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1997-07-09 03:00Sean Cooper (idm) vibert/paradinas release dates
└─ 1997-07-09 18:25Tim Fothergill F. Ciencias Dpto. Biologia Re: (idm) vibert/paradinas release dates
1997-07-09 04:48Gonzi (Fresh) Re: (idm) vibert/paradinas release dates
1997-07-09 20:21Sean Cooper Re: (idm) vibert/paradinas release dates
└─ 1997-07-16 11:07Jeff Davis <pHlow> Re: (idm) vibert/paradinas release dates
1997-07-09 23:12jeff Re: (idm) vibert/paradinas release dates
└─ 1997-07-10 16:28Tim Fothergill F. Ciencias Dpto. Biologia Re: (idm) vibert/paradinas release dates
1997-07-10 17:11jeff Re: (idm) vibert/paradinas release dates
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1997-07-09 03:00Sean Cooper>The Internet Dance Music Resource Pages said that both records street this >week. that si
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quoted 2 lines The Internet Dance Music Resource Pages said that both records street this>The Internet Dance Music Resource Pages said that both records street this >week.
that site lists release dates for the uk. john was asking about domestic (us) dates (although he didn't necessarily make that clear...). also, i heard yesterday that warp is currently the subject of a domestic bidding war between caroline and sire. anybody have any dirt on this? g? sc
1997-07-09 18:25Tim Fothergill F. Ciencias Dpto. Biologia> that site lists release dates for the uk. john was asking about domestic > (us) dates (a
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quoted 2 lines that site lists release dates for the uk. john was asking about domestic> that site lists release dates for the uk. john was asking about domestic > (us) dates (although he didn't necessarily make that clear...).
I really do wish you people from the US would stop refering to your country as domestic. It's just so arrogant. I know it's not ill intentioned but it wouldn't cost much to acknowledge you're not the only country on the planet and that not everything is done with you lot in mind. Sorry if I seem bitchy but this is something that's been niggling me for quite a while.
quoted 3 lines sc> > sc >
Tim PS Just got O Yuki Conjugate's Undercurrents. Not very IDM but some very nice low key rythms here and there. Haven't listened to it fully but enjoyed what Idid here. Those who set out to serve both God and Mammon soon find there is no God.
1997-07-09 04:48Gonzi (Fresh)> also, i heard yesterday that warp is currently the subject of a domestic > bidding war b
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quoted 3 lines also, i heard yesterday that warp is currently the subject of a domestic> also, i heard yesterday that warp is currently the subject of a domestic > bidding war between caroline and sire. anybody have any dirt on this? g? >
from http://www.sme.co.jp/Music/Info/SonyTechno/newsE/9703/warpreph.html
quoted 3 lines "Rob Mitchell: We are starting new offices in New York and London. The> "Rob Mitchell: We are starting new offices in New York and London. The > office in London will start functioning three weeks later." >
I've heard from a couple people that warp are going to be setting up offices here and will start distributing things domestically like the ninjas have. This was a few months ago though. Let's hope they go through Caroline so we can pay $10 for their singles domestically as well :) (hehe...i know, i'm not starting that again) ps, can someone in the UK in their next post use the pound sign (that nifty L thingy)... _____ / ,-,_) /,_) (/ RESH Live & Direct from the G-Spot, Orange County, California, USA http://www1.linkonline.net/fresh/fresh.htm
1997-07-09 20:21Sean Cooper>I really do wish you people from the US would stop refering to your >country as domestic.
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quoted 5 lines I really do wish you people from the US would stop refering to your>I really do wish you people from the US would stop refering to your >country as domestic. It's just so arrogant. I know it's not ill >intentioned but it wouldn't cost much to acknowledge you're not the only >country on the planet and that not everything is done with you lot in >mind.
i would have thought my specific outlining of the distinction between release schedules in the us and uk would have doubled as an acknowledgement of this sort. if not and you prefer such an acknowledgement to be sematic rather than substantive, i certainly apologize (or should i, as a gesture of goodwill, say instead "apologise")...;) seriously though, i used the term "domestic" as someone in the us speaking to someone i also knew to be in the us referring to the country we both live in. if i were referring to someone i knew to be somewhere else in the world or whose geographical location were unknown or otherwise ambiguous i would have worded it differently...yeah, i realize it was posted to the list and that the list itself is international, but i didn't think anyone would mind. obidm: we've been kicking a question around on the electro list for the past few days which maybe one of you rephlex worshippers can answer. the catalog number for the bonus 12-inch in bochum welt's "desktop robotics" is the same as it would be if bw's "feelings on a screen" were a 2x12-inch and it was the second twelve (iow, it carries the "feelings" cat. # followed by "ep2" and is etched with side letter "c" and "d" instead of "a" and "b"). i went to fresh's rephlex site but my specific question remains unanswered: was the bonus twelve originally going to be paired with "feelings on a screen" and at the last moment paired instead with "robotics"? and if so, why? sc onnow: seaweed : four (sub pop)
1997-07-16 11:07Jeff Davis <pHlow>On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:21:13 -0800, scooper@best.com (Sean Cooper) said: > >obidm: we've be
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On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:21:13 -0800, scooper@best.com (Sean Cooper) said:
quoted 12 lines obidm: we've been kicking a question around on the electro list for the> >obidm: we've been kicking a question around on the electro list for the >past few days which maybe one of you rephlex worshippers can answer. the >catalog number for the bonus 12-inch in bochum welt's "desktop robotics" is >the same as it would be if bw's "feelings on a screen" were a 2x12-inch and >it was the second twelve (iow, it carries the "feelings" cat. # followed by >"ep2" and is etched with side letter "c" and "d" instead of "a" and "b"). i >went to fresh's rephlex site but my specific question remains unanswered: >was the bonus twelve originally going to be paired with "feelings on a >screen" and at the last moment paired instead with "robotics"? and if so, >why? >
sean - i thought i answered this on e-breaks, but maybe my answer wasn't clear or the message didn't go through. anyway the facts: Yes, one bonus track was written during that period, the pacman track is a bit older and the first one of the 2tracks side is terribly old. - track D2 was written in the same time frame as the FOAS tracks the pacman track (C1) is about 6 months older - track D2 (my fave, and a wikked elektro flourish dare-ere human league style jammer it is) is quite a bit older, from around the timeframe of les dances d' etes on kromode. - desktop robotics , as a release, and a concept , was conceived a month or so after FOAS was already well in the works - there were several pressing fuckups with these releases, don't read too much into the runout groove etchings. - the bonus twelve was not originally going to be paired with FOAS or anything like that. it's just a bunch of tracks from two generally different time periods spread over two releases. buy FOAS and the DR vinyl and you've got 'em all. enjoy em!!!! why ask why? peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeece, p.s. (don't worry , i asked the same thing up front) np: X102 rings of saturn peeeeeeeeeeeeeeece, Jeff Davis <pHlow> ____--~~~~~~vvvv~~~~ oooo812.831.7846 jjdavis@xnet.com____---- ( ( ( vvvv ~~~~~~ooooooooooooo ___----( ( \ \ \ \ \ vvv ooooooooooooooooooo ____---- ( \ \ \ \ \ \ \ http://www.xnet.com/~jjdavis/
1997-07-09 23:12jeffTim Fothergill F. Ciencias Dpto. Biologia wrote: > > that site lists release dates for the
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Tim Fothergill F. Ciencias Dpto. Biologia wrote:
quoted 28 lines that site lists release dates for the uk. john was asking about> > that site lists release dates for the uk. john was asking about > domestic > > (us) dates (although he didn't necessarily make that clear...). > > I really do wish you people from the US would stop refering to your > country as domestic. It's just so arrogant. I know it's not ill > intentioned but it wouldn't cost much to acknowledge you're not the > only > country on the planet and that not everything is done with you lot in > mind. > > Sorry if I seem bitchy but this is something that's been niggling me > for > quite a while. > > > > > sc > > > > Tim > > PS Just got O Yuki Conjugate's Undercurrents. Not very IDM but some > very > nice low key rythms here and there. Haven't listened to it fully but > enjoyed what Idid here. > > Those who set out to serve both God and Mammon > soon find there is no God.
The issue arose because apparently the person who posted a set of release dates comitted the same mistake as the person who innocently used the term "domestic". I see no one quick to put him on the firing line - as well they shouldn't. It looks as though you could see what the American meant, could you not? Is it equally clear what the other person specified as to WHERE the record would be released? No. Lighten up...what's the big deal?
1997-07-10 16:28Tim Fothergill F. Ciencias Dpto. BiologiaMy intention here wasn't to start a who's better or more important than who fight. I just
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My intention here wasn't to start a who's better or more important than who fight. I just thought we could consider each other as equals (ie there isn't one country that's domestic and all the rest are foreigners). I wasn't pointing a finger at anyone in particular, this just happened to be an example that reminded me (I may be a bit testy because of the throat infection someone at work just gave me). I was trying to illustrate a general point instead of what a particular person said. I realise the list is based in the US, but the majority of the music discussed here is from the UK thus meaning that the US is not the first point of release. It's not a big deal, I've been on the list now for several years now and managed perfectly well. If you want to call them domestic releases instead of US (fewer key strokes involved, for the lazy umong you:) releases that's up to you and I can't really force you. Anyway it was a tiny, wee complaint that didn't even deserve the bandwidth used up by this message. The most important thing is that we discuss music and if we all understand each other then what does it matter. Globally yours Tim Those who set out to serve both God and Mammon soon find there is no God. obidm: not much in the way of domestic Chilean releases to discuss;) On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, jeff wrote:
quoted 11 lines The issue arose because apparently the person who posted a set of> > The issue arose because apparently the person who posted a set of > release dates comitted the same mistake as the person who innocently > used the term "domestic". I see no one quick to put him on the firing > line - as well they shouldn't. It looks as though you could see what the > American meant, could you not? Is it equally clear what the other person > specified as to WHERE the record would be released? No. Lighten > up...what's the big deal? > > >
1997-07-10 17:11jeffTim Fothergill F. Ciencias Dpto. Biologia wrote: > My intention here wasn't to start a who
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Tim Fothergill F. Ciencias Dpto. Biologia wrote:
quoted 141 lines My intention here wasn't to start a who's better or more important> My intention here wasn't to start a who's better or more important > than > who fight. I just thought we could consider each other as equals (ie > there isn't one country that's domestic and all the rest are > foreigners). > I wasn't pointing a finger at anyone in particular, this just happened > to > be an example that reminded me (I may be a bit testy because of the > throat infection someone at work just gave me). I was trying to > illustrate > a general point instead of what a particular person said. > > I realise the list is based in the US, but the majority of the music > discussed here is from the UK thus meaning that the US is not the > first > point of release. > > It's not a big deal, I've been on the list now for several years now > and > managed perfectly well. If you want to call them domestic releases > instead > of US (fewer key strokes involved, for the lazy umong you:) releases > that's up to you and I can't really force you. > > Anyway it was a tiny, wee complaint that didn't even deserve the > bandwidth > used up by this message. The most important thing is that we discuss > music > and if we all understand each other then what does it matter. > > Globally yours > > Tim > > Those who set out to serve both God and Mammon > soon find there is no God. > > obidm: not much in the way of domestic Chilean releases to discuss;) > > On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, jeff wrote: > > > > The issue arose because apparently the person who posted a set > of > > release dates comitted the same mistake as the person who innocently > > > used the term "domestic". I see no one quick to put him on the > firing > > line - as well they shouldn't. It looks as though you could see what > the > > American meant, could you not? Is it equally clear what the other > person > > specified as to WHERE the record would be released? No. Lighten > > up...what's the big deal? > > > > > >im Fothergill F. Ciencias Dpto. Biologia wrote: > >> My intention here wasn't to start a who's better or more important >> than >> who fight. I just thought we could consider each other as equals (ie >> >> there isn't one country that's domestic and all the rest are >> foreigners). >> I wasn't pointing a finger at anyone in particular, this just >> happened to >> be an example that reminded me (I may be a bit testy because of the >> throat infection someone at work just gave me). I was trying to >> illustrate >> a general point instead of what a particular person said. >> >> I realise the list is based in the US, but the majority of the music >> >> discussed here is from the UK thus meaning that the US is not the >> first >> point of release. >> >> It's not a big deal, I've been on the list now for several years now >> and >> managed perfectly well. If you want to call them domestic releases >> instead >> of US (fewer key strokes involved, for the lazy umong you:) releases >> >> that's up to you and I can't really force you. >> >> Anyway it was a tiny, wee complaint that didn't even deserve the >> bandwidth >> used up by this message. The most important thing is that we discuss >> music >> and if we all understand each other then what does it matter. >> >> Globally yours >> >> Tim >> >> Those who set out to serve both God and Mammon >> soon find there is no God. >> >> obidm: not much in the way of domestic Chilean releases to discuss;) >> >> On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, jeff wrote: >> > >> > The issue arose because apparently the person who posted a >> set of >> > release dates comitted the same mistake as the person who >> innocently >> > used the term "domestic". I see no one quick to put him on the >> firing >> > line - as well they shouldn't. It looks as though you could see >> what the >> > American meant, could you not? Is it equally clear what the other >> person >> > specified as to WHERE the record would be released? No. Lighten >> > up...what's the big deal? >> > >> > >> > > > Agreed and well said. My own particular sensitivity to the issue > stems from my fiancees experience teaching English in Japan with > people from all over the world. It seems that many of them are > overzealously keen to bash Americans for any/everything going. I > simply grow weary of watching her ( she is very sweet and sensitive) > bear the brunt of such nonsense as every decision someone in > government (past, present, future...no matter) has made to not being > able to discern exactly what vowel a NZ native is enunciating when > trying to repeat her name ("Deebby"?). Didn't mean to take it out on > you, but it seems like we start out with 3 strikes against us > sometimes - and that some people are bound and determined to confirm > their own preconceived notions no matter the character of the > INDIVIDUAL in question. > > > 'Nuff > Said, > > > jeff > p.s > I see no mention of "who's better" anywhere... > did I miss something? >