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2000-09-26 00:25Djslacker227@aol.comForget pop we're famous: Darren Keast writes in an article about kid 606 pissing off "the

From:: <Djslacker227@aol.com>
To:: <jeff@spof.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:25:48 EDT
Subject:: Re: [idm] All this talk of IDM in pop music ...

Forget pop we're famous: Darren Keast writes in an article about kid 606 pissing off "the snobby electronic music intelligentsia" in the latest issue of URB "people on the idm e-mail list ridicule him... deviant listeners like those in the bitchy intelligent dance music scene...haters on the idm list whine that he gets too much attention outside their exclusive ranks" URB is definitely a pop culture magazine, and I think that it confirms my conjecture that the idm list and experimental techno have an elitist image, especially thanks to that whole kid 606/lexaunculpt string that pretty much killed any rep or integrity that the list had at all. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-09-26 00:45component> "people on the idm e-mail list ridicule him... deviant listeners like those > in the bit

From:: component <component@mindstorm.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:45:20 -0400
Subject:: [idm] IDM in the press

quoted 1 line "people on the idm e-mail list ridicule him... deviant listeners like

> "people on the idm e-mail list ridicule him... deviant listeners like

those

quoted 2 lines in the bitchy intelligent dance music scene...haters on the idm list whine

> in the bitchy intelligent dance music scene...haters on the idm list whine > that he gets too much attention outside their exclusive ranks"

This isn't so much that he gets attention outside the IDM ranks as so much that there is kinda a 606 media saturation going on. The press is looking for a new Aphex Twin. There's alot of other artists out there that are equally worthy of coverage that aren't getting it. Where's the interview in URB with Proem ? or the 3 page feature on L'Lusine ? For the record. I'm starting to to warm up to some of the kid 606 stuff.

quoted 2 lines URB is definitely a pop culture magazine, and I think that it confirms my

> URB is definitely a pop culture magazine, and I think that it confirms my > conjecture that the idm list and experimental techno have an elitist

image,

quoted 1 line especially thanks to that whole kid 606/lexaunculpt string that pretty

> especially thanks to that whole kid 606/lexaunculpt string that pretty

much

quoted 1 line killed any rep or integrity that the list had at all.

> killed any rep or integrity that the list had at all.

I think a comment like that is absolute bullshit. Just because there is a bit of dis-agreement and disention about the popular opinion of an artist does not mean that the reputation of that list is trashed. There are about 1000 people on this list and with that 1000 opinions to go along. Not every review is going to be a glowing one, and thats a good thing! Rob component records www.mindstorm.com/component --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-09-26 01:09EggyToastAt 08:45 PM 9/25/00 -0400, component wrote: > > "people on the idm e-mail list ridicule hi

From:: EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu>
To:: component <component@mindstorm.com>, <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:09:09 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] IDM in the press
Reply to:: [idm] IDM in the press

At 08:45 PM 9/25/00 -0400, component wrote:

quoted 11 lines "people on the idm e-mail list ridicule him... deviant listeners like

> > "people on the idm e-mail list ridicule him... deviant listeners like >those > > in the bitchy intelligent dance music scene...haters on the idm list whine > > that he gets too much attention outside their exclusive ranks" > >This isn't so much that he gets attention outside the IDM ranks as so much >that there is kinda a 606 media saturation going on. The press is looking >for a new Aphex Twin. There's alot of other artists out there that are >equally >worthy of coverage that aren't getting it. Where's the interview in URB >with Proem ? or the 3 page feature on L'Lusine ?

i wonder if this has to do with the accessibility of the names. obviously something easy to say yet odd like Aphex Twin is catchier than a mish mash of new words. essentially anything that is problematic to pronounce will be excluded from the mainstream media, with the exception of autechre (who also usually avoids mainstream media). maybe they like the kid thing. kid rock, kid 606, both agressive.. hmm...

quoted 16 lines For the record. I'm starting to to warm up to some of the kid 606 stuff.

>For the record. I'm starting to to warm up to some of the kid 606 stuff. > > > URB is definitely a pop culture magazine, and I think that it confirms my > > conjecture that the idm list and experimental techno have an elitist >image, > > especially thanks to that whole kid 606/lexaunculpt string that pretty >much > > killed any rep or integrity that the list had at all. > >I think a comment like that is absolute bullshit. Just because there is a >bit >of dis-agreement and disention about the popular opinion of an artist does >not mean that the reputation of that list is trashed. There are about 1000 >people on this list and with that 1000 opinions to go along. Not every >review >is going to be a glowing one, and thats a good thing!

most non-critical reviews of music are pretty worthless, imo. they start to border on who looks best at the mtv awards at that point (figuratively). cheers, /derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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