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dr. butcher m.d.
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Fri, 4 Jan 2008 03:03:16 -0500 (EST)
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RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno
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http://www.discogs.com/release/522344 maybe too glitch & synths oriented compared to what you're looking for, but PLENTY of lo-fi, grittiness & record crackle type action going on. -drbmd -- On Fri, January 4, 2008 12:10 am, mantrakid wrote: --> But im not at all talking about production technology. It doesn't matter to --> me if the synth sound is coming out of a moog, mpc, reason, fruity loops or --> cool edit, a synth sound is a synth sound. --> --> I'm talking about sampling in the tradition of hip hop as i've said a few --> times now. So taking a clip of an old 70's funk song and making techno out --> of it. I can honestly say i have no consciously heard any music or artists --> doing that, so that's why im asking. --> --> I know techno is close to house/disco house/etc so i want to express that --> looping a 70's disco track with some 909 on top and some chick moaning & --> singing overtop it all is not what im talking about... --> --> I mean gritty dirty DJ Muggs, DJ Format, Mark B, Old Beastie Boys, etc. --> --> Here's an example *kinda* what im talking about but even this is a bit too --> glitchy & crisp. Im looking for more 'low fi' type shit. --> --> http://www.zshare.net/audio/6127257c3d16a2/ --> --> Don't mean to be a fucker but im getting frustrated cuz it seems like im --> either not expressing myself clearly or else im not being understood --> properly. In either situation, i apologize. :D --> --> Isnt this fun? --> --> .M --> --> -----Original Message----- --> From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] --> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:59 PM --> To: mantrakid --> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno --> --> those aesthetics would include just using a computer 'at this stage in --> the game', i.e. 2007, so what's the difference between a soft synth --> and a soft sampler? --> --> On Jan 3, 2008 11:44 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: -->> Exactly why im asking if anyone does it for aesthetics at this stage in --> the -->> game. -->> -->> -->> -----Original Message----- -->> From: Ed Hoc [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] -->> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:32 PM -->> To: mantrakid -->> Cc: idm@hyperreal.org -->> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno -->> -->> i'm just curious to know how many of the producers you mentioned only -->> avoided using synths because they couldn't afford one; i.e. my point -->> is that it seems more likely that 'not using a common tool', at that -->> stage of the game, wasn't due to aesthetics. -->> -->> On Jan 3, 2008 6:06 PM, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: -->> > Yeah i know i was a bit unclear in my explanation of what I'm looking -->> for... -->> > Basically I'm not interested in synthy or electronic sounding music... -->> there -->> > are an abundant of awesome techno artists (Landstrumm, Daft Punk, LCD -->> > Soundsystem, Mike Ink, Headroom, etc) that I absolutely love, but Im -->> > wondering if there is any music or artists specializing in "sampled --> music" -->> > techno.... -->> > -->> > Like you know how Cypress hill beats are very loopy and essentially --> repeat -->> > the same 4 bar sample ripped out of an old jazz song or whatever... and -->> you -->> > hear the grittiness of the record crackle, the simplicity of the --> repeated -->> > loops... i want that same lofi grittiness but in techno format.... --> pretty -->> > much a hip hop beat with a different drum sequencing and faster --> tempo.... -->> > -->> > Apologies for my ignorance, but yeah ive been out of the loop. ;) -->> > -->> > M -->> > -->> > -->> > -----Original Message----- -->> > From: folk devil [mailto:folkdevil_23@hotmail.com] -->> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:01 PM -->> > To: idm@hyperreal.org -->> > Subject: RE: [idm] Sample Based Techno -->> > -->> > -->> > what about soft synths...? -->> > -->> > Element Abuse -->> > Smear -->> > Maggot Farmer -->> > DJ Producer -->> > Hellfish ..............................................> Date: Wed, 2 --> Jan -->> > 2008 23:23:31 -0800> From: r3tic@yahoo.com> To: mantrakid@neferiu.com; -->> > idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] Sample Based Techno> > Isolee?> --> The -->> > Field?> > mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: Can anyone click me -->> into -->> > some *good* sample based techno? Im talking 100%> sample & drum machine -->> > based or i guess more forgivingly - NO SYNTHS ALLOWED.> Does a thing -->> exist? -->> > Im looking for shit along the lines of 90's hip hop> production ala DJ -->> Muggs -->> > & Beastie Boys but more electronic-ey than hip hop,> with that gritty -->> sample -->> > based 'mood' to it. Almost like Akufen if his decay> knob broke off in --> the -->> > (Zero Decay) position....> > > > What do you think?> > > > Mantra> > -->> > _________________________________________________________________ -->> > i'm is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making --> a -->> > difference. -->> > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect -->> > -->> > -->> > -->> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- -->> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org -->> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org -->> > -->> > -->> -->> -->> -->> -- -->> Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address -->> that cannot accept incoming e-mail. 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