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2000-01-10 09:06Bell Ex-Onek, any body seen Magnolia yet? whats the deal. am i missing something or is it just one of

From:: Bell Ex-One <stepintime@juno.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:06:15 -0800
Subject:: (idm) magnolia

k, any body seen Magnolia yet? whats the deal. am i missing something or is it just one of those films. kinda reminds me of Brazil in a way. comments...explanations...? over// ?-???-? The Jega Discog. http://www.geocities.com/bellexone/jega.html stepintime@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-01-10 14:00wellsdunno about the idm content here, but it's a brilliant film.. paul thomas anderson (direct

From:: wells <s0ewoliv@vcu.edu>
To:: Bell Ex-One <stepintime@juno.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:00:16 -0500
Subject:: RE: (idm) magnolia
Reply to:: (idm) magnolia

dunno about the idm content here, but it's a brilliant film.. paul thomas anderson (director) has done 2 solid films previouis to this one. hard eight & boogie nights. while not being as good as boogie nights, magnolia is still very grand. - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu " The ball is round. The game lasts ninety 90 minutes. This much is fact. Everything else is just theory." -----Original Message----- From: Bell Ex-One [mailto:stepintime@juno.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 4:06 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: (idm) magnolia k, any body seen Magnolia yet? whats the deal. am i missing something or is it just one of those films. kinda reminds me of Brazil in a way. comments...explanations...? over// »-®øÐ-» The Jega Discog. http://www.geocities.com/bellexone/jega.html stepintime@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-01-10 19:07Bell Ex-OneOn Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:00:16 -0500 "wells" <s0ewoliv@vcu.edu> writes: >dunno about the idm

From:: Bell Ex-One <stepintime@juno.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>, <s0ewoliv@vcu.edu>
Date:: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:07:22 -0800
Subject:: Re: (idm) magnolia

On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:00:16 -0500 "wells" <s0ewoliv@vcu.edu> writes:

quoted 1 line dunno about the idm content here,

>dunno about the idm content here,

don't care.

quoted 2 lines but it's a brilliant film.. paul thomas

>but it's a brilliant film.. paul thomas >anderson (director) has done 2 solid films previouis to this one. hard

eight

quoted 3 lines & boogie nights.

>& boogie nights. > >while not being as good as boogie nights, magnolia is still very grand.

though it was no Fight Club the themes and ideas were pretty sweet, but was there supposed to be an explanations for the frogs. no one in the movie even asked why or how. however, the film having somewhat of and unrealistic base, i guess its all possible. still if theres no explaining, theres got to be some kind of reasoning............i think. over// ?-???-? The Jega Discog. http://www.geocities.com/bellexone/jega.html stepintime@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-01-10 19:34Greg ClowOn Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Bell Ex-One wrote: > though it was no Fight Club the themes and ideas

From:: Greg Clow <stained@the-wire.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:34:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) magnolia
Reply to:: Re: (idm) magnolia

On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Bell Ex-One wrote:

quoted 5 lines though it was no Fight Club the themes and ideas were pretty sweet, but

> though it was no Fight Club the themes and ideas were pretty sweet, but > was > there supposed to be an explanations for the frogs. no one in the movie > even > asked why or how.

[SPOILER...] If you watch the film closely, you'll see the numbers 8 and 2 appearing all over the place, and the specific bible reference "Exodus 8:2" appears on an ad in a bus shelter (and perhaps elsewhere - I didn't catch on to the 8 & 2 thing until halfway through the film). The bible quote being referenced is: "But if you refuse to release them, then I am going to plague all your borders with frogs" - God telling Moses to tell the Pharaoh to release the Jews or he would rain frogs upon them. Of course, why Anderson chose to include this plot point in the film isn't really explained. But taking the "subliminal" 8s and 2s into account, it makes a bit more sense. Greg obIDM - the new Pan American album is killer! Dubby, Pole-esque minimalism with splashes of jazz and drone-rock. Guest appearance by members of Low on one track. It's out at the end of the month on Kranky - highly recommended! -- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - http://www.stainedproductions.com feedback monitor - electronic & experimental radio/reviews/interviews http://www.stainedproductions.com/feedback/ 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-01-10 20:42wellsOn Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Bell Ex-One wrote: > though it was no Fight Club the themes and ideas

From:: wells <s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu>
To:: Bell Ex-One <stepintime@juno.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:42:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) magnolia
Reply to:: Re: (idm) magnolia

On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Bell Ex-One wrote:

quoted 10 lines though it was no Fight Club the themes and ideas were pretty sweet, but

> though it was no Fight Club the themes and ideas were pretty sweet, but > was > there supposed to be an explanations for the frogs. no one in the movie > even > asked why or how. however, the film having somewhat of and unrealistic > base, > i guess its all possible. still if theres no explaining, theres got to be > some kind > of reasoning............i think. >

exodus 8:2.. numerous references to it throughout the film (storefronts, street signs, etc). rather subtle, but there.. exodus 8 deals with moses and the rain of frogs; all of that good silly stuff in the bible. oops. but, wonderful film again. sort of a flowing, "operatic" experience with great performances from everyone, especially john c. reilly (who played the police officer) and tom cruise (wow). i even liked julianne moore a good deal; most reactions to her are of love or hate, but i feel she is a very solid actor (boogie nights, myth of fingerprints...). everyone ought to see it (again, even!). and, uhm, i like autechre (had to put some idm content in there). - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu " The ball is round. The game lasts ninety minutes. This much is fact. Everything else is just theory. " --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-01-10 19:32Andrew Dukere: the frogs in magnolia: saw the film last night. my girlfriend noticed the references t

From:: Andrew Duke <cognition@ns.sympatico.ca>
To:: Bell Ex-One <stepintime@juno.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>, <s0ewoliv@vcu.edu>
Date:: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:32:41 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) magnolia

re: the frogs in magnolia: saw the film last night. my girlfriend noticed the references to exodus 8:2, so we went to a bookstore after the movie and read that passage of the the bible. talks about the different things that will happen, the plague of gnats, of this and that. exodus 8:2 refers to the plague of frogs. you'd have to read the bible verse for more info.andrew duke Bell Ex-One wrote:

quoted 38 lines On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:00:16 -0500 "wells" <s0ewoliv@vcu.edu> writes:

> On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:00:16 -0500 "wells" <s0ewoliv@vcu.edu> writes: > >dunno about the idm content here, > > don't care. > > >but it's a brilliant film.. paul thomas > >anderson (director) has done 2 solid films previouis to this one. hard > eight > >& boogie nights. > > > >while not being as good as boogie nights, magnolia is still very grand. > > though it was no Fight Club the themes and ideas were pretty sweet, but > was > there supposed to be an explanations for the frogs. no one in the movie > even > asked why or how. however, the film having somewhat of and unrealistic > base, > i guess its all possible. still if theres no explaining, theres got to be > some kind > of reasoning............i think. > > over// > »-®øÐ-» > > The Jega Discog. > http://www.geocities.com/bellexone/jega.html > stepintime@juno.com > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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2000-01-10 21:03Bell Ex-OneOn Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:32:41 -0400 cognition@ns.sympatico.ca (Andrew Duke) writes: >re: th

From:: Bell Ex-One <stepintime@juno.com>
To:: <cognition@techno.ca>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:03:21 -0800
Subject:: Re: (idm) magnolia

On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:32:41 -0400 cognition@ns.sympatico.ca (Andrew Duke) writes:

quoted 13 lines re: the frogs in magnolia:

>re: the frogs in magnolia: >saw the film last night. >my girlfriend noticed the >references to exodus 8:2, >so we went to a bookstore >after the movie and read >that passage of the the bible. >talks about the different things >that will happen, the plague of >gnats, of this and that. exodus 8:2 >refers to the plague of frogs. you'd >have to read the bible verse for more >info.andrew duke

good one mate. i couldn't help but notice the "82" made out of rope when the kid jumped off the building in the beginning. had to be something. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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