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2000-02-01 05:22Andrew Schrock (idm) Mike Yui, Dockstader
└─ 2000-02-01 06:19Ed Hall Re: (idm) Mike Yui, Dockstader
└─ 2000-02-01 16:16Andrew Schrock Re: (idm) Mike Yui, Dockstader
├─ 2000-02-01 16:39John Bush RE: (idm) Mike Yui, Dockstader
└─ 2000-02-01 16:42Ed Hall Re: (idm) Mike Yui, Dockstader
├─ 2000-02-01 16:38Andrew Schrock Re: (idm) Mike Yui, Dockstader
└─ 2000-02-01 23:33Andrew Schrock (idm) Re: Dockstader
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2000-02-01 05:22Andrew SchrockTo re-enforce the statements given previously: The Mike Yui "small sounds" CD is great. So
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To re-enforce the statements given previously: The Mike Yui "small sounds" CD is great. Sort of like Pita meets Chris Watson meets Oval. Not an overly complex listen, but interesting to go from speakers to headphones and back again. The samples retain a lot of digital-ness: you can hear the start and stop points sometimes, which does nothing but add to the effect of the CD. AND my Tod Dockstader "8 electronic pieces" is in the mail. I thought GEMM sucked, but if I get this item Ok, I may just change into a raving fan. I've been looking for this LP reasonably priced for literally years after I heard it in my schools listening library. I passed it up for $20 once, and have never forgiven myself. Any other Dockstader fans out there? (other than aphex twin o' course) He seems to be somewhat of an unknown in the electro-acoustic world. A pity. He's the tits. Andrew -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-02-01 06:19Ed HallI'm a semi-fan. I've got "Apocalypse" and another one of his longer works that I recorded
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I'm a semi-fan. I've got "Apocalypse" and another one of his longer works that I recorded off of KPFK (Los Angeles) two decades ago (back when they actually played music for something other than its political significance). His pieces definitely have their moments. More inspiring to me is the fact that he actually managed to do some significant electro-acoustic music outside of the Academic clique back when such was almost unheard of. This makes him the artistic godfather of RDJ and legions of other bedroom electronic musicians (most of whom will never hear him). Was "GEMM" the retrospective CD of him that came out a couple of years ago? Or is it some other work? -Ed --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-02-01 16:16Andrew SchrockOn Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Ed Hall wrote: > I'm a semi-fan. I've got "Apocalypse" and another on
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Ed Hall wrote:
quoted 9 lines I'm a semi-fan. I've got "Apocalypse" and another one of his longer> I'm a semi-fan. I've got "Apocalypse" and another one of his longer > works that I recorded off of KPFK (Los Angeles) two decades ago (back > when they actually played music for something other than its political > significance). His pieces definitely have their moments. More > inspiring to me is the fact that he actually managed to do some > significant electro-acoustic music outside of the Academic clique > back when such was almost unheard of. This makes him the artistic > godfather of RDJ and legions of other bedroom electronic musicians > (most of whom will never hear him).
Exactly. He was (and apparently still is) an unknown among unknowns. His pieces are as affecting to me as, say Subotnick, but I'm not sure he'll never get that much recognition.
quoted 2 lines Was "GEMM" the retrospective CD of him that came out a couple of years> Was "GEMM" the retrospective CD of him that came out a couple of years > ago? Or is it some other work?
Sorry this was confusing the way I worded it. I was referring to GEMM as in the online music distributor (www.gemm.com). I have no idea if there was a Dockstader retrospective recently. I know his "apocolypse" release has been stuck on CD with "quarterstaff" and re-released, but that's the only re-release I remember off the top of my head. Andrew -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-02-01 16:39John Bush> Exactly. He was (and apparently still is) an > unknown among unknowns. His pieces are >
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quoted 4 lines Exactly. He was (and apparently still is) an> Exactly. He was (and apparently still is) an > unknown among unknowns. His pieces are > as affecting to me as, say Subotnick, but I'm > not sure he'll never get that much recognition.
He's definitely my favorite electronic/ambient/tape/whatever composer, one of the few that actually created evocative music instead of merely experimenting with electronics and tapes...
quoted 4 lines I know his "apocolypse" release has> I know his "apocolypse" release has > been stuck on CD with "quarterstaff" > and re-released, but that's the only > re-release I remember off the top of my head.
There's Quatermass too, though that may be what you meant by Quarterstaff. ;) I don't know of any other reissues myself, though we have quite a bit of information on the man at http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=11:25:52|AM&p=amg&sql=B5932~C .John. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-02-01 16:42Ed HallAndrew Schrock <aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu> wrote: :I have no idea if there : was a Dockstad
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Andrew Schrock <aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu> wrote: :I have no idea if there : was a Dockstader retrospective recently. I know his "apocolypse" release : has been stuck on CD with "quarterstaff" and re-released, but that's the : only re-release I remember off the top of my head. Forced Exposure ("http://www.forcedexposure.com/") lists two CD's: "Quartermass" and "Apocalypse". Both are on the Starkland label. See "http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/dockstader.tod.html". -Ed --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-02-01 16:38Andrew SchrockYeah, you're right, there were two. OOps. Andrew -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.
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Yeah, you're right, there were two. OOps. Andrew -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Ed Hall wrote:
quoted 13 lines Andrew Schrock <aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu> wrote:> Andrew Schrock <aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu> wrote: > :I have no idea if there > : was a Dockstader retrospective recently. I know his "apocolypse" release > : has been stuck on CD with "quarterstaff" and re-released, but that's the > : only re-release I remember off the top of my head. > > Forced Exposure ("http://www.forcedexposure.com/") lists two CD's: > "Quartermass" and "Apocalypse". Both are on the Starkland label. > See "http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/dockstader.tod.html". > > -Ed > >
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2000-02-01 23:33Andrew SchrockOk. Here's the real info from the starkland web site, which I'm crossposting to excuse mys
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Ok. Here's the real info from the starkland web site, which I'm crossposting to excuse myself mistakenly spelling "quatermass" as "quarterstaff", and mis-remembering exactly what they were compilations of. They are indeed compilations of Dockstader's work, but not the ones I thought initially. Hope I didn't confuse anybody too much. Tod Dockstader - Quatermass (ST-201) Introduction: Edward Tatnall Canby. Total Time: 73:11. With over 25 outstanding reviews, Starkland's first two CDs have led to the recognition of Dockstader as one of the finest electronic music composers ever. The Washington Post calls Dockstader "one of the giants in the field," while Stereophile places his output "on a par with the best." This musique concrte master carefully supervised the transfer from his original tapes to the final digital master, and the resulting sound is extraordinary. The booklets for these two CDs offer the most complete Dockstader documentation to date. Fanfare's critic found the booklets "gratifyingly thorough...among the best prepared I've seen." This CD contains the playful Water Music (1963), the 45 minute work many regard as his masterpiece, Quatermass (1964), and the premiere recording of Two Moons (1964; spinoffs from Quatermass). Tod Dockstader - Apocalypse (ST-202) Introduction: Craig Anderton. Total Time: 73:34. This is the second of Starkland's two highly praised Dockstader CDs. Fanfare describes them as "an astounding technical and artistic success," while Option finds them "essential for anyone interested in electronic music," and France's Revue & Corrige calls them "veritable references...Two CDs you should urgently get." The detailed booklets and high quality sound led England's The Wire to write: "The obsessive care with which Starkland have compiled these extraordinary recordings should ensure that Dockstader will be remembered as the innovative, visionary figure he undoubtedly was." This CD contains Luna Park (1961), which a Fanfare critic called "one of the finest works of electronic music I've ever heard," Traveling Music (1960), Drone (1962), the violent Apocalypse (1961), Two Fragments (1961), and the premiere recording of Four Telemetry Tapes (1965), Dockstader's last true organized sound pieces. -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org