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heather duby's post to wire release on sub pop is a wonderful album that sits somewhere the grey zone that you are referring to. b. On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Andrew Watson wrote:

quoted 15 lines Hi, I'm looking for names of groups who play instruments over a substantial

> Hi, I'm looking for names of groups who play instruments over a substantial > set of electronic sounds. I'm currently working on a project involving > just this (with guitar and bass), and would like to hear what others are > doing (I've only heard a couple - the more obvious of course). I have a > demo I'd like to send out so associated labels would be much appreciated. > > thanks, > Andrew > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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uh.. new order,electronic,locust. come to mind.. Bryan On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, b. sims wrote:

quoted 32 lines heather duby's post to wire release on sub pop is a wonderful album that

> > > heather duby's post to wire release on sub pop is a wonderful album that > sits somewhere the grey zone that you are referring to. > > b. > > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Andrew Watson wrote: > > > Hi, I'm looking for names of groups who play instruments over a substantial > > set of electronic sounds. I'm currently working on a project involving > > just this (with guitar and bass), and would like to hear what others are > > doing (I've only heard a couple - the more obvious of course). I have a > > demo I'd like to send out so associated labels would be much appreciated. > > > > thanks, > > Andrew > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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Thanks for the links, I checked them out - i am spoonbender sounds interesting although I haven't heard the audio yet. One thing is, though, that these seem to be all bands that use electronic sounds as opposed to, well the opposite - an electronic foundation with effected instruments and other electronic sounds layered on top. In the second case (which is what I am looking for) the instruments act as voices, sometimes primary sometimes not, and they don't have to be present in all sections. I think there can also be a difference in approach (form, etc) but not necessarily. Maybe I'm making a mistake with this distinction, afterall I haven't heard this stuff yet! I just got the feeling from info/photos on the websites that it's mostly band first and electronic to fill/colour. What do you think? Does anyone know of any groups who fit here? Andrew

quoted 46 lines I saw this band called "the Faint" that used a lot of synths/drum

>I saw this band called "the Faint" that used a lot of synths/drum >machines under their bass/vocals/drums. > >http://www.saddle-creek.com/home.html (go to "sounds" page) > >There's two MP3's on this page by them. They are sort-of an 80's dark >new wave band, but with more unexpected twists to their songwriting. >----- >Also, anyone else here ever heard of Tristeza? You probably will soon >if you haven't already (if you are into the post-rock scene or whatever >(no MP3's here, but still lots of info)) > >http://www.angelfire.com/yt/cvsn/tristeza.html >----- >Has anybody else here heard the band ICU? They are live double >bass/synths/drum programming. > >Oh, also, everybody, check out this band: > >http://geocities.com/Tokyo/Dojo/8884/ they aren't IDM, or a rock band, >but they are great weird electronic music. >----- >Black Cat #13: http://www.blackcat13.cjb.net/ >Ummm... http://www.threeoneg.com this website has some bands that use >synths (the Locust (not mark van whatever), Camera Obscura), as well as >links to more. >------ >I am Spoon-Bender: http://www.iamspoonbender.com/menupage.html >------ >Shit, I've seen a whole bunch of bands live that use electronics, but I >don't have web sites for any of them. >------ >Uhhh... I did this: http://www.angelfire.com/yt/depom/insect.html >...Two MP3's. Laugh all you want. >------ >There's tons more, visit the links on these pages. > >-Andy! >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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I saw this band called "the Faint" that used a lot of synths/drum machines under their bass/vocals/drums. http://www.saddle-creek.com/home.html (go to "sounds" page) There's two MP3's on this page by them. They are sort-of an 80's dark new wave band, but with more unexpected twists to their songwriting. ----- Also, anyone else here ever heard of Tristeza? You probably will soon if you haven't already (if you are into the post-rock scene or whatever (no MP3's here, but still lots of info)) http://www.angelfire.com/yt/cvsn/tristeza.html ----- Has anybody else here heard the band ICU? They are live double bass/synths/drum programming. Oh, also, everybody, check out this band: http://geocities.com/Tokyo/Dojo/8884/ they aren't IDM, or a rock band, but they are great weird electronic music. ----- Black Cat #13: http://www.blackcat13.cjb.net/ Ummm... http://www.threeoneg.com this website has some bands that use synths (the Locust (not mark van whatever), Camera Obscura), as well as links to more. ------ I am Spoon-Bender: http://www.iamspoonbender.com/menupage.html ------ Shit, I've seen a whole bunch of bands live that use electronics, but I don't have web sites for any of them. ------ Uhhh... I did this: http://www.angelfire.com/yt/depom/insect.html ...Two MP3's. Laugh all you want. ------ There's tons more, visit the links on these pages. -Andy! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 6 lines One thing is, though, that these seem to be all bands that use electronic

> One thing is, though, that these seem to be all bands that use electronic > sounds as opposed to, well the opposite - an electronic foundation with > effected instruments and other electronic sounds layered on top. In the > second case (which is what I am looking for) the instruments act as voices, > sometimes primary sometimes not, and they don't have to be present in all > sections.

I'd say the Spaceheads fit your bill. Lots of swirly atmosphereics and beats with great horns overlaid, if I remeber correctly. Only heard it once though, check http://www.insound.com/tour/, it's one of the Tour support, "eps". Not sure how 11 tracks and 50 minutes is an ep though, but it's only $6.50. It's limited too, which reminds me that I need to pick up a copy for myself. Pluramon seems a bit rocky for you definition, but it's on Mille Plateaux, if that gives an indication of quality. Haven't heard the new remix cd though, comments anyone? Maybe Bowery Electric, Labradford, Kranky school of sound? Seefeel maybe, I've been listening to Quique a lot lately. The I Am Spoonbender is great, it's a crazy no-wavy freakout. Cheers, Nirav -- OnNow- Mojave 3- Ask Me Tomorrow "Don't try to make me consistent. I am learning all the time." - R. Buckminster Fuller --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I'm sorry, I hope I'm not completely misunderstanding what you are saying. What I think you are looking for, as I understand it, is an individual or group that uses electronics as a more prominent part of the music instead of as an after thought. Is that right? And the music would be more structured like electronic music is and less with the verse - chorus - verse - chorus structure that most rock music falls pray to. If this sound right them you should check out Acceleradeck: http://www.epitonic.com/dl/acceleradeck.html We where just talking about this guy the other day on the list. It's kind of interesting stuff. The main thing I get from his music (as it pertains to what I think you're talking about) is that his music is mainly Drum & Bass with guitars instead of synth parts. You could also look at it as, My Bloody Valentine with D&B rhythms instead of live drums. I think it sounds pretty cool. especially the song "Traces Of Everything". I like the way the guitars are sort of a wash of texture. Something about the song "Sketch Set" bothers me. I'm not sure what it is... Maybe it's to happy or something. ; ) -=GB=- Andrew Watson wrote:

quoted 68 lines Thanks for the links, I checked them out - i am spoonbender sounds

> Thanks for the links, I checked them out - i am spoonbender sounds > interesting although I haven't heard the audio yet. > > One thing is, though, that these seem to be all bands that use electronic > sounds as opposed to, well the opposite - an electronic foundation with > effected instruments and other electronic sounds layered on top. In the > second case (which is what I am looking for) the instruments act as voices, > sometimes primary sometimes not, and they don't have to be present in all > sections. I think there can also be a difference in approach (form, etc) > but not necessarily. Maybe I'm making a mistake with this distinction, > afterall I haven't heard this stuff yet! I just got the feeling from > info/photos on the websites that it's mostly band first and electronic to > fill/colour. > > What do you think? Does anyone know of any groups who fit here? > > Andrew > > >I saw this band called "the Faint" that used a lot of synths/drum > >machines under their bass/vocals/drums. > > > >http://www.saddle-creek.com/home.html (go to "sounds" page) > > > >There's two MP3's on this page by them. They are sort-of an 80's dark > >new wave band, but with more unexpected twists to their songwriting. > >----- > >Also, anyone else here ever heard of Tristeza? You probably will soon > >if you haven't already (if you are into the post-rock scene or whatever > >(no MP3's here, but still lots of info)) > > > >http://www.angelfire.com/yt/cvsn/tristeza.html > >----- > >Has anybody else here heard the band ICU? They are live double > >bass/synths/drum programming. > > > >Oh, also, everybody, check out this band: > > > >http://geocities.com/Tokyo/Dojo/8884/ they aren't IDM, or a rock band, > >but they are great weird electronic music. > >----- > >Black Cat #13: http://www.blackcat13.cjb.net/ > >Ummm... http://www.threeoneg.com this website has some bands that use > >synths (the Locust (not mark van whatever), Camera Obscura), as well as > >links to more. > >------ > >I am Spoon-Bender: http://www.iamspoonbender.com/menupage.html > >------ > >Shit, I've seen a whole bunch of bands live that use electronics, but I > >don't have web sites for any of them. > >------ > >Uhhh... I did this: http://www.angelfire.com/yt/depom/insect.html > >...Two MP3's. Laugh all you want. > >------ > >There's tons more, visit the links on these pages. > > > >-Andy! > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > >http://im.yahoo.com > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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i haven't listened to these mp3's yet, but most acceleradeck releases sound like wannabe funkstorung/autechre -- On Fri, 07 Jan 2000 10:06:15 Galen Beals wrote:

quoted 3 lines you should check

>you should check >out Acceleradeck: >http://www.epitonic.com/dl/acceleradeck.html

quoted 5 lines We where just talking about this guy the other >day on the list. It's kind of

>We where just talking about this guy the other >day on the list. It's kind of >interesting stuff. The main thing I get from >his music (as it pertains to what >I think you're talking about) is that his >music is mainly Drum & Bass with >guitars instead of synth parts. You could also >look at it as, My Bloody >Valentine with D&B rhythms instead of live >drums.

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