04:51adroxy@telusplanet.neti just got a haters 10" sweet austerity, and the bloody thing plays forwards and backwards

From:: <adroxy@telusplanet.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:51:20 -0800
Subject:: (idm) haters 10"

i just got a haters 10" sweet austerity, and the bloody thing plays forwards and backwards, theres a lock groove in the centre, the lp plays normally into the lock groove, then if you put the needle anywhere after the lock groove itll actually play backwards to the lock groove, queerest thing ive ever seen, im curious how the manufacturers designed the bloody thing.... _will "nazi movement compressed into three minutes of film time." -the western lands the permutation diode - www.telusplanet.net/public/adroxy/

1999-01-03 01:21Mark KolmarOn Fri, 1 Jan 1999 adroxy@telusplanet.net wrote: > plays forwards and backwards, theres a

From:: Mark Kolmar <mkolmar@xnet.com>
To:: <adroxy@telusplanet.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:21:12 -0600 (CST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) haters 10"
Reply to:: (idm) haters 10"

On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 adroxy@telusplanet.net wrote:

quoted 3 lines plays forwards and backwards, theres a lock groove in the centre,

> plays forwards and backwards, theres a lock groove in the centre, > the lp plays normally into the lock groove, then if you put the > needle anywhere after the lock groove itll actually play backwards

Some of the old UR and Hardwax 12"s do stuff like that. Probably a pain in the ass for DJs. Also the Akita/Azuma/Haswell/Sakaibara LP has lock grooves after every track on one side. Definitely a pain in the ass for the home listener...just surface noise in the lock grooves too. All they have to do is cut from the outside-in, then the inside-out, stopping at the same point for the lock groove. I'm not sure how difficult that is in practical terms though. As I have no plans to release vinyl, it's never been an issue. Cool effect though. --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks >

1999-01-04 15:10Andrew Duke Cognition AudioworksMark Kolmar wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 adroxy@telusplanet.net wrote: > > > plays forwards

From:: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks <cognition@globalserve.net>
To:: Mark Kolmar <mkolmar@xnet.com>
Cc:: <adroxy@telusplanet.net>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 11:10:28 -0400
Subject:: (idm) re:backwardsVINYL

Mark Kolmar wrote:

quoted 8 lines On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 adroxy@telusplanet.net wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 adroxy@telusplanet.net wrote: > > > plays forwards and backwards, theres a lock groove in the centre, > > the lp plays normally into the lock groove, then if you put the > > needle anywhere after the lock groove itll actually play backwards > > Some of the old UR and Hardwax 12"s do stuff like that. Probably a pain > in the ass for DJs. <snip>

Can be a pain in the ass in a funny way. I remember quite a few years back during my radio show trying to play tracks on the new Woody McBride at the time (on Drop bass or generator, can't remember). Anyway, I hadn't had a chance to listen to it at home at all, and was throwing it on in the mix (or trying to) for the first time (and hearing it/trying it out for the first time). As I remember now, some of the tracks played forwards and some played backwards. There I was on the show and I kept cueing (or *trying* to cue) the first song on each side and (because the track played backwards, which I didn't realize until I got home) the needle would not bite into the groove, it would fall off the edge of the record. So here I was trying to get it to play, the needle would fall off, trying to get it to play, the needle would fall off... Eventually, I gave up-- worried that the tonearm needed adjusting, but then it worked fine for another record. When I got the record home and realized that it played backwards, I sure felt damn foolish :) It's done so rarely that in the heat of the moment, one doesn't usually say "gee, maybe it's supposed to play backwards", I guess (at least that's my excuse for that fateful night ;) Andrew

(idm) re:backwardsVINYL