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out of my tiny (200 cd) collection i couldn't live without... not all pure idm but still relevent to the list- Woob - 1194 Brian Eno - On land Autechre - Amber Boards of Canada - Hi Scores EP Depth Charge - 9 deadly venoms Artificial Intelligence compilation The Orb - Ultraworld Psyche/BFC - Elements 89-90 Global Communication - (it doesn't matter, they're all good) FFWD>> Also, I have a friend who really wants to get into jungle/d'n'b but doesn't know much about what is good outside of the Good Looking stuff so I would really appreciate it if the good people of the idm list could send me some recommendations. And also, what Guy Called Gerald stuff should I track down if i loved "black secret technology"?

quoted 4 lines Also, I have a friend who really wants to get into jungle/d'n'b but doesn't

>Also, I have a friend who really wants to get into jungle/d'n'b but doesn't >know much about what is good outside of the Good Looking stuff so I would >really appreciate it if the good people of the idm list could send me some >recommendations.

Here are my fave 6: Both Photek Albums: "Modus Operandi" "Form & Function" IMO, the best jungle producer i've ran across, but it's weirder stuff, especially MO. WE(tm) "Square Root of Negative One": just got this, so take this recommendation with a grain of salt. They've gotten rid of much of the "illbience" for a more regular jungle sound, without sounding like regular jungle. Lamb "Lamb": Really interesting, off-beat and unique jungle production with great female vocals over it Kemistry & Storm "DJ Kicks": IMO, a really good mix of hard jungle for dancing. Ben Neill "Goldbug": Nice production, and he does a good job of filling the middles with his miles-like mutantrumpet.

quoted 2 lines And also, what Guy Called Gerald stuff should I track down

>And also, what Guy Called Gerald stuff should I track down >if i loved "black secret technology"?

His remix of D*Note's "Criminal Justice": Sounds a lot like tracks from BST, but with Ragga-style vocals over it about the Criminal Justice Bill. Speaking of, does anyone know of any web page with a description of the criminal justice bill and its history? I know it was an anti-rave law in England, and that Ae's AntiEP has statements against it on the sticker, and the above D*Note reference. Or if someone could just send me some info, i'd appreciate. Thanks. _________________________________ Adam Roesch / roesch@augsburg.edu University of Idaho / Moscow / ID / USA Visit my Fila Brazillia/Pork Recordings fan site: http://dogbert.augsburg.edu/~roesch/pork/ "Because success needs killing" TRICKY

On 19 Jun 99, Moonlight wrote re: (idm) Jungle:

quoted 1 line Ben Neill "Goldbug":

> Ben Neill "Goldbug":

Saw this name in a post and it brings me to asking : what's the deal on Ben Neill? I bought Green Machine unheard on a sale recently and listened through it about twice before relegating it to the bottom of the pile - sort of amby saxy noodling (oops, that word again). I * np : Senking

quoted 7 lines Ben Neill "Goldbug":

> > Ben Neill "Goldbug": > > Saw this name in a post and it brings me to asking : what's the > deal on Ben Neill? I bought Green Machine unheard on a sale > recently and listened through it about twice before relegating it to > the bottom of the pile - sort of amby saxy noodling (oops, that word > again).

Yeah, Ben Neill is another one of those dudes who takes the similar underpinnings of jazz and electronic music in directions it was never meant to go. It's like hey, this track is kind of cool- and then he comes in with his damn trumpet again. ARRGH. I never liked the trumpet anyway- It's BUGLE 2.0- just as cloying and nasal as the original regimental wake up call, now with three buttons for greater melodic range! Tom

Tom Millar <tmillar@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>:

quoted 4 lines Yeah, Ben Neill is another one of those dudes who takes the similar

> > Yeah, Ben Neill is another one of those dudes who takes the similar > underpinnings of jazz and electronic music in directions it was never > meant to go.

What directions are jazz and electronic music "meant to go"? Seems like Miles Davis might be working in a similar vein if he were still with us. 3

On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Zenon M. Feszczak wrote:

quoted 10 lines Tom Millar <tmillar@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>:

> Tom Millar <tmillar@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>: > > > > > Yeah, Ben Neill is another one of those dudes who takes the similar > > underpinnings of jazz and electronic music in directions it was never > > meant to go. > > What directions are jazz and electronic music "meant to go"? > Seems like Miles Davis might be working in a similar vein if he were still > with us.

according to a huge amount of people on this list, it was never meant to go beyond the sound of "amber". good thing MAS is keeping it real!!!! :) chris.

Tom Millar wrote:

quoted 9 lines Yeah, Ben Neill is another one of those dudes who takes the similar

> > Yeah, Ben Neill is another one of those dudes who takes the similar > underpinnings of jazz and electronic music in directions it was never > meant to go. It's like hey, this track is kind of cool- and then he > comes in with his damn trumpet again. ARRGH. I never liked the trumpet > anyway- It's BUGLE 2.0- just as cloying and nasal as the original > regimental wake up call, now with three buttons for greater melodic range! > > Tom

hmm. not sure that someone who "never liked the trumpet" is in much of a position to say what direction jazz was "meant to go." after all, if louis armstrong hadn't put glorified bugle to mouth 3/4 of a century ago, jazz quite possibly would have never gone anywhere. not to mention the non-cloying, un-nasal music miles davis, dizzy gillespie, lee morgan, don cherry, jon hassell, wadada leo smith, kenny wheeler, dave douglas and a host of others have created on the instrument since then. and oh yeah -- i think ben neill is swell. jeff

quoted 9 lines hmm. not sure that someone who "never liked the trumpet" is in much of a

> hmm. not sure that someone who "never liked the trumpet" is in much of a > position to say what direction jazz was "meant to go." after all, if > louis armstrong hadn't put glorified bugle to mouth 3/4 of a century > ago, jazz quite possibly would have never gone anywhere. not to mention > the non-cloying, un-nasal music miles davis, dizzy gillespie, lee > morgan, don cherry, jon hassell, wadada leo smith, kenny wheeler, dave > douglas and a host of others have created on the instrument since then. > and oh yeah -- i think ben neill is swell. > jeff

That's awesome dude, I guess since all those guys are officially geniuses the trumpet must be a great instrument. I'll change my taste in sonics right away. BTW, I never said anything about the places jazz was meant to go, that's for jazz musicians to decide for themselves. But quite frankly just because you can improvise blues on top of something (which you can with just about all techno) doesn't make it a good idea- kind of like sticking your head in the toilet because it fits. That's all I'm saying- I hate noodles with my techno. Tom

i saw ben play a couple of yrs back in SF, with Jonah Sharp and DJ Spooky... all i have to say is can you actually play something other then those three same notes in a song?! Ben Neill? umm.... i didnt think he had reached to the level of the idm ring? spam