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Bryan Bickel said once upon a time:

quoted 4 lines the closing segment really mad me laugh, and think at the same time, the

>the closing segment really mad me laugh, and think at the same time, the >camera was panning across a crowd of kids at the CB concert and the last >person the got to was a young kid with a Rancid T-shirt on with his fist in >the air like he was at a rock concert..

Uh oh, I didn't realize they had a telephoto lens on that camera.

Um, it seems to me that many people working at MTV probably have pretty extensive, even encyclopedic knowledge of many genres of music. It's their job, it's what they do all day long. ------ what a waste of good talent, to use encyclopedic knowledge to decide how many times a day the can show jenny mcCarthy's breasts, how many times the can play scarface videos, and how they can cash in on the next big thing, will the road rules gang get their next clue? or will the real world have another handbag house dj named lars? ... the last thing you will hear on MTV is music. ------- And the people who make AMP probably listen to a couple of thousand electronic music records and cds every year. These guys aren't rock people who are "cashing in on the electronica craze". MTV's top people (who are probably still into Springsteen) hired *other people* to make amp, and the people they hired were people just like us, people who have loved electronic music for many years. The people who are probably into springsteen are the ones who decided to cash in on the next big thing and hire these people to exploit the music, I hardly believe a person like myself who loves electronic music would take a job knowing that a large " Cheese " Corporation who did not care for the music would be behind the whole deal. MTV is too big to Care, They have the power to be something wonderful but the channels they use now are a large cry for help..I wish I could go to work and say, " ya see the special last night about beaumont hannant on MTV last night?" I don't see it happening to quickly.. I'd betcha most of the people on this list would drop everything and come-a-running if they were offered a electronic music related job working at MTV. ... not me.. :) thanks, Bry@n ----------------------------------------------------- Bry@n Bickel bickelbr@student.lansing.cc.mi.us

Bryan Bickel said:

quoted 3 lines but what really got me was......

> but what really got me was...... > What does MTV know about electronic music besides Astralwerks and AMP > compilations?

Um, it seems to me that many people working at MTV probably have pretty extensive, even encyclopedic knowledge of many genres of music. It's their job, it's what they do all day long. And the people who make AMP probably listen to a couple of thousand electronic music records and cds every year. These guys aren't rock people who are "cashing in on the electronica craze". MTV's top people (who are probably still into Springsteen) hired *other people* to make amp, and the people they hired were people just like us, people who have loved electronic music for many years. Just becasue the mass media is stupid doesn't mean that the people who make it are stupid. In fact, they are often very smart, very well-informed, very cool people who like weilding power. Unfortunately, they have bosses who tell them to make sure thay "play radio-freindly stuff" or "don't show the nude videos" and that kind of thing. I'd betcha most of the people on this list would drop everything and come-a-running if they were offered a electronic music related job working at MTV. -CF

quoted 3 lines I'd betcha most of the people on this list would drop everything and

> I'd betcha most of the people on this list would drop everything and > come-a-running if they were offered a electronic music related job working at > MTV.

I get to be one of the first 5 or so people on the planet to see what another world looks like. In 3-D, even. You've *got* to be kidding me ... - Greg (Who has just finished his 15th straight day at work supporting MPF) P.S. OK, so you *did* say "most of the people" ...

On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Christopher Fahey wrote:

quoted 6 lines And the people who make AMP probably listen to a couple of thousand electronic

> And the people who make AMP probably listen to a couple of thousand electronic > music records and cds every year. These guys aren't rock people who are > "cashing in on the electronica craze". MTV's top people (who are probably still > into Springsteen) hired *other people* to make amp, and the people they hired > were people just like us, people who have loved electronic music for many > years.

While we're on the subject of AMP has anyone noticed the large number of artists from the Liquid Sky & Asphodel labels shown (or I may be imagining this)? I think there may be a somewhat of a bias to NYC based musicians, maybe because this is where the show is produced. While I tend to like most of the Asphodel artists Liquid Sky tends to put out more homogenized acts. Either way I may be way off base on all of this considering I tend to watch this show in the wee hours of the morning... Something to ponder or not... Ross ;-)

In message <01BC915B.F2B9B700.chrisfahey@mindspring.com>, Christopher Fahey <chrisfahey@mindspring.com> writes

quoted 16 lines Bryan Bickel said:

>Bryan Bickel said: >> but what really got me was...... >> What does MTV know about electronic music besides Astralwerks and AMP >> compilations? > >Um, it seems to me that many people working at MTV probably have pretty >extensive, even encyclopedic knowledge of many genres of music. It's their job, >it's what they do all day long. > >And the people who make AMP probably listen to a couple of thousand electronic >music records and cds every year. These guys aren't rock people who are >"cashing in on the electronica craze". MTV's top people (who are probably still >into Springsteen) hired *other people* to make amp, and the people they hired >were people just like us, people who have loved electronic music for many >years. >

People....who.....can't....mix :) -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

Yes, I'll bet that *most* people who work at MTV are sellouts, but it doesn't mean that working there=selling out. Think of the power you could weild over young minds, how you could bend the entire record industry and millions of young minds to your every musical whim? This is what many of the MTV folks think, and they are right. I'd love that power, although, again, most of the jobs at MTV are sellout beach-party advertisement placement positions and marketing/PR jobs. Probably less than 5% of their staff has anything to do with the actual production of their shows. -CF On Wednesday, July 16, 1997 2:10 PM, Brett McCormick [SMTP:brett@chicken.org] wrote:

quoted 16 lines Yes, I've noticed that most people on this list are more than willing

> > Yes, I've noticed that most people on this list are more than willing > to sell out; not that this is not a bad thing as most of them seem > more than happy to admit it (i.e. i'm not trying to insult anyone) > > Probably those same people who complain about amp would jump at the > chance to produce it ;) > > On Tue, 15 July 1997, at 20:07:34, Christopher Fahey wrote: > > > I'd betcha most of the people on this list would drop everything and > > come-a-running if they were offered a electronic music related job working > > at > > MTV. > > > > -CF

quoted 14 lines And the people who make AMP probably listen to a couple of thousand electronic

> >And the people who make AMP probably listen to a couple of thousand electronic > >music records and cds every year. These guys aren't rock people who are > >"cashing in on the electronica craze". MTV's top people (who are probably still > >into Springsteen) hired *other people* to make amp, and the people they hired > >were people just like us, people who have loved electronic music for many > >years. > > > > People....who.....can't....mix :) > > -- > Ben Coffer > Hybrid Productions > http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

Hey, I sure can't mix. :) (But I still know MtV's suck. Can't stand AMP no more.) Shane

Day job=Public Accountant You bet your ass I would work at MTV in a heart beat. -d-