heh in the .mod days ppl would use mod2wav to make patterns from their .mod
files into wav files, the idea being that since you only had 4 tracks if
you could write a 4 track beat and mix it down to 1 wav file you could free
up 3 channels
</mod-nerd>
Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Eric Fairbanks <eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com>
wrote:
quoted 121 lines Oh man, those stutter-rolls. That's friggin' impressive. They sound so
> Oh man, those stutter-rolls. That's friggin' impressive. They sound so
> smooth, and the volume envelopes are perfect.
>
> Must've taken a hellovalot of time. :P
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This track was made entirely in Sound Forge
>> http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/SoFarSoSo/02%20Morton%27s%20Shadow.mp3
>>
>> This was from this album
>> http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/01/31/so-far-so-so-retrospective-1995-2005/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Before Acid Pro, I did a whole bunch of tracks in Sound Forge. I'd
>>> figure out the number of samples in a 4-beat measures, create that much
>>> silence, and turn on the selection grid in Sound Forge so I could see where
>>> the beats were, and paste/mix samples in. Once I had some basic patterns
>>> and sounds, I'd make copies and fuck them up, and string them out and
>>> paste-mix other loops into the master mix.
>>>
>>> I'm really comfortable working directly with waveforms. It's a lot
>>> easier these days with other tools, but I liked that method better than the
>>> other options of the time, which were trackers.
>>>
>>> Though I did do trackers to generate loops that I'd arrange in Acid.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ah man, Acid Pro. That's exactly what I was picturing. I've heard of
>>>> musicians who work like that, but it sounds like a nightmare. Might as well
>>>> compose music in a video editor at that point IMO.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I did it kind of as a dare for myself. I was working in Acid Pro, and
>>>>> I cut the break into chunks, and then looped a bar or two bars, and
>>>>> copy/paste bits into the loop until it feels full. Then move on to the
>>>>> next measure.
>>>>>
>>>>> It wasn't hard, but it made me hate those particular sounds by the
>>>>> time I was done.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:44 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>>>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kent, that's nuts. I can't imagine working with sampled breaks in an
>>>>>> audio editor. (well, I suppose I can, but it sounds like a serious
>>>>>> headache) My recent jam has been writing LUA scripts that
>>>>>> generate/transform patterns in Renoise that re-arrange cut up breakbeats.
>>>>>> Editing and manipulating breaks and sequences in a tracker at 180+ BPM
>>>>>> 8/16LPB is work enough. Cutting up breaks in an audio editor represents a
>>>>>> level of long-term focus and dedication that I'm unfamiliar with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Totally hypothetical, but if Jenkinson handed me a spec for some
>>>>>> beatmangling software, I'd happily implement it in return for some spastic
>>>>>> Squarepusher-brand breakcore. >.>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:24 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure I'd call it piss-weak. Not sure if I like it yet, but
>>>>>>> I enjoy the melodic content. It sounds like he's using the Eventide effects
>>>>>>> rack as a synthesizer again -- that buzzy foreground sound, which comes
>>>>>>> from playing bass through it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Closest contemporary comparison is the PC Music stuff, which is
>>>>>>> manically shiny in a similar way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can't fault him for trying to do something that sounds different.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As regards the Amen break, I did a track years ago that involved
>>>>>>> loading the Amen break as a sample, and then cutting and arranging it so
>>>>>>> every bar was different, across 5 minutes. As you can imagine this amounted
>>>>>>> to about 8 hours of painstaking zoomed-in editing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ever since doing that, I'm allergic to the Amen. I don't mind if
>>>>>>> people use it in their tracks, but if I load it a sampler and start messing
>>>>>>> with it, I start feeling sad and wishing it would go away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:21 AM CRAIG SIMPSON <
>>>>>>> craignorms@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all been
>>>>>>>> sampled from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break. It's a
>>>>>>>> tragedy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700
>>>>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --Forwarded Message Attachment--
>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700
>>>>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and
>>>>>>>> I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> kent williams wrote:
>>>>>>>> > I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM
>>>>>>>> > list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>