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1997-09-12 08:11(idm) KnobShitting
1997-09-12 11:37szalemandre Re: (idm) KnobShitting
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1997-09-12 08:11godpup@ix.netcom.comwhat's the deal with all this "knob twiddling" stuff? yeah, as far as programming analog k
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what's the deal with all this "knob twiddling" stuff? yeah, as far as programming analog keyboards and so forth, knob "twiddling" is the method of creating new sounds/patches. but live, neither RDJ or Mikey P. used knobs on any keyboards. both were fucking around with the knobs on their EQs which had all their equipment jacked into, and then that was "patched" into their mixers. (not a guess... chatted with Mikey P. as he was dismantling his "rig.") just awesome timing, and "creative" EQing i guess you could say. you can get those really cool filter sweeps (the ones that usually accompany some "drill and bass" part...) simply by sporadically "opening" a specific bandwith full "throttle." (somewhere midrange i believe...) "twiddling" lots of EQ knobs is what RDJ and Paradinas do best. the difference being Mikey switched between his Akai 3000 which sequenced everything and a 4 track Fostex recorder when loading new songs and samples. RDJ had all his stuff tucked away in his powermac and a zip drive or something. both would fade tracks in and out to give the impression of a "live" performance. not to make this all sound trivial. as i stood about five feet from Mike P, and watched him jump around from his Fostex, to his Mixer, and "typing" away on the A3000, i knew he wasn't just sitting on his ass and twiddling his thumbs. btw, RDJ does own synths. not home built or anything like that. programs drum sounds on a MKS-70, runs them through a signal processor, and samples them. sure he's got other goodies, but the point is rather "moot." (thought i'd throw it in anyway...) and of course, i've got to "plug" atari as this is the computer that Mikey P. "composes" on. (using Cubase of course..) well, that's my babble for the day. any disagreements, comments, and/or words of praise and bright thinking (hehe...) are most welcome. as far as IDM/electronic music being a performance art.... without the lights, lasers, dancing animals, and fanatic worship, i don't think it's music to be "visually entertaining." with the exception of Skinny Puppy and 242. but that's just my opinion. but i'm always right... chrisTiaN --- It has become appallingly clear that our technology has surpassed our humanity. -A.E.
1997-09-12 11:37szalemandregodpup@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > what's the deal with all this "knob twiddling" stuff? yeah
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godpup@ix.netcom.com wrote:
quoted 2 lines what's the deal with all this "knob twiddling" stuff? yeah, as far as> > what's the deal with all this "knob twiddling" stuff? yeah, as far as
well, it's not quite as accurate for these two guys lately as is has been in the past, but it's more of an expression than anything else anyway. kind of like 'shoegazing' (you know, all those dreary guirtarists on stage swaying and staring at the floor. they didn't really *do* anything, but play their music (which is the important part anyway)). like you said, there generally isn't much to *see* at an electronic show. i'm assuming you don't make music yourself (i'm new to the list), but it's hard to be a one man 'show'. there are no other guys to take the load off of getting the song out of the machines, so there's little room for 'performance'. (i'm just talking about one man projects) for projects with more than one member, well, there's less excuse..but why bother anyway? it's music. i do't think knob twiddling is anything to get upset about. i don't have any knobs on any of my gear, except the mixer and a couple volume knobs. :) and besides, when the term was coined, the gear probably didn't have many knobs either, mostly sliders i'd bet. doesn't matter. it should just stay an album title and that's it. :) -eric -- .- Doubtful Productions Evolving Media -. eric sherman http://www.doubtful.com szale@doubtful.com