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1996-09-14 22:29Gil (idm) Elecktroids - What did you think of them?
└─ 1996-09-15 07:29James B Gill Re: (idm) Elecktroids - What did you think of them?
1996-09-15 13:55Hiroshi MURATA Re: (idm) Elecktroids - What did you think of them?
└─ 1996-09-15 18:49Annalena Olausson Re: (idm) Elecktroids - What did you think of them?
└─ 1996-09-15 16:36Che Re: (idm) Elecktroids - What did you think of them?
├─ 1996-09-16 21:17Eric Frans Re: (idm) Elecktroids - What did you think of them?
│ └─ 1996-09-17 03:23James B Gill (idm) fsolisdn gave birth to "the bomb"
│ └─ 1996-09-17 04:14Zenon M. Feszczak Re: (idm) fsolisdn gave birth to "the bomb"
└─ 1996-09-16 21:37C. Desmarias (idm) IDioM-related
1996-09-15 21:15Brock Suter Re: (idm) Elecktroids - What did you think of them?
1996-09-15 23:04Jan Hanford (idm) Elecktroids - What did you think of them?
1996-09-16 01:34Dave Walker Re: (idm) Elecktroids - What did you think of them?
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1996-09-14 22:29GilI heard reports after the Elecktroids CD came out on Warp that it was good, but it's a bit
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I heard reports after the Elecktroids CD came out on Warp that it was good, but it's a bit too expensive as an import to just take a chance on. If any IDMers could email their comments to me (or post them here if they seem to be of potentially general interest) I would highly appreciate it. Second (slight) topic: I just found the Fawn EP, something I hadn't expected to find in the US. It's pretty good, could even be great, but was almost too minimal. The rhythm processing sounds state-of-the-art, but more tunes might have enhanced it. I can't gripe too much. It's better stuff than I can create myself just now. Take care. Mr. Gil gil@l0pht.com No authority is self-justified. Resist. Visit The Compendium of Allowable Knowledge http://www.l0pht.com/~gil/ FREE MUMIA ABU-JAMAL. END THE RACIST DEATH PENALTY.
1996-09-15 07:29James B Gilldefinitely buy this album!!!!!! no other comments necessary.
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definitely buy this album!!!!!! no other comments necessary.
1996-09-15 13:55Hiroshi MURATA> I heard reports after the Elecktroids CD came out on Warp that it was good, A nice inher
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> I heard reports after the Elecktroids CD came out on Warp that it was good, A nice inheritance of Kraftwerk. This sure is a must, and it'll soon be a classic. I'm not sure what they meant to say about Japanese electronics, BTW. ;> ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) <hiroshi@pobox.com>
1996-09-15 18:49Annalena OlaussonI'm a big fan of autechre, cylob, paradinas amongst others, and I think Electroids sucked.
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I'm a big fan of autechre, cylob, paradinas amongst others, and I think Electroids sucked. I mean.. "future tone"? whatta hell is this? 27 years after the debut album from kraftwerk! really.. I mean, If I want to listen to kraftwerk, I'll listen to kraftwerk, and not any pale plagiarism. Usually warp release quite good stuff, but this release really wasn't. Instead listen to die mensch machine (the man machine), Trans Europa Express (trance europe express) or Computerwelt (computerworld). Now that rocks! just my opinion.. Franz Enmark.
1996-09-15 16:36CheOn Sun, 15 Sep 1996, Annalena Olausson wrote: > Instead listen to die mensch machine (the
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On Sun, 15 Sep 1996, Annalena Olausson wrote:
quoted 3 lines Instead listen to die mensch machine (the man machine), Trans Europa> Instead listen to die mensch machine (the man machine), Trans Europa > Express (trance europe express) or Computerwelt (computerworld). > Now that rocks!
Just to clarify your usage of American idioms, when someone says "that rocks", it means that it sounded like something 20-25 years old, and that it sucked. Of course, what they _meant_ to say was that they like stuff that sucks lots and lots, but that's beside the point. Kraftwerk definitely does _not_ rock. That's why their tracks that are 20-25 years old don't _sound_ 20-25 years old. Maybe what you meant to say was that Elektroids "rocks". ;-) Che
1996-09-16 21:17Eric FransOn Sun, 15 Sep 1996, Che wrote: } On Sun, 15 Sep 1996, Annalena Olausson wrote: } } > Inst
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On Sun, 15 Sep 1996, Che wrote: } On Sun, 15 Sep 1996, Annalena Olausson wrote: } } > Instead listen to die mensch machine (the man machine), Trans Europa } > Express (trance europe express) or Computerwelt (computerworld). } > Now that rocks! } } Just to clarify your usage of American idioms, when someone says "that } rocks", it means that it sounded like something 20-25 years old, and } that it sucked. Of course, what they _meant_ to say was that they like } stuff that sucks lots and lots, but that's beside the point. } } Kraftwerk definitely does _not_ rock. That's why their tracks that are } 20-25 years old don't _sound_ 20-25 years old. } } Maybe what you meant to say was that Elektroids "rocks". ;-) Hmm... Well, I guess everyone has different meanings tied to slang words. When I see "it rocks" I equate that with a compliment. I personally don't think "it sucks" when I hear "it rocks". I agree that the term is a little tired nowadays and today we Americans have latched onto "it's the bomb!" to describe great music and good quality whatnots. However, if someone wrote "it sucks rocks" then I would equate that with "it sucks".8) I personally don't think Electroids "rock" or are "the bomb". I think their stuff is good, but not quite to "the bomb" standard. They create some nice electro lines, but the music isn't dynamic enough. Not quite up to par with Kraftwerk, IMHO. _________________E_r_i_c___F_r_a_n_s_________________ [mail]---------------->franse@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu [web]--->http://www.azstarnet.com/~slyons/exoticblend (site contains an extensive page devoted to electronic music - also inside are pages devoted to dark humor, non-traditional art, and bizarre links)
1996-09-17 03:23James B Gill> little tired nowadays and today we Americans have latched onto "it's the > bomb!" to des
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quoted 2 lines little tired nowadays and today we Americans have latched onto "it's the> little tired nowadays and today we Americans have latched onto "it's the > bomb!" to describe great music and good quality whatnots.
Eric, don't forget where the birth of "the bomb" took place! Was it streetsounds(shite store, imho). refer to wls for further underground details
1996-09-17 04:14Zenon M. Feszczak>> little tired nowadays and today we Americans have latched onto "it's the >> bomb!" to d
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quoted 6 lines little tired nowadays and today we Americans have latched onto "it's the>> little tired nowadays and today we Americans have latched onto "it's the >> bomb!" to describe great music and good quality whatnots. > >Eric, don't forget where the birth of "the bomb" took place! Was it >streetsounds(shite store, imho). refer to wls for further underground >details
P-Funk was the bomb and dropped the bomb on all. ZipDrive
1996-09-16 21:37C. DesmariasOn Sun, 15 Sep 1996, Che wrote: > > Instead listen to die mensch machine (the man machine)
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On Sun, 15 Sep 1996, Che wrote:
quoted 8 lines Instead listen to die mensch machine (the man machine), Trans Europa> > Instead listen to die mensch machine (the man machine), Trans Europa > > Express (trance europe express) or Computerwelt (computerworld). > > Now that rocks! > > Just to clarify your usage of American idioms, when someone says "that > rocks", it means that it sounded like something 20-25 years old, and > that it sucked. Of course, what they _meant_ to say was that they like > stuff that sucks lots and lots, but that's beside the point.
Uh, maybe I'm just an oddball but I interpret the statement "Now that rocks!" to mean that the aforementioned Kraftwerk albums "kick major ass", "blow my bazooka", "toot my horn", "stimulate my aural pleasure centers", etc. Then again, I'm Canadian, so maybe I should qualify this response as a clarification of Canadian idioms ;). Cid.
1996-09-15 21:15Brock SuterAnnalena Olausson (Franz Enmark) wrote: > >... I mean, If I want to listen to kraftwerk, I
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Annalena Olausson (Franz Enmark) wrote:
quoted 3 lines ... I mean, If I want to listen to kraftwerk, I'll listen to> >... I mean, If I want to listen to kraftwerk, I'll listen to > kraftwerk, and not any pale plagiarism...
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quoted 5 lines Instead listen to die mensch machine (the man machine), Trans Europa> Instead listen to die mensch machine (the man machine), Trans Europa > Express (trance europe express) or Computerwelt (computerworld). > Now that rocks! > just my opinion.. >
As a counter point to this post, I must say I love all these Kraftwerk Albums (and all the others) but I see nothing wrong with fresh new ideas and music, even on the same vein. I love all "Elecktroids" releases. Yet another release very similar is the Kraftwelt singles. It's 13 different mixes of one song, making it a budget priced single ($7.99), but all the mixes are so dissimilar that it's really an LP. Contributors to this project include Uberzone, Len Del Rio, Torben Schmidt, Claus Larsen and 8 others. All tracks are electro in nature, Kraftwerk in spirit. Another must have! I really don't see either of these two projects as "pale plagiarism", I see them as tributes to the brilliance of Kraftwerk. Their still as fresh today as back in the day. have a nice sun...day, brock np: plug: D&B 4 papa ps: What about Kraftwerk "the mixes". I had a friend who's first introduction to Kraftwerk was this album...then later upon hearing all the original tracks, he thought the originals were cheesy...Technology!
1996-09-15 23:04Jan HanfordI really love this cd. It's sort of like Kraftwerk but it's not identical. Although Kraftw
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I really love this cd. It's sort of like Kraftwerk but it's not identical. Although Kraftwerk had a better vocoder (they're hard to come by these days). I'd say it's more of a "fun" record, not serious and complicated like Autechre. Which makes for a nice change, actually. I also highly recommend Warps' Blueprint by Wildplanet. Another fun cd. Regards, Jan Jan Hanford - jan@shelby.com Shelby Group Ltd. - Internet Software Developers C o r p o r a t e W e b P a g e - http://www.shelby.com/ P e r s o n a l W e b P a g e - http://www.tile.net/jan/
1996-09-16 01:34Dave WalkerGil <gil@l0pht.com> asked: :I heard reports after the Elecktroids CD came out on Warp that
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Gil <gil@l0pht.com> asked: :I heard reports after the Elecktroids CD came out on Warp that it was :good, but it's a bit too expensive as an import to just take a chance on. The Dopplereffekt mini-LP's are a better buy (hint hint). -d.w.