Sorry to keep this thread alive, but I wanted to reply to a couple of
things.
quoted 3 lines Aphex, LFO. ORB, (fill in the blank). You and I will never be able to> Aphex, LFO. ORB, (fill in the blank). You and I will never be able to
> imitate these amazing minds that go behind, what I feel is, the greatest
> music in the world.
I certainly hope not. Anyone who is out to imitate someone else is by
definition a conformist of some sort. Conformity is what ruined "alternative"
music, by allowing umpteen million Seattle bands to become national celebs
overnight.
quoted 3 lines do what these amazing minds do. However, if I own the same records and> do what these amazing minds do. However, if I own the same records and
> had a few technical skills (scratching and beatmatching) do you not see
> that I can sound like the same guy that spun last night? The other thing
And who wants to listen to you sound like the "same guy"? Most DJs around
here spin a certain style of music, be it electro, breakbeat, "rave anthem"
tracks, jungle, hip-hop (LOTS of that in Atl! :), or what have you.
The key to sounding like a hot as shit DJ is in two things (IMHO) -->
1. Music selection- You need to pick music that is in the same style, and
sounds good when played together.
2. Beatmatching/Mixing- When you've got a good collection of music, mixing
it together is both a technical challenge, and an artform.
#1 is most definitely the most time consuming. The local "dj" shop has lots of
people who come in and listen to records for a couple of hours before buying
their weekly stock. You gotta buy good stuff, otherwise you're just throwing
money (and time) away.
#2 goes hand in hand with #1. Sure, most people, given enough time, can learn
to beatmatch and mix. Hell, even I can do it from time to time. But I certainly
don't have a consistent collection of music with which to mix a 3 or 4 hour
set, at least, not one that would keep a crowd motivated at a rave. In fact,
I'll bet that most people on IDM have collections that are well diversified,
which is exactly what IDM is all about.
quoted 3 lines I do not see why some of you IDM'ers who claim to love IDM are not> I do not see why some of you IDM'ers who claim to love IDM are not
> sickened when DJs are becomming more famous than the artists whose
> records they play. I mean, what the hell is KEOKI doing with three CDs
Actually, Keoki is now producing tracks. I've got his latest, "Caterpillar".
It's not too bad (nowhere near as good as something like Access by Tim/Misjah),
but at least he's moving into the creation arena.
quoted 2 lines out. I have never heard him spin, I will admit that. But he has more CDs> out. I have never heard him spin, I will admit that. But he has more CDs
> out on the market than some of the artists we talk about on this group.
So what? That is effectively the other role of a DJ... to get the music out
to the masses.
quoted 3 lines Don't you see it as a form of exploitation. the Artists doing the work> Don't you see it as a form of exploitation. the Artists doing the work
> for the DJ's. It isn't the DJ who is making the people dance you idiots,
> it is the people who wrote and produced the track.
In this particular case, it is both. If the artist did not write the track,
there would be no music. But if the DJ were not there to put the needle on
the record, would there be any more music?
At any rate, just my $.02
OnNow: Dave Clarke, "Archive One".
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