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1995-08-11 16:22Erkki RautioI don't mind people discussing the relevancy of jazz with the IDM genre on this list. Befo

From:: Erkki Rautio <trerra@uta.fi>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:22:11 +0300 (EET DST)
Subject:: Acid jazz vs. Jazz, etc.

I don't mind people discussing the relevancy of jazz with the IDM genre on this list. Before we decide what is kosher and thislisty/off-thislisty, we should actually decide what the IDM we are talking about _actually_ is. Which wouldn't be so easy task after all, don't you think? I think this genre keeps developing with any new style crossovers (e.g. ambient jungle/artcore, easy listening/IDM, Carl Craig and Richie Hawtin mixing Mo Wax records, Wagon Christ going jazz) coming all the time, so it would be only foolish to strictly limit the discussion to "You shall not talk about acid jazz on the IDM list" or "You shall not talk about jungle on the IDM list", etc. So, as long as people are interested in keeping their influences wide, discuss them and maybe the backgrounds in the styles of this music, analyzing and so on, I'm all for that. As corny as it may sound, let's not forget that little "I" letter in the name of this list :) Peace, ERkki Tampere, pHinland trerra@uta.fi

1995-08-11 13:57James SkiltonErkki Rautio wrote on Fri, 11 Aug 95 14:22:11 BST : > > I don't mind people discussing the

From:: James Skilton <JAMESS@firefox.co.uk>
To:: Erkki Rautio <trerra@uta.fi>, idm <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 11 Aug 95 14:57:48 +0100 (BST)
Subject:: Re: Acid jazz vs. Jazz, etc.
Reply to:: Acid jazz vs. Jazz, etc.

Erkki Rautio wrote on Fri, 11 Aug 95 14:22:11 BST :

quoted 6 lines I don't mind people discussing the relevancy of jazz

> > I don't mind people discussing the relevancy of jazz > with the IDM genre on this list. Before we decide what is > kosher and thislisty/off-thislisty, we should actually > decide what the IDM we are talking about _actually_ is. > Which wouldn't be so easy task after all, don't you think?

There is obviously a "core" sound/style which the IDM moniker is actually attached to - but the definition of this becomes very vague. Reading the introductory stuff, the definition is an extension of the WARP "Artificial Intelligence" idea. And since WARP have dropped that phrase from their releases, and have also branched out in a number of directions (Eg Red Snapper, Link) then the base for discussion becomes broader. It is healthy to discuss music on every fringe of this very vague fuzzy set we call "idm", whether it be ambient, funky stuff, jungle, 313-style techno or whatever.

quoted 7 lines I think this genre keeps developing with any new style

> I think this genre keeps developing with any new style > crossovers (e.g. ambient jungle/artcore, easy listening/IDM, > Carl Craig and Richie Hawtin mixing Mo Wax records, Wagon > Christ going jazz) coming all the time, so it would be only > foolish to strictly limit the discussion to "You shall not > talk about acid jazz on the IDM list" or "You shall not talk > about jungle on the IDM list", etc.

Quite.

quoted 6 lines So, as long as people are interested in keeping their

> > So, as long as people are interested in keeping their > influences wide, discuss them and maybe the backgrounds in > the styles of this music, analyzing and so on, I'm all > for that. As corny as it may sound, let's not forget that > little "I" letter in the name of this list :)

Agreed. But for this list, I (and doubtless many others) would be financially a lot richer, and a lot poorer in the sense of discovering music. I must admit that I share that thanks with the record labels themselves, particularly the WARP stable, as my obsession with the label has lead me to buy, and thus introduced me to material as diverse as Red Snapper, Drexciya, FUSE and even THK. And this diversification within the record labels we attend to here (Rising High, Rephlex spring to mind as other rather obvious examples) leads to an enriching of my record collection, and possibly even my life, if you can stop yourself choking! :) So I say carry on, but we would obviously have to stop short of people posting Miles Davis discographies (or by the same token, block reviews of the latest Suburban Base releases). OK enough of my blather, the "I"s have it? cheers, J ^ __________ ________.__/_____ _||_/ James Skilton aka Steady J _[]/_____________[.__\____-_ DJ and Party Animal | | Part Time Hedonist |____________________________| Full Time Technohead |__|-' '-|__| Steady-J@Firefox.co.uk

Acid jazz vs. Jazz, etc.