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Not to be a pain in the ass, but according to Mick Sleeper of Upsetter.net "... the six tracks credited to Scratch are actually King Tubby dubs of Bunny Lee productions with new and silly titles eg) "Lee Perry Upsetting Dub", "Lee Perry Special Dub". To make matters worse, it's likely that all of the tracks are mistitled. Buy it for the classic King Tubby shots; Scratch isn't here." Which is always the case, like the Abraham records guy in Canada who rips off Blood & Fire all the time... -i --- somrux <bishop@somrux.com> wrote:

quoted 25 lines Anybody care to share more of their favorite classic dub suggestions?<

> >Anybody care to share more of their favorite classic dub suggestions?< > > Yeah, here's one... > > It's called "Dub Chill Out", and it features INCREDIBLE stuff by King Tubby, > King Jammy, Lee Perry, Sly & Robbie, Scientist and Augustus Pablo. There is > a track by King Tubby on this release called "Fittest of the Fittest Dub", > and it is a SWEET track. It's a *must-have* for any serious dubhead. > > http://digilander.iol.it/zapatelli/records/dub_chill_out.html is where you > can view more info. about this release. If you wanna get a good listen-to > of the 'fittest of the fittest dub' track, then download it here off of my > server: > > http://www.somrux.com/filez/Fittest.of.the.fittest.dub-king_tubby.mp3 > > I promise you won't regret it..... > -somrux. > http://www.somrux.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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the history of dub/reggae is full of mis-credited releases. I've got multiple versions of some records where the US release will have tracks credited to completely different people than the UK release. It was a culture based on re-use and trading of rhythms so things were bound to get confusing. It's about as confusing as collecting Sun Ra records. I would highly recommend reading "People Funny Boy", the biography of Lee Perry (written by David Katz). Not only does it provide a in-depth history of Perry, but also provides info on everyone he came across (ie. pretty much anyone who was anyone in Jamaican music). Oh and my classic dub suggestion... Scientist : Rids The World Of The Evil Curse Of The Vampires classic heady stuff, and I would rate the cover as one of the best ever. Scientist on that swamp boat with his big ass sound system chasing all the evil creatures. Not on the dub tip, but relevant, the new Blood and Fire collection "Darker Than Blue" is killer. American soul tracks as recorded by Jamaican artist. The version of Bill Withers "Ain't No Sunshine When She's Gone" is incredible. Jeff on 9/7/01 6:39 PM, i at interdit@yahoo.com wrote:

quoted 50 lines Not to be a pain in the ass, but according to Mick Sleeper of Upsetter.net

> Not to be a pain in the ass, but according to Mick Sleeper of Upsetter.net > > "... the six tracks credited to Scratch are actually King Tubby dubs of Bunny > Lee productions with new and silly titles eg) "Lee Perry Upsetting Dub", "Lee > Perry Special Dub". To make matters worse, it's likely that all of the tracks > are mistitled. Buy it for the classic King Tubby shots; Scratch isn't here." > > Which is always the case, like the Abraham records guy in Canada who rips off > Blood & Fire all the time... > > -i > > > --- somrux <bishop@somrux.com> wrote: >>> Anybody care to share more of their favorite classic dub suggestions?< >> >> Yeah, here's one... >> >> It's called "Dub Chill Out", and it features INCREDIBLE stuff by King Tubby, >> King Jammy, Lee Perry, Sly & Robbie, Scientist and Augustus Pablo. There is >> a track by King Tubby on this release called "Fittest of the Fittest Dub", >> and it is a SWEET track. It's a *must-have* for any serious dubhead. >> >> http://digilander.iol.it/zapatelli/records/dub_chill_out.html is where you >> can view more info. about this release. If you wanna get a good listen-to >> of the 'fittest of the fittest dub' track, then download it here off of my >> server: >> >> http://www.somrux.com/filez/Fittest.of.the.fittest.dub-king_tubby.mp3 >> >> I promise you won't regret it..... >> -somrux. >> http://www.somrux.com >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Very true, its still nice to know what you're getting on a dub comp if possible ;) I'd have to agree on the Scientist choice, but I prefer Scientist encounters Pacman really heavyweight scientist sound. I'd also reccommend early studio one compilations - Dub Specialist & even some older Treasure Isle in Dub titles (if you can get em) The early rocksteady sound dubbed raw. Of Course you can't go wrong with some Sly & Robbie w/ King Tubby... -i --- Jeff/Ninja Tune <jeff@ninjatune.net> wrote:

quoted 93 lines the history of dub/reggae is full of mis-credited releases. I've got

> the history of dub/reggae is full of mis-credited releases. I've got > multiple versions of some records where the US release will have tracks > credited to completely different people than the UK release. It was a > culture based on re-use and trading of rhythms so things were bound to get > confusing. It's about as confusing as collecting Sun Ra records. > > I would highly recommend reading "People Funny Boy", the biography of Lee > Perry (written by David Katz). Not only does it provide a in-depth history > of Perry, but also provides info on everyone he came across (ie. pretty much > anyone who was anyone in Jamaican music). > > Oh and my classic dub suggestion... > > Scientist : Rids The World Of The Evil Curse Of The Vampires > > classic heady stuff, and I would rate the cover as one of the best ever. > Scientist on that swamp boat with his big ass sound system chasing all the > evil creatures. > > Not on the dub tip, but relevant, the new Blood and Fire collection "Darker > Than Blue" is killer. American soul tracks as recorded by Jamaican artist. > The version of Bill Withers "Ain't No Sunshine When She's Gone" is > incredible. > > Jeff > > > > on 9/7/01 6:39 PM, i at interdit@yahoo.com wrote: > > > Not to be a pain in the ass, but according to Mick Sleeper of Upsetter.net > > > > "... the six tracks credited to Scratch are actually King Tubby dubs of > Bunny > > Lee productions with new and silly titles eg) "Lee Perry Upsetting Dub", > "Lee > > Perry Special Dub". To make matters worse, it's likely that all of the > tracks > > are mistitled. Buy it for the classic King Tubby shots; Scratch isn't > here." > > > > Which is always the case, like the Abraham records guy in Canada who rips > off > > Blood & Fire all the time... > > > > -i > > > > > > --- somrux <bishop@somrux.com> wrote: > >>> Anybody care to share more of their favorite classic dub suggestions?< > >> > >> Yeah, here's one... > >> > >> It's called "Dub Chill Out", and it features INCREDIBLE stuff by King > Tubby, > >> King Jammy, Lee Perry, Sly & Robbie, Scientist and Augustus Pablo. There > is > >> a track by King Tubby on this release called "Fittest of the Fittest Dub", > >> and it is a SWEET track. It's a *must-have* for any serious dubhead. > >> > >> http://digilander.iol.it/zapatelli/records/dub_chill_out.html is where you > >> can view more info. about this release. If you wanna get a good listen-to > >> of the 'fittest of the fittest dub' track, then download it here off of my > >> server: > >> > >> http://www.somrux.com/filez/Fittest.of.the.fittest.dub-king_tubby.mp3 > >> > >> I promise you won't regret it..... > >> -somrux. > >> http://www.somrux.com > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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quoted 7 lines I'd have to agree on the Scientist choice, but I

>I'd have to agree on the Scientist choice, but I >prefer Scientist encounters Pacman really heavyweight >scientist sound. I'd also reccommend early studio one >compilations - Dub Specialist & even some older Treasure >Isle in Dub titles (if you can get em) The early >rocksteady sound dubbed raw. Of Course you can't go >wrong with some Sly & Robbie w/ King Tubby...

What Treasure Island Dub titles do you recommend? I did a quick search and found that there are a multitude of titles & comps on this label by artists unfamiliar to me - Alton Ellis, John Holt, Paragons, Phyllis Dillon, U Roy, Tommy McCook, Techniques, Skatalites, Ken Parker, Justin Hinds, Melodians, Laurel Aitken, Don Drummond, and the Conquerors to name a few. Always on the lookout for good dub! -- -->-Lance---- PO Box 450715 Westlake, OH 44145 United States --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

for some more heavy dub check out rockers almighty dub -features some top notch players like sly and robbie and augustis pablo---- anything dubbed by the agrovators scientist-rids the world of the evil curse of the vampire..etc. for some new rootsy dub on the king tubby vibe check out anything by twilight circus dub soundsystem. --- "Lance @ Inaudible" <lance@inaudible.com> wrote:

quoted 28 lines I'd have to agree on the Scientist choice, but I

> >I'd have to agree on the Scientist choice, but I > >prefer Scientist encounters Pacman really > heavyweight > >scientist sound. I'd also reccommend early studio > one > >compilations - Dub Specialist & even some older > Treasure > >Isle in Dub titles (if you can get em) The early > >rocksteady sound dubbed raw. Of Course you can't go > >wrong with some Sly & Robbie w/ King Tubby... > > What Treasure Island Dub titles do you recommend? > I did a quick search and found that there are a > multitude of titles & comps on this label by artists > unfamiliar to me - Alton Ellis, John Holt, Paragons, > Phyllis Dillon, U Roy, Tommy McCook, Techniques, > Skatalites, Ken Parker, Justin Hinds, Melodians, > Laurel Aitken, Don Drummond, and the Conquerors to > name a few. Always on the lookout for good dub! > > -- > > -->-Lance---- > PO Box 450715 > Westlake, OH 44145 > United States > >

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I'd have to say the Treaure Isle Dub Vols 1&2, most other Treasure Isle titles deal with the pure rocksteady sound and some early deejay bizness someone else mentioned Twilight Circus, which if you dont already own is essential Most comps on the Dubhead record label from the UK The Bush Chemists - light up your spliff LKJ in Dub (essential!!!) Dub Specialist - 17 shots from studio one (dubs all the classic riddims) Better Dub from Studio One (includes the dub of the reggae cover of James Browns 'get on the good foot' - called Gready G) Anyting involving the Aggrovators (someone else mentioned this) Mad Professor (Secret of the Master Tape) Jah Shaka (any of the ten commandments of dub early numbers are better IMO) Jackie Mittoo - Any of his work (not strictly dub, but worth a listen) Yabby You - Jesus Dread (Awesome amazing 4lp box set) Twinkle Brothers - Dub Massacre Pts 1&2, 3&4 Dub Almighty Chapters series (believe there are currently five in this series) Alpha & Omega - All albums Prince Far I - Cry Tuff (chapter 3 is my favourite) Black Uhuru - Brutal dub nu-dub Burnt Friedman & Nu Dub Players - Just Landed Pole - 1,2 & 3 Rhythmn & Sound Feat TIkiman - showcase Unitone Hi-Fi Cee-Mix Guidance's excellent HIFI DUB SESSIONS -i --- "Lance @ Inaudible" <lance@inaudible.com> wrote:

quoted 20 lines What Treasure Island Dub titles do you recommend?

> What Treasure Island Dub titles do you recommend? > I did a quick search and found that there are a > multitude of titles & comps on this label by artists > unfamiliar to me - Alton Ellis, John Holt, Paragons, > Phyllis Dillon, U Roy, Tommy McCook, Techniques, > Skatalites, Ken Parker, Justin Hinds, Melodians, > Laurel Aitken, Don Drummond, and the Conquerors to > name a few. Always on the lookout for good dub! > > -- > > -->-Lance---- > PO Box 450715 > Westlake, OH 44145 > United States > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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mad professor all volumes dub me crazy!!xspecially volume 4.Any,but early prince fari.prince jamyyyyy --- i <interdit@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 68 lines I'd have to say the Treaure Isle Dub Vols 1&2, most

> I'd have to say the Treaure Isle Dub Vols 1&2, most > other Treasure Isle titles > deal with the pure rocksteady sound and some early > deejay bizness > > someone else mentioned Twilight Circus, which if you > dont already own is > essential > > Most comps on the Dubhead record label from the UK > The Bush Chemists - light up your spliff > LKJ in Dub (essential!!!) > Dub Specialist - 17 shots from studio one (dubs all > the classic riddims) > Better Dub from Studio One (includes the dub of the > reggae cover of James > Browns 'get on the good foot' - called Gready G) > Anyting involving the Aggrovators (someone else > mentioned this) > Mad Professor (Secret of the Master Tape) > Jah Shaka (any of the ten commandments of dub early > numbers are better IMO) > Jackie Mittoo - Any of his work (not strictly dub, > but worth a listen) > Yabby You - Jesus Dread (Awesome amazing 4lp box > set) > Twinkle Brothers - Dub Massacre Pts 1&2, 3&4 > Dub Almighty Chapters series (believe there are > currently five in this series) > Alpha & Omega - All albums > Prince Far I - Cry Tuff (chapter 3 is my favourite) > Black Uhuru - Brutal dub > > > nu-dub > Burnt Friedman & Nu Dub Players - Just Landed > Pole - 1,2 & 3 > Rhythmn & Sound Feat TIkiman - showcase > Unitone Hi-Fi > Cee-Mix > Guidance's excellent HIFI DUB SESSIONS > > -i > > > > > --- "Lance @ Inaudible" <lance@inaudible.com> wrote: > > What Treasure Island Dub titles do you recommend? > > I did a quick search and found that there are a > > multitude of titles & comps on this label by > artists > > unfamiliar to me - Alton Ellis, John Holt, > Paragons, > > Phyllis Dillon, U Roy, Tommy McCook, Techniques, > > Skatalites, Ken Parker, Justin Hinds, Melodians, > > Laurel Aitken, Don Drummond, and the Conquerors to > > name a few. Always on the lookout for good dub! > > > > -- > > > > -->-Lance---- > > PO Box 450715 > > Westlake, OH 44145 > > United States > > > > >

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Did you check the sleeve notes from the back of Black Archives on Justice League claims that he's possibly of of the upsetters brothers? can't recall it exactly dont have lp to hand.... Life is a Flower is an extraordinary track -i --- zimbo <tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu> wrote:

quoted 22 lines while folks are talking about this, i have to ask:

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I'm reading "Bass Culture: When Reggae was King" by Lloyd Bradley at the moment, which I'm finding pretty entertaining going... quite an exhaustive tome, at least far more so than any other book on jamaican music I've ever read... and that has definitely given me the impression of it being extremely difficult to work out who actually released tracks originally... "Bass Culture" ISBN:0-670-85563-4 "People Funny Boy" ISBN 0-86241-854-2 dhave

quoted 85 lines the history of dub/reggae is full of mis-credited releases. I've got

>the history of dub/reggae is full of mis-credited releases. I've got >multiple versions of some records where the US release will have tracks >credited to completely different people than the UK release. It was a >culture based on re-use and trading of rhythms so things were bound to get >confusing. It's about as confusing as collecting Sun Ra records. > >I would highly recommend reading "People Funny Boy", the biography of Lee >Perry (written by David Katz). Not only does it provide a in-depth history >of Perry, but also provides info on everyone he came across (ie. pretty much >anyone who was anyone in Jamaican music). > >Oh and my classic dub suggestion... > >Scientist : Rids The World Of The Evil Curse Of The Vampires > >classic heady stuff, and I would rate the cover as one of the best ever. >Scientist on that swamp boat with his big ass sound system chasing all the >evil creatures. > >Not on the dub tip, but relevant, the new Blood and Fire collection "Darker >Than Blue" is killer. American soul tracks as recorded by Jamaican artist. >The version of Bill Withers "Ain't No Sunshine When She's Gone" is >incredible. > >Jeff > > > >on 9/7/01 6:39 PM, i at interdit@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Not to be a pain in the ass, but according to Mick Sleeper of Upsetter.net >> >> "... the six tracks credited to Scratch are actually King Tubby dubs of Bunny >> Lee productions with new and silly titles eg) "Lee Perry Upsetting Dub", "Lee >> Perry Special Dub". To make matters worse, it's likely that all of the tracks >> are mistitled. Buy it for the classic King Tubby shots; Scratch isn't here." >> >> Which is always the case, like the Abraham records guy in Canada who rips off >> Blood & Fire all the time... >> >> -i >> >> >> --- somrux <bishop@somrux.com> wrote: >>>> Anybody care to share more of their favorite classic dub suggestions?< >>> >>> Yeah, here's one... >>> >>> It's called "Dub Chill Out", and it features INCREDIBLE stuff by King Tubby, >>> King Jammy, Lee Perry, Sly & Robbie, Scientist and Augustus Pablo. There is >>> a track by King Tubby on this release called "Fittest of the Fittest Dub", >>> and it is a SWEET track. It's a *must-have* for any serious dubhead. >>> >>> http://digilander.iol.it/zapatelli/records/dub_chill_out.html is where you >>> can view more info. about this release. If you wanna get a good listen-to >>> of the 'fittest of the fittest dub' track, then download it here off of my >>> server: >>> >>> http://www.somrux.com/filez/Fittest.of.the.fittest.dub-king_tubby.mp3 >>> >>> I promise you won't regret it..... >>> -somrux. >>> http://www.somrux.com >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger >> http://im.yahoo.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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