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quoted 8 lines Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:13:19 +0100

> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:13:19 +0100 > From: "Barton, Mark" <mark.barton@gs.com> > Subject: Autechre at the Fridge > > What did people think of Autechre last night? - I thought they did a > storming set. Terrible sound system though and for some reason the entire > audience appeared to be talking all the way through. Why the hell do people > bother to go to concerts if they don't want to listen?

these days, most people don't go to shows for the music. these are events, social gatherings. it's like going to a batman movie with your friends -- you're not there for the crisp cinematography, but rather the ritualistic throwing of popcorn and soda at the screen.

quoted 5 lines There was so much

> There was so much > talking that a lot of the subtleties were lost and it was hard to > concentrate. I thought some kind of visuals or light show would have been > complimentary - it might have distracted some of the audience enough to stop > them chatting...

i wonder sometimes if some musicians turn their stuff up to ear-shattering levels just to recover people's attention. a "shut up and listen" kind of thing... it's kinda ironic having to wear earplugs if you're there for the sound. still, it gets back to the question of why electronic musicians even bother to have live shows. failing technical glitches, is the highly-programmed/structured music that much different? a majority seem to be there for the social validation trip. -a. -- Alex Reynolds Biology LSP / SAS Computing 15 Mudd Building http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~reynolda/ Department of Biology mailto:reynolda@sas.upenn.edu University of Pennsylvania V +1 215 573.2818 Philadelphia, PA 19104-6228 USA F +1 215 898.8780 ------------------------------------------------------------------- "It is retrograde to clone -- there are other ways of making people identical. We can put them through the same schools and subject them to eight hours of TV every day. That works a lot better. Why do you think Americans are buying SUVs?" -S. Willadsen, Wired, 2/01 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Alex Reynolds wrote:

quoted 2 lines these days, most people don't go to shows for the music. these are

> these days, most people don't go to shows for the music. these are > events, social gatherings. it's like going to a batman movie with

For better or for worse, most shows are booked at places where the live entertainment is only a part of the venue's social function. If it bothers everybody so much, bring along a bunch of fliers which say "Talking is not permitted. Latecomers will be seated between acts at the discretion of management". For the most part, I prefer it that way. Let's face it- live shows are not consistently entertaining enough to stand on their own merits if you go frequently enough. You'll note that the band members are always the among those chatting at the back of the bar during the other people's sets (and not because they're being rude or don't like the music). -rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Here's the irony.. I agree 100%. I've had gigs where people are oblivious to what I'm spinning or being obnoxious for one reason or another (mind you not that I desire total attention while spinning, but at least some kind of ackowledgement). So as retribution I think, okay, I'll start playing harsh/agressive and generally coarse music - loudly so it sounds like crap. And I think in the end, the crowd still doesn't care, andit's only me who thinks it sounds even worse than before. :/ -Gil On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, 2811317939 wrote:

quoted 8 lines : i wonder sometimes if some musicians turn their stuff up to

> : i wonder sometimes if some musicians turn their stuff up to > : ear-shattering levels just to recover people's attention. a "shut up > : and listen" kind of thing... it's kinda ironic having to wear > : earplugs if you're there for the sound. > > if one cannot sound 'good' at very least one can make everyone run and hide. > some sort of reaction. better than boring? >

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At 10:31 12/04/01 -0400, you wrote:

quoted 12 lines Here's the irony..

>Here's the irony.. > > > I agree 100%. I've had gigs where people are oblivious to what I'm >spinning or being obnoxious for one reason or another (mind you not that I >desire total attention while spinning, but at least some kind of >ackowledgement). So as retribution I think, okay, I'll start playing >harsh/agressive and generally coarse music - loudly so it sounds like >crap. > >And I think in the end, the crowd still doesn't care, andit's only me who >thinks it sounds even worse than before.

nah.. you just wanna put on CRAB DAVID (seven days remixed by VVM) and then you'll get a response.. for sure. when you think nobody is paying attention, suddenly (within a matter of seconds, 3-6 secs i reckon) heads turn, en masse, and before long you could have a full scale riot on your hands!! until people realise you aren't actually playing mr craig david. heehee. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org