179,854Messages
9,130Senders
30Years
342mboxes

← archive index

RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.

9 messages · 8 participants · spans 1 day · search this subject
2003-02-05 21:07Brandon Smith [idm] OT: Invisibility.
└─ 2003-02-05 21:23Maximilien Lincourt RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
└─ 2003-02-05 21:20Marco Carbone RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
├─ 2003-02-05 21:36EggyToast RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
└─ 2003-02-05 23:38Dan Haskovec RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
2003-02-05 23:43seeklektek Re: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
2003-02-06 14:33iteration zero RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
└─ 2003-02-06 15:33Matt Jarsky RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
2003-02-06 17:12iteration zero RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
expand allcollapse allclick any summary to toggle that message
2003-02-05 21:07Brandon SmithJapanese Scientist invents invisibility cloak. http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_747591
From:
Brandon Smith
To:
Date:
Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:07:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
[idm] OT: Invisibility.
permalink · <20030205210731.88639.qmail@web12506.mail.yahoo.com>
Japanese Scientist invents invisibility cloak. http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_747591.html?menu=news.latestheadlines Brandon __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-02-05 21:23Maximilien LincourtI don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ... [ from the article
From:
Maximilien Lincourt
To:
Date:
Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:23:01 -0500
Subject:
RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
Reply to:
[idm] OT: Invisibility.
permalink · <GJEHKBBAJJPOLONFCEKAGEKACEAA.maximilien.lincourt@mayahtt.com>
I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ... [ from the article ... The photograph was taken through a viewfinder that uses a combination of moving images taken behind the wearer to give a transparent effect. ...] Max. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-02-05 21:20Marco Carbone> I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ... Well, do you thin
From:
Marco Carbone
To:
Date:
Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:20:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject:
RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
Reply to:
RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
permalink · <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302051617001.20181-100000@pidgin.eecs.harvard.edu>
quoted 1 line I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ...> I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ...
Well, do you think an invisibility cloak is anything but an optical trick? I imagine the first "real" invisibility cloak will somehow project all occluded images appropriately rather than make the person transparent (which would probably be lethal). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-02-05 21:36EggyToast>> I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ... > >Well, do you
From:
EggyToast
To:
Date:
Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:36:12 -0500
Subject:
RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
Reply to:
RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
permalink · <a05010407ba67342db535@[128.220.50.51]>
quoted 6 lines I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ...>> I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ... > >Well, do you think an invisibility cloak is anything but an optical >trick? I imagine the first "real" invisibility cloak will somehow project >all occluded images appropriately rather than make the person transparent >(which would probably be lethal).
Yeah, they should really just call the things transparency cloaks. but saying "I wish I were transparent" sounds... wrong. derek -- eggytoast.com -------------- commerce soon: eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-02-05 23:38Dan HaskovecBut the trick here is mostly (if not totally) in the viewfinder. It's similar to the adver
From:
Dan Haskovec
To:
Marco Carbone
Cc:
Date:
Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:38:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
Reply to:
RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
permalink · <Pine.LNX.4.33.0302051537120.6640-100000@charm>
But the trick here is mostly (if not totally) in the viewfinder. It's similar to the advertisements that are inserted onto objects in real time during sporting events and such. On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Marco Carbone wrote:
quoted 6 lines I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ...> > I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ... > > Well, do you think an invisibility cloak is anything but an optical > trick? I imagine the first "real" invisibility cloak will somehow project > all occluded images appropriately rather than make the person transparent > (which would probably be lethal).
--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-02-05 23:43seeklektekFrom: "Dan Haskovec" > But the trick here is mostly (if not totally) in the viewfinder. It
From:
seeklektek
To:
Date:
Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:43:46 -0800
Subject:
Re: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
permalink · <024801c2cd70$6d188570$875be40c@obelisk>
From: "Dan Haskovec"
quoted 3 lines But the trick here is mostly (if not totally) in the viewfinder. It's> But the trick here is mostly (if not totally) in the viewfinder. It's > similar to the advertisements that are inserted onto objects in real time > during sporting events and such.
Finally: a thread that is on-topic. =seek= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-02-06 14:33iteration zero>>> I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ... >> >>Well, do y
From:
iteration zero
To:
,
Date:
Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:33:35 -0500
Subject:
RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
permalink · <F258heWx4dBvx8U48tk0002d7e4@hotmail.com>
quoted 9 lines I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ...>>> I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than anything else ... >> >>Well, do you think an invisibility cloak is anything but an optical >>trick? I imagine the first "real" invisibility cloak will somehow project >>all occluded images appropriately rather than make the person transparent >>(which would probably be lethal). > >Yeah, they should really just call the things transparency cloaks. but >saying "I wish I were transparent" sounds... wrong.
Assuming it's nonlethal, making yourself transparent would pose another interesting difficulty - effective blindness for the duration of transparency. If all visible light is either passed directly through you(transparency) or bent around you (a la "Predator"), no light would be reflected or absorbed by the necessary structures in your eye to facilitate sight. If you can see in the ultraviolet or infrared ends of the spectrum, that's a different story. i0 _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-02-06 15:33Matt Jarskythen there are all the hazards of your own behaviour, based on years of experience as a vi
From:
Matt Jarsky
To:
IDM
Date:
Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:33:57 -0400
Subject:
RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
Reply to:
RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
permalink · <EEEIJJGFKOKMKKHCBBPFOEMBCHAA.studio@cheapo.cc>
then there are all the hazards of your own behaviour, based on years of experience as a visible entity...there was a X-Files episode where a fellow, recently become invisible, was killed jaywalking. Even walking downa crowded street would next to impossible: since no one would make any adjustment to their path to stay out of your way, you'd be dancing around like Michael Jackson just to keep from being detected. Matt
quoted 41 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: iteration zero [mailto:iterationzero@hotmail.com] > Sent: February 6, 2003 10:34 AM > To: eggy@eggytoast.com; idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility. > > > >>> I don't get it, looks more like a optical trick than > anything else ... > >> > >>Well, do you think an invisibility cloak is anything but an optical > >>trick? I imagine the first "real" invisibility cloak will > somehow project > >>all occluded images appropriately rather than make the person > transparent > >>(which would probably be lethal). > > > >Yeah, they should really just call the things transparency cloaks. but > >saying "I wish I were transparent" sounds... wrong. > > Assuming it's nonlethal, making yourself transparent would pose another > interesting difficulty - effective blindness for the duration of > transparency. If all visible light is either passed directly through > you(transparency) or bent around you (a la "Predator"), no light would be > reflected or absorbed by the necessary structures in your eye to > facilitate > sight. If you can see in the ultraviolet or infrared ends of the > spectrum, > that's a different story. > > i0 > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-02-06 17:12iteration zero>From: Matt Jarsky <studio@cheapo.cc> >then there are all the hazards of your own behaviou
From:
iteration zero
To:
,
Date:
Thu, 06 Feb 2003 12:12:05 -0500
Subject:
RE: [idm] OT: Invisibility.
permalink · <F47EHaz8kI063RA5C2d0002e1b3@hotmail.com>
quoted 9 lines From: Matt Jarsky <studio@cheapo.cc>>From: Matt Jarsky <studio@cheapo.cc> >then there are all the hazards of your own behaviour, based on years of >experience as a visible entity...there was a X-Files episode where a >fellow, >recently become invisible, was killed jaywalking. Even walking downa >crowded >street would next to impossible: since no one would make any adjustment to >their path to stay out of your way, you'd be dancing around like Michael >Jackson just to keep from being detected.
Too right! Invisible doesn't mean undetectable. You'd still have an odor, leave footprints and fingerprints, make noise, etc. Plus there's the inherent danger in dancing around like Michael Jackson. Probably end up throwing your back out or hyperextending a knee or something. i0 _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org