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Theorema Binario
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Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:57:25 -0500
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Re: [idm] Switching
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max/msp has more objects for mac than for pc,thats the reason mac rocks. On 4/21/05, egyptian zombie robot <egyptianzombierobot@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 116 lines Chris Hopcroft asks: PC or Mac?> >> Chris Hopcroft asks: PC or Mac? > >> RB: Both. Mostly Mac, just for convenience and quality. The build is > >> better. But it's not as customisable. With a PC, if you're a real geek > >> you can get ahead of everyone with loads of components. Apple is cased > >> in concrete, but it is concrete nonetheless and you can rely on that > >> sometimes. > > > And that's just funny. True, too. One of the most concise analyses > > I've seen of the differences between PC and Mac. PCs offer a lot of > > freedom, but also a lot of risk, sometimes too much of both. Macs offer > > a known, familiar reliability, but that can also be stifling. > > > It mirrors my own experience with switching. I've lost all the > > headaches I had from my PC days of worrying about compatibility and > > security, but I've gained headaches from not being able to run certain > > software and games. > > > *sigh* > > As someone who also recently switched, i've not run into this 'wall' yet. I > mean I got my powerbook for some very specific tasks: video editing in > iMovie, djing in Traktor, messing with tracks in Ableton Live, and possibily > doing a spot of web development while on the road. But as I've explored the > new mac, I've been working on seeing if I couldn't use it to mirror and > eventually replace my PC workstation.... so far most programs I've been able > to replace, standard fare like FTP programs and the like.... but even those > took a while to find. We'll see where this platform ends up in the pantheon > of my computer use.... it's a little early to say now. > > - eric m. > > On 4/20/05, Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> wrote: > > > > esa ruoho wrote: > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A3895806 > > [snip] > > > > > > Toni Ahvenainen asks: How do Autechre know when their idea is "finished > > > music" ready to be published, and when not? > > > RB: We try and see a track through to its end. Some tracks just end up > > > getting shelved if we can't agree, and some tracks will stand the test > > > of time. We'll pull them off the shelf and say, "Yeah that's really > > > good." But it's unlikely that tracks like that will end up on the album. > > > Albums tend to be tracks worked on from one day to the very end, even if > > > it's over a period of a year or two. > > > > You know, this really summarizes the changeup in their career for me. > > > > I feel like, from Incunabula up to, somewhere between LP5 and Confield, > > (perhaps including LP5 and perhaps not) - it seems that their tracks are > > really finished compositions that "stand the test of time". I pull > > those albums and EPs out and listen and think "Yeah that's really good." > > > > Somewhere after that, however, while I can still appreciate the music, > > it sounds more like experiments they were still working on up until the > > day the album was released. It's awesome, interesting stuff - even > > visceral and emotional - but on a very different level. It grows on me, > > but in a very different way, and when I want to listen to it again it's > > much less often than their older work and for different reasons. > > > > So it definitely feels to me like their earlier stuff are "classic > > compositions" and their later stuff is "works in progress from the > > experimental lab of Autechre." And it struck me that they sort of > > recognize that themselves, that there are some tracks that they "finish" > > and others they don't, and that the stuff they kept working on is what > > goes on the albums. I wonder if that's changed in the past 5-6 years or > > if it's always been that way. In other words, I wonder if it's them or > > me - if they've changed how they create and release music, or if it's > > just a threshold in my own psychology - maybe I am just incapable of > > perceiving music beyond a certain level as being a finished whole, a > > complete composition. Maybe I'm just tied down by what I'm used to from > > musical tradition and convention. > > > > Interesting to ponder, but pointless unless I can ask them if they used > > to once upon a time release their "finished" tracks or if even on Amber > > they were slapping together the album from music they were working on up > > until the deadline. Until the day I can ask them that, I'm stuck with > > approaching their later music much differently than I approach their > > earlier music. Bascially, on a level where I think it's good, but I > > don't like it nearly as much. And I'll still buy their albums. > > > > > Chris Hopcroft asks: PC or Mac? > > > RB: Both. Mostly Mac, just for convenience and quality. The build is > > > better. But it's not as customisable. With a PC, if you're a real geek > > > you can get ahead of everyone with loads of components. Apple is cased > > > in concrete, but it is concrete nonetheless and you can rely on that > > > sometimes. > > > > And that's just funny. True, too. One of the most concise analyses > > I've seen of the differences between PC and Mac. PCs offer a lot of > > freedom, but also a lot of risk, sometimes too much of both. Macs offer > > a known, familiar reliability, but that can also be stifling. > > > > It mirrors my own experience with switching. I've lost all the > > headaches I had from my PC days of worrying about compatibility and > > security, but I've gained headaches from not being able to run certain > > software and games. > > > > *sigh* > > > > -Adam Piontek, bringing you even more inane ramblings you didn't want. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > -- > > - xenlab > - http://www.ezrpm.com/ > - http://www.xnlb.com/ > >
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