quoted 7 lines except maybe they are the worst breaks ever because they are all so>> except maybe they are the worst breaks ever because they are all so
>> overused? ah we already had the big Amen discussion but my theory is that
>> the less used the break the better ....
>
>Ok, this is just stupid. I don't give a fuck how many jungle ruffnecks
>have used a break. My assessment of breaks is based solely on how I can
>use it, and how versatile it is. The tone of the drums, and the overall
i agree. moreover i have to wonder: is this an indictment of guys like
plug, animals on wheels, squarepusher, vat? they've all used the amen, and
to awesome effect imo. none of them let the historical "baggage" of amen,
paris, whatever get in the way of making good tunes. if anything they used
the break to turn some of the more conservative facets of dnb on it's ears.
much of the plug series is like a hilarious inside joke to me, but the
real punchline is that the tunes are top.
the early Rephlex movement used to call for the end of the 909 and 808.
how do i reconcile that with d'arcangelo (sp), like a tim, and other
Rephlex artists who have since used these instruments? could it be that
their original assessment of the situation was made in the heat of the
moment (during the deluge of early 90's 'ardcore and pop-techno), and that
maybe they rethought their politic? maybe a drum machine wasn't the enemy.
. .maybe it's usage was.
convictions made convicts. if you don't like the sound of it, fine. maybe
it sounds like ass to you. but if you allow the fact that the sound has
been "overused" (a loaded and subjective word no doubt) to keep you from
using it then you're doing yourself a real disservice in the songwriting
department imo. a whole lot of crap has been made on just about every
instrument imaginable. besides, in these post-post-post-post-modern times
isn't a little stylistic nod fun now and again?
i missed the amen discussion, but i've felt it's resonances ever since i
subbed. sad to hear that autechre-styled prog rock is in style but the
amen is not. i can't make heads or tails of that thinking, personally.
disclaimer: i am an old raver. a "jungle ruffneck" if you will. the
sound of a properly mashed amen is like, well, music to my ears. thusly
jeff explains himself right out of the discussion :)
-jeff
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