also one thing i do with beats sometimes in cubase is take a beat, and then
do the cubase process->plugin on it, bring up dblue glitch and see where in
the glitch 'sequencer' my loop lands, then set it to just crush or just
reverse or just slowdown, etc, and apply that just to that one measure or a
couple of beats in the loop.
Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 136 lines heh in the .mod days ppl would use mod2wav to make patterns from their
> heh in the .mod days ppl would use mod2wav to make patterns from their
> .mod files into wav files, the idea being that since you only had 4 tracks
> if you could write a 4 track beat and mix it down to 1 wav file you could
> free up 3 channels
> </mod-nerd>
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Eric Fairbanks <
> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh man, those stutter-rolls. That's friggin' impressive. They sound so
>> smooth, and the volume envelopes are perfect.
>>
>> Must've taken a hellovalot of time. :P
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This track was made entirely in Sound Forge
>>> http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/SoFarSoSo/02%20Morton%27s%20Shadow.mp3
>>>
>>> This was from this album
>>> http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/01/31/so-far-so-so-retrospective-1995-2005/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Before Acid Pro, I did a whole bunch of tracks in Sound Forge. I'd
>>>> figure out the number of samples in a 4-beat measures, create that much
>>>> silence, and turn on the selection grid in Sound Forge so I could see where
>>>> the beats were, and paste/mix samples in. Once I had some basic patterns
>>>> and sounds, I'd make copies and fuck them up, and string them out and
>>>> paste-mix other loops into the master mix.
>>>>
>>>> I'm really comfortable working directly with waveforms. It's a lot
>>>> easier these days with other tools, but I liked that method better than the
>>>> other options of the time, which were trackers.
>>>>
>>>> Though I did do trackers to generate loops that I'd arrange in Acid.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ah man, Acid Pro. That's exactly what I was picturing. I've heard of
>>>>> musicians who work like that, but it sounds like a nightmare. Might as well
>>>>> compose music in a video editor at that point IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I did it kind of as a dare for myself. I was working in Acid Pro, and
>>>>>> I cut the break into chunks, and then looped a bar or two bars, and
>>>>>> copy/paste bits into the loop until it feels full. Then move on to the
>>>>>> next measure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It wasn't hard, but it made me hate those particular sounds by the
>>>>>> time I was done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:44 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>>>>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kent, that's nuts. I can't imagine working with sampled breaks in an
>>>>>>> audio editor. (well, I suppose I can, but it sounds like a serious
>>>>>>> headache) My recent jam has been writing LUA scripts that
>>>>>>> generate/transform patterns in Renoise that re-arrange cut up breakbeats.
>>>>>>> Editing and manipulating breaks and sequences in a tracker at 180+ BPM
>>>>>>> 8/16LPB is work enough. Cutting up breaks in an audio editor represents a
>>>>>>> level of long-term focus and dedication that I'm unfamiliar with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Totally hypothetical, but if Jenkinson handed me a spec for some
>>>>>>> beatmangling software, I'd happily implement it in return for some spastic
>>>>>>> Squarepusher-brand breakcore. >.>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:24 PM kent williams <
>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure I'd call it piss-weak. Not sure if I like it yet, but
>>>>>>>> I enjoy the melodic content. It sounds like he's using the Eventide effects
>>>>>>>> rack as a synthesizer again -- that buzzy foreground sound, which comes
>>>>>>>> from playing bass through it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Closest contemporary comparison is the PC Music stuff, which is
>>>>>>>> manically shiny in a similar way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can't fault him for trying to do something that sounds
>>>>>>>> different.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As regards the Amen break, I did a track years ago that involved
>>>>>>>> loading the Amen break as a sample, and then cutting and arranging it so
>>>>>>>> every bar was different, across 5 minutes. As you can imagine this amounted
>>>>>>>> to about 8 hours of painstaking zoomed-in editing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ever since doing that, I'm allergic to the Amen. I don't mind if
>>>>>>>> people use it in their tracks, but if I load it a sampler and start messing
>>>>>>>> with it, I start feeling sad and wishing it would go away.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:21 AM CRAIG SIMPSON <
>>>>>>>> craignorms@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all been
>>>>>>>>> sampled from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break. It's a
>>>>>>>>> tragedy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700
>>>>>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Forwarded Message Attachment--
>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700
>>>>>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and
>>>>>>>>> I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> kent williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM
>>>>>>>>> > list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>