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quoted 3 lines "Art" is NOT a high-falootin' word and it's not a judgemental word, it> "Art" is NOT a high-falootin' word and it's not a judgemental word, it's
>just a normal everyday dictionary word that includes music, painting,
>sculpture, writing, design, acting, etc, etc.
Actually, if you take the dictionary definition of "Art" it means any skill
or craft. IE--the chap working on the assembly line is an artist at what
he does. ...and since you won't see the common working man at the art
museum, I suppose you can take that dictionary definition and throw it in
the trash. Historically, "art" and its appreciation is more of a leisurely
pursuit saved for the bourgeois at the expense of the proletariat. ...and
thus a bunch of hi-brow nonsense that I would rather not be associated with.
quoted 3 lines You make music, right? Do you think that you're not an artist? It's>You make music, right? Do you think that you're not an artist? It's
>admirable to try to be modest about what you're doing, but art is not a bad
>word, it's just a regular word.
You think "art" is a regular word? Just look at the chaps and gals you see
at "institutes of art". It is enough to note that they are called
"institutes" to know that the word has more of a "high-falootin'"
connotation to it then simply a down to earth term.
Leave "art" to the "artists", I'm just a common chap. And once you begin
seeing musical creations as the work of common chaps, you'll begin to lose
the fanboy trappings that your original post suffered from. (The "I'm so
disenchanted with..." blabberings.)
quoted 5 lines I have not done telephone interviews with hundreds of sampling artists to>I have not done telephone interviews with hundreds of sampling artists to
>derive my conclusions, but my informed guess is that the situation you
>describe NEVER happens. Usually the artist will hear the sample first,
>become inspired, and use it in a track in some new, creative way (or
>sometimes in a predictable, shallow way).
Well, in that case...your opinion would be UNinformed, now wouldn't it?
Many talented sampling folks collect a library of sounds and samples that
they then use in a manner that suits there needs. Especially in such cases
whereas entire compositions are constructed using samples.... (Thinking in
particular of Daniel Vahnke's work)
quoted 4 lines For example, Negativland took a ten minute conversation between Ted Koppel>For example, Negativland took a ten minute conversation between Ted Koppel
>and some unnamed Nightline guest and chopped it to bits to create a
>beautiful track whose lyrics are both hilarious and compelling. Of course
>they didn't write the lyrics first.
If you've ever heard Bomb20, whom I referred to in the original statement,
you can tell that the sentences are constructed from a variety of sources
not from a single interview. Just because you can cite one example where
someone sampled first and composed second, doesn't mean it never happens in
the reverse order...
quoted 3 lines God, I can't beleive I'm defending myself from attacks claiming that I>God, I can't beleive I'm defending myself from attacks claiming that I
>don't 'get'
>sampling. What the fuck has happened to this list?
Well, when you start complaining about a track because it uses a sample,
then you come across as someone who is close minded to sampling. Your
comments above seem to show that your knowledge of sampling is a bit
lacking at that....
quoted 6 lines ever impressed by Bomb20 who says things using the voices of many. It'd be> >ever impressed by Bomb20 who says things using the voices of many. It'd be
> >a hundred times easier for him to just speak it, but to pull unique
> >sentences out of samples takes time and a lot of searching.
>
>actually, i personally think it's more difficult to create unique
>words you haven't heard before.
Deleting some unrelated commentary on the creation of poetry. This
sentence is flawed in that there is no such thing as "unique
words". Unless you mean jibberish. I'm assuming you mean to put words
together in a "unique" string, which is what Bomb20 does as he samples
words not sentences....
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