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1997-10-05 18:21Franz EnmarkPuckered, At 13:47 1997-10-05 -0400, PUCKERED1@aol.com wrote: >GOOD LUCK! hope you used a

From:: Franz Enmark <frankie@gargamel.com>
To:: <PUCKERED1@aol.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>, <jyrkip@freenet.hut.fi>, <robert.merlak@ri.tel.hr>, <mfr@dial.pipex.com>
Date:: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 20:21:02 +0200
Subject:: (idm) Re: mfr?

Puckered, At 13:47 1997-10-05 -0400, PUCKERED1@aol.com wrote:

quoted 8 lines GOOD LUCK! hope you used a credit card so you can threaten with calling your

>GOOD LUCK! hope you used a credit card so you can threaten with calling your >bank to get a full refund, like I did! I was credited for the records I >didn't get and for the extra shipping it cost me for the extra weight of the >package... (since it was packed with 4 records I didn't order) >unfortunately, I haven't received replacements for the HORRIBLE quality Musik >Aus Strom records, and was told I'd have to send them back first before I >would get replacements... but do I want to take that chance of something else >happening???? N O ! ! !

I feel like taking MFR into defense here... I've ordered with him 3 times, and although the last order took a while to get here (I was recieving emails during the whole process) everything worked out just grand. I can't comment on your specific case, and if this is what really happened, I must say I'm quite surprised, Stuart is a stand-up guy and the Stuart I've been dealing with wouldn't act like this... Just to show how nice my experience was... I (and a couple of friends) ordered this:

quoted 35 lines various - freestyle files cd @4.99

> various - freestyle files cd @4.99 > sie - ruban d alpha cd @4.99 > aphex twin - richard d james cd @4.99 > Squarepusher - hard normal daddy 2x12" @8.99 > Kumo - Armed Response 12" @4.50 > squarepusher - crot EP (rumble rtj001) 12" @5.99 (x2) > v/a - mask ep 2 12" @8.9 > Dimitri From Paris - Dirty Larry, 12" £6.99 > Dead Calm - State of Grace, 12" £1.99 > Reload - EV006 WL, 12" £4.5 > Sluta Leta - Fanclub, 12" £6.5 > AFX - ABIV, 12" £4.5 > Aphex Twin - Girl/Boy, 12" £1.9 > Aphex Twin - Xylem Tube, 12" £6.5 > Red Snapper - Prince Blimey, cd £6.99 > Autechre - Tri Repitae, cd £9.99 > Gescom - 1, 12" £4.5 > Gescom - 2, 12" £4.5 > Gescom - Keynell, 12" £4.5 > Jean Jaques Perrey - E.V.A., 12" £4.99 > Global Goon - Global Goon, lp £5.99 > Tricky - Christiansands, 12" £1.9 > Peshay - Predator, 12" £4.5 > A Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology, 2x12" £4.99 > v/a - Pussy Galore, 2x12" £10.99 > Nobukazu Takemura - Child's View Remix, lp £9.99 > v/a - New Electronica, 2x12" £6.99 > Seefeel - Ch-Vox, lp £4.99 > Doctor Rockit - the Music of Sound, 2x12" £6.99 > freeform, same 12" £4.50 > V/Vm sampler 12" 12" £5.99 > X-Asp "Terra Firma" cd cd £6.99 > daniel ibbitson - souped up (clear) 12" £2.99 > dr rockitt - d is for doctor (clear clr416)12" £2.99 > clatterbox - 2 x 10" (clear) 2x10" £3.99

AND then we got this for FREE. These are not shitty things people...

quoted 16 lines boymerang 12"

> boymerang 12" > new coldcut 2 x 12" , > new autechre promo 12" , > ill 10", > kreidler white 12", > override 12" (n-tone), > magoo 12" (lo recordings), > cinema 12", > autechre radiomix cd, > gerd cd, > speedy j ni go snix12", > metamatics 12", > metamatics 2 12", > metamatics cd, > new dj krush 12", > heights of abraham 12",

I don't want you to expect to recieve anything just because you order with MFR, but this quite shows that if something is late, or something which he claims was available wasn't, he makes it up to you. He sent the records whenever he got em in, no extra postage charges. And the prices aren't exactly bad... I've yet to find any cheaper ones.

quoted 1 line and when you FINALLY DO get your package, you'll have horrible quality

>and when you FINALLY DO get your package, you'll have horrible quality

vinyl and >scratched CD's, which will be blammed on the Czech Republic pressing plant, V/VM, and >whatever other label your "beat" records happen to be on, and if you receive the >WRONG title, it will be blammed on "not being into catalog numbers" or "I didn't pack >the order", and that they were "gifts"... then you will be told that you won't have >to deal with their service anymore.111 then you will be told that they are scaling >down the mail-order to make way for the new label.... The only thing I've experieced similar to this was that my Freeform 12" came without a sleeve... But HOWEVER, they don't really grow on trees so WTF. Otherwise anything of this hasn't happened to me. The only thing that bothers me really is that MFR can be quite slow on emails... But then again, that's nothing really unique... I bet that there's a lot of people with similar experiences of MFR/4thWorld out there... Fe. - sale/wants: http://gargamel.com/frankie ''' = ) - =-= = '''''''''' - - plodulism!: http://gargamel.com/plod -->--> -/ - - - ] '''''''' - - dot records: http://gargamel.com/dot '''''' = -.. =-= = '''''''''' -

1997-10-05 15:14s.f.w.d.> I feel like taking MFR into defense here... I've ordered with him 3 times, > and althoug

From:: s.f.w.d. <brap@sonic.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>, Franz Enmark <frankie@gargamel.com>
Date:: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 15:14:04 +0000
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: mfr?
Reply to:: (idm) Re: mfr?

quoted 6 lines I feel like taking MFR into defense here... I've ordered with him 3 times,

> I feel like taking MFR into defense here... I've ordered with him 3 times, > and although the last order took a while to get here (I was recieving > emails during the whole process) everything worked out just grand. I can't > comment on your specific case, and if this is what really happened, I must > say I'm quite surprised, Stuart is a stand-up guy and the Stuart I've been > dealing with wouldn't act like this...

I feel I have to mention my good experiences here also (though I've heard Puckered1's experience and can understand frustration) I've dealt with Stu a few times and nothing but good. Good prices, fairly timely arrival (never much longer than anything else coming from out of the states) and nothing but emails between... I personally have $80-90 worth of stuff out there coming (the mAs catalog and the new freeform) and I sent *cash*... but I honestly believe that Stu wouldn't try and dick any of us around and if something unintentionally did get screwed, believe he'd do what he could to make it right... but maybe there's alot going on that the majority of us have no idea about or something... anyways, hate to see a guy whose hooked me up with good stuffs get shot down, thats my $.02... guess I'll be pissed too if I didn't get my stuff or it arrived fucked... anyways... Chris brap@sonic.net http://www.sonic.net/~brap/ Black Dog, Dot, Genesis P-Orridge, Whitezone-L, etc. C.Gosselin, PO Box 8264, Santa Rosa, CA 95407

1997-10-06 05:28BrokenI have to second the defense of Stuart & mfr (the mail order formely known as 4 World). I'

From:: Broken <hmshih@vger.rutgers.edu>
To:: Franz Enmark <frankie@gargamel.com>
Cc:: <PUCKERED1@aol.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>, <jyrkip@freenet.hut.fi>, <robert.merlak@ri.tel.hr>, <mfr@dial.pipex.com>
Date:: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:28:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: mfr?
Reply to:: (idm) Re: mfr?

I have to second the defense of Stuart & mfr (the mail order formely known as 4 World). I've ordered from him a bunch of times and haven't really had a problem. It usually takes a month or so before I get the stuff in but I chalk that up to him being in Scotland and me in New Jersey. And if it's any consolation my Musik Aus Strom records do have layer of crap on 'em but it's not as if they can't be wiped off. Plus they have cool new cardboard sleeves. Howie (Satisfied MFR customer)

1997-10-05 18:42PUCKERED1@aol.comIn a message dated 10/5/97 6:28:36 PM, frankie@gargamel.com wrote: >I feel like taking MFR

From:: <PUCKERED1@aol.com>
To:: <frankie@gargamel.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>, <jyrkip@freenet.hut.fi>, <robert.merlak@ri.tel.hr>, <mfr@dial.pipex.com>
Date:: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 14:42:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: mfr?

In a message dated 10/5/97 6:28:36 PM, frankie@gargamel.com wrote:

quoted 11 lines I feel like taking MFR into defense here... I've ordered with him 3 times,

>I feel like taking MFR into defense here... I've ordered with him 3 times, > >and although the last order took a while to get here (I was recieving > >emails during the whole process) everything worked out just grand. I can't > >comment on your specific case, and if this is what really happened, I must > >say I'm quite surprised, Stuart is a stand-up guy and the Stuart I've been > >dealing with wouldn't act like this...

It's just the luck of the draw! I sell stuff... I'm slow at times, I've had a few people unhappy with my mailing or product... shit happenes... the postal system happens... the domestic release comes out after I sell the import happens... the crushed case happens... but the quality I received just seemed so BLATANT! (which I was half compensated for) my only point is that I wish you GOOD LUCK with your dealings, because it doesn't seem like he cares one way or the other, as long as he can make up for it in a way that really doesn't equal the initial situation! All I wanted were brand-new records and CD's. Is that too much to ask? I'm not complaining about the time length it took, because I was wanting to WAIT for the Musik Aus Strom releases... but it's the multiple excuses for the quality of what I received. that's all. I'm sure there are always going to be 1,000 happy customers and 5 unhappy... I'm just telling my situation. GOOD LUCK!

1997-10-06 06:21PUCKERED1@aol.comIn a message dated 10/6/97 5:48:18 AM, you wrote: >And if it's any consolation my Musik Au

From:: <PUCKERED1@aol.com>
To:: <hmshih@vger.rutgers.edu>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 02:21:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: Re: (idm) Re: mfr?

In a message dated 10/6/97 5:48:18 AM, you wrote:

quoted 3 lines And if it's any consolation my Musik Aus Strom records do have layer of

>And if it's any consolation my Musik Aus Strom records do have layer of >crap on 'em but it's not as if they can't be wiped off. Plus they have >cool new cardboard sleeves.

cardboard dust doesn't carve thin scratches in a concentrated area! plus, you can't speak for anything since you haven't done an order with him AFTER his partners took off. circumstances change the way people do things!!!

(idm) Re: mfr?