I agree with the last response..
It is not unreasonable to think that
this was a relatively lo-tech operation
involving small group(s) of smart people.
What is more fearful and disturbing is that a group
of human beings found within themselves and
perhaps their beliefs enough motivation and follow-through
to consciously destroy all these lives.
Once someone has such will, little can be
done to stop them. Which begs the question:
Beyond personal motivation from these individuals
and their belief systems, what else was there
to foster this hate? what u.s. operations are
we unaware of overseas? obviously there is
much we don't see..
I am certain more death will follow as a result of this.
I am not certain that those who will be killed
will have deserved to be killed, or that through
bombing & diplomatic measures
future occurrences will be prevented.
We all lose in this occurrence.
Why are such things allowed in this world?
What am i not seeing that I am responsible for?
Why wasn't I a victim this time? The cardboard box-slashed
flight attendant? The bubbling-flesh burned execs in
the wtc stairwells? The crushed fireman with a wife and 3 children?
this is a tragedy of incalculable proportions that
can never be fully explained.
quoted 1 line Sonar<lohrey@agora.rdrop.com> 09/12/01 12:27PM >>>
>>> Sonar<lohrey@agora.rdrop.com> 09/12/01 12:27PM >>>
I respect what you said here, and it's been said a lot. But correct me if
I'm wrong ... this plot would only require a few things: 16-20 suicidal
motherfuckers with knives (easy to smuggle on planes), four of which can
steer a commercial airliner (easy enough, as I understand, once it's in the
air). All they'd have to do is get together in a hotel room and plan it to
take place on a certain day, easy enough ... So why does it have to have
been a state, again? Or even Bin Laden ... it actually seems pretty easy to
carry out. Stunningly easy. I wonder where the 4th plane was headed. I
assume the passengers must have gotten the best of the hijackers on that
one.
I think the use of the word "war" is a bit out of place, personally. Could
have been any of a thousand extremist terrorist cells, funded by anyone.
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Subject: [idm] re:bombings
quoted 3 lines ive kept silent for the most while. this is my opinion.
> ive kept silent for the most while. this is my opinion.
>
> anyone who believes that this was terrorist is seriously mistaken.
multiple
quoted 6 lines hijackings, in multiple cities, multiple targets with civilian targets for
> hijackings, in multiple cities, multiple targets with civilian targets for
> maximum psychological impact.
>
> these are actions only possible by another nation-state, or an alliance of
> nation-states. it is simply an act of war. it was meant to divert from
> another action, military or otherwise, that has yet to be reveiled or
found
quoted 4 lines out. it is in all purposes impossible for a terrorist organization to do
> out. it is in all purposes impossible for a terrorist organization to do
> this. terrorists are amateurs aiming for terrorism, not mass warfare.
>
> one must also consider the intelligence and assets that such a strike
would
quoted 1 line need. hidden agents, sleeper agents, etc. these things are all available
> need. hidden agents, sleeper agents, etc. these things are all available
to
quoted 8 lines a nation-state through its intelligence community.
> a nation-state through its intelligence community.
>
> i take in consideration the excellent novels of tom clancy, who eerily
> considered the destruction of capitoll hill with all members of cabinet,
> congress and the president in his book debt of honour. the destruction was
> made by a jet that crashed into capitoll hill. creepy, isnt it?
>
> the images are horrific. the wtc, rubble in nyc. isnt the airspace over
the
quoted 21 lines white house, the pentagon restricted?
> white house, the pentagon restricted?
>
> range in canada.
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