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1997-01-17 02:52Peter Bense (idm) Re: Please read, very important to all.
├─ 1997-01-17 04:13ryan|b|shaw Re: (idm) Re: Please read, very important to all.
└─ 1997-01-17 19:55C. Desmarias (idm) MTV
1997-01-17 17:40Chris Wren Re: (idm) Re: Please read, very important to all.
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1997-01-17 02:52Peter Bense> Last night, I heard something very disturbing. A old "wigger" friend of mine > called me
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Thu, 16 Jan 1997 21:52:14 -0500 (EST)
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quoted 5 lines Last night, I heard something very disturbing. A old "wigger" friend of mine> Last night, I heard something very disturbing. A old "wigger" friend of mine > called me freaking out about how she loves Prodigy, and she's thinking about > getting things pierced and she says she is going to go to a rave with a bunch > of her little friends and get "fucked up". I was very upset after she said > all that and asked her, where in the world did you get those Ideas , and she
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quoted 3 lines and let it be. This scene was not meant to be publicized and it has been.> and let it be. This scene was not meant to be publicized and it has been. > Almost as if our barriers have been broken. Is there anything we can do to > prevent the scene that unintelligent telvision is creating?
Mindy [and everyone else who is reading this] [I've sent it to the "intelligent dance music" list, btw], Just tonight I was sitting in my room and wondering if it really would be possible to boycott something as sick and commercial as MTV. Just think of all those hours of mindless programming: "The 'real' World", "Singled Out", "Buzzkill"... and that other show where people call up and ask questions about sex and stuff (on the air!) I forget the name of it but I am sure you get what I mean by now. MTV has gone too far with its mindless shite programming and from what I gather on the various mailing lists that I subscribe to -- I am not the only one who feels this way. Emptyvee used to be a pioneer. I remember back in the day watching Thriller and seeing those little clips of the rocket blasting off with the MTV logo. Anyone remember these days? When MTV was about MUSIC and not hype and this mindless shit programming? I dunno... I guess what I am looking for is a consensus. Maybe start some kind of boycott .... anyone else share my views? -peter
1997-01-17 04:13ryan|b|shawOn Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Peter Bense wrote: [offensive whining snipped] o}Just tonight I was s
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On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Peter Bense wrote: [offensive whining snipped] o}Just tonight I was sitting in my room and wondering if it really would be o}possible to boycott something as sick and commercial as MTV... [blah blah blah] o}I dunno... I guess what I am looking for is a consensus. Maybe start o}some kind of boycott .... anyone else share my views? i find your elitist mentality offensive in the extreme. i am no fan of artists bowing to commercial pressure--but that does not seem to be your primary concern. instead, you seem worried that the popularization of your "cool" lifestyle will make it not so cool, and you will be forced to find somewhere else to scoff from. if you were really dedicated to any kind of independent thinking you would stop worrying about the poor unwashed who watch mtv. if you are an intelligent and creative person you will always have a space of your own (an "underground" or call it what you will) to enjoy. but perhaps you fear mtv because it is showing you that you aren't so special after all... r|b|s
1997-01-17 19:55C. DesmariasOn Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Peter Bense wrote: > Just tonight I was sitting in my room and wonder
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Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:55:41 -0800 (PST)
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On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Peter Bense wrote:
quoted 10 lines Just tonight I was sitting in my room and wondering if it really would be> Just tonight I was sitting in my room and wondering if it really would be > possible to boycott something as sick and commercial as MTV. Just think > of all those hours of mindless programming: "The 'real' World", "Singled > Out", "Buzzkill"... and that other show where people call up and ask > questions about sex and stuff (on the air!) I forget the name of it but > I am sure you get what I mean by now. > > MTV has gone too far with its mindless shite programming and from what I > gather on the various mailing lists that I subscribe to -- I am not the > only one who feels this way.
See, I can't form an opinion on this because I don't watch TV. In the '80's I was a trainspotting music video fanatic, watching up to 8 hours a day of Muchmusic [Canada's far superior MTV]. Then about 4 years ago I realized it was time to start doing something productive with my life and completely stopped watching television altogether. Since then I've felt m u c h b e t t e r. I've never seen the Real World, Buzzkill, etc and therefore useless tidbits of info like the theme song melody and the hosts' names aren't cluttering up my head. I recently heard some study results stating that in the last 10 years the average person has gained 15-20 extra hours of free time per week. This corresponds to the *increase* in the weekly amount of television watched per person. Says something about our culture. I guess my point is, if you think MTV sucks, then TURN IT OFF. Permanently. Don't tolerate mediocre programming. Cid. ____________________________________ Cindy Desmarais ---- http://weber.u.washington.edu/~cid ---- cid@u.washington.edu ____________________________________
1997-01-17 17:40Chris Wren> and let it be. This scene was not meant to be publicized and it has been. > Almost as if
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quoted 3 lines and let it be. This scene was not meant to be publicized and it has been.> and let it be. This scene was not meant to be publicized and it has been. > Almost as if our barriers have been broken. Is there anything we can do to > prevent the scene that unintelligent telvision is creating?
In the post by Peter Bence it deoesn't say who originaly sent this in, but it has to be the most misinformed, elitist bollox I've read in a long time. From what I can remember of the rave scene the whole point was to get as many people involved as possible.