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From:
Alex Quintana
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William Samuels
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Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:06:44 -0500 (EST)
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Re: (idm) Re: "Intelligent music"
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, William Samuels wrote:
quoted 4 lines what you are talking about it. Especially when you say> what you are talking about it. Especially when you say > stuff like "this is more intelligent dub techno > then...blah blah". It's vague, nondescriptive, and > sounds rather pompous.
I personally have never said one type of music is more intelligent than another, nor ever would. but it does sound rather pompous.
quoted 4 lines I guess some of this could be considered tech-house or> I guess some of this could be considered tech-house or > jazzy house. So what is "chill house" intelligent? And > do you consider it to be "intelligent" because you > like it?
Chill is the adjective put on house music to mean the same if not similar than that Intelligent means when you put it on jungle. I don't consider any of it intelligent in the meaning of the word intelligent, that is.. "smart.." it's just music.
quoted 3 lines Great point there is some jazzy jungle. It makes more> Great point there is some jazzy jungle. It makes more > sense to actually describe it in REAL TERMS instead of > just lumping everything under "intelligent".
I didn't coin the term. Chill house is more often jazzy than ambient like. but either way, whether it's ambient like, or jazz-like, it's good (imho) I also like detroit house, but I wouldn't call it jazzy or ambient like. that's not to mean that jazzy music is more 'intelligent' or better than detroit, it's just not jazzy.. although some might go in that direction (that chill-house is better than detroit :) I've actually never used intelligent to describe jungle or house at all.. I always refer to it as jazzy or ambientish.. ambientish being one of my favorite descriptors that I use, heh :) but I think I know what the ppl who call that stuff intelligent mean by it.
quoted 7 lines Some would consider it too chilled out... that sort of> Some would consider it too chilled out... that sort of > stuff usually sucks the energy out of the > floor...unless mixed real well. Last time I saw LTJ > Bukem, I wasn't sure what to expect but he mixed thru > the tracks pretty fast and did lots of dj tricks to > keep it interesting. WAY BETTER than the mixed Logical > Progression stuff. Is that "intelligent mixing"?
I dunno. :) If you mix stuff, or you've ever tried mixing, you realize that mixing without having trainwrecks or any kind of problems is intelligent mixing :) As for LTJ Bukem being too chilled out, try listening to Orchestral Jam.. It hits pretty hard on the beats.. one of those ambientish things with loud, deep, penetrating beats. tho true a lot of the Good Looking stuff is quite light. When I've heard stuff like that played dancing was not always the purpose. -- Hillie "System administrators are demigods who know how to run computers in ways that mere mortals can only imagine." -- Paul E. Hoffman Atonal Audio Research Labs [www.|ftp.|irc.]atonal.org[:80|:21|:6667] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org