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Mon, 12 Feb 1996 21:31:23 -0700 (MST)
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(idm) DENVER is STILL AWFUL
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OK IDM'ers, I hear some of your arguments about this DJ thing. As I said in my last post and as some of you have replied to me and maybe on this group, there are some fantastic DJ's out there, I can't deny that. Many DJ's have done a lot for the music and some are famous for their skills at keeping the crowd moving til 6am or whenever. Some have amazong skills at beat matching or scratching or whatever. but do me a favor, WAKE UP! Do you not see that DJing, while being an artform, can be mastered by virtually anybody. Neither I nor you will never master the likes of artists like Aphex, LFO. ORB, (fill in the blank). You and I will never be able to imitate these amazing minds that go behind, what I feel is, the greatest music in the world. I have some analogue pieces, but that doesn't mean I will ever be able to do what these amazing minds do. However, if I own the same records and had a few technical skills (scratching and beatmatching) do you not see that I can sound like the same guy that spun last night? The other thing that is wrong with putting these DJs on a pedestal is we lose sight of who is making the music. I went to a rave on New Years eve in LA. During the set of one DJ, the crowd next was going nuts to a Beaumont Hannant tune from Basic Data Manipulation. . . An excellent track, that the DJ was famous for playing. Everyone was talking about this guy as soon as his set was done. What about Beaumont Hannant himself. He probaably worked hours to compose this track (track #2 on basic data manipulation...).The DJ only spent a few dollars buying the record and two seconds to put the needle on the record. I do not see why some of you IDM'ers who claim to love IDM are not sickened when DJs are becomming more famous than the artists whose records they play. I mean, what the hell is KEOKI doing with three CDs out. I have never heard him spin, I will admit that. But he has more CDs out on the market than some of the artists we talk about on this group. Don't you see it as a form of exploitation. the Artists doing the work for the DJ's. It isn't the DJ who is making the people dance you idiots, it is the people who wrote and produced the track. Would it have made a difference if I put the needle on the Beaumont record rather than the other DJ. No, the crowd would not have noticed a thing! They loved Beaumont's music. I am sorry, but there is a big mistake in giving a DJ status and not giving credit to the ARTISTS. this is why I am bitter about DENVER not having AUtechre come to town, yet there is a rave every SAT. We owe the Artists a lot. Otherwise, you and I would not belong to this discussion group! Any more takers. GIL /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ NAME:Gil aka GMV500 E-MAIL: videla@colorado.edu WEB PAGE: yeah, right! check out my friends- http://ares.csd.net/~albumsup - http://www.uea.ac.uk/~u9506276 PHILOSOPHY: AMBIENT+BREAKDANCE= IDM FINAL WORDS: MORE BEER! \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\\/\\/\/\/\\//\/\/\/\/\/\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/