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1994-07-17 08:28Mr Aphex
├─ 1994-07-17 08:06Chris.Hilker Re: Mr Aphex
├─ 1994-07-17 19:42Brian Behlendorf Re: Mr Aphex
└─ 1994-07-18 12:07Roy Badami Re: Mr Aphex
└─ 1994-07-19 00:16Greg Schmitz (LIS) Re: Mr Aphex-10,000 is good!
1994-07-17 20:41Lazlo Nibble Re: Mr Aphex
└─ 1994-07-17 21:14Chris.Hilker Re: Mr Aphex
└─ 1994-07-18 12:35Roy Badami Re: Mr Aphex
├─ 1994-07-18 13:19Dave Manning Re: Mr Aphex
└─ 1994-07-19 00:26Greg Schmitz (LIS) the WEA answer
1994-07-17 23:20Re: Mr Aphex
└─ 1994-07-18 03:37djkc Re: Mr Aphex
└─ 1994-07-18 12:26Roy Badami Re: Mr Aphex
1994-07-18 03:05Re: Mr Aphex
1994-07-23 19:00Re: Mr Aphex
1994-07-23 20:09Christian Bartholdsson Re: Mr Aphex
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1994-07-17 08:28transmat@teleport.comFrom the Uprising column in XLR8R mag. The Aphex Twin's album (has sold roughly) 10,000. (
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From the Uprising column in XLR8R mag. The Aphex Twin's album (has sold roughly) 10,000. (The columnist goes on to say, correctly, that for a MAJOR record label, 10,000 copies is shit). So what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell you, they've issued a memorandumb to their "street smart" subsidiary labels to cancel any and all Trance/Techno/Ambient compilations... time...space...transmat@teleport.com bleep on!
1994-07-17 08:06Chris.Hilker>The Aphex Twin's album (has sold roughly) 10,000. (The columnist goes on to >say, correct
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quoted 5 lines The Aphex Twin's album (has sold roughly) 10,000. (The columnist goes on to>The Aphex Twin's album (has sold roughly) 10,000. (The columnist goes on to >say, correctly, that for a MAJOR record label, 10,000 copies is shit). So >what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell you, they've issued a >memorandumb to their "street smart" subsidiary labels to cancel any and all >Trance/Techno/Ambient compilations...
Oh boy. I presume this includes Tommy Boy and NovaMute? C. -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com]
1994-07-17 19:42Brian BehlendorfOn Sun, 17 Jul 1994 transmat@teleport.com wrote: > >From the Uprising column in XLR8R mag.
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On Sun, 17 Jul 1994 transmat@teleport.com wrote:
quoted 6 lines From the Uprising column in XLR8R mag.> >From the Uprising column in XLR8R mag. > The Aphex Twin's album (has sold roughly) 10,000. (The columnist goes on to > say, correctly, that for a MAJOR record label, 10,000 copies is shit). So > what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell you, they've issued a > memorandumb to their "street smart" subsidiary labels to cancel any and all > Trance/Techno/Ambient compilations...
Can anyone name any good IDM comps from a Sire subsidiary? None spring to my mind.... Brian
1994-07-18 12:07Roy Badami> >From the Uprising column in XLR8R mag. > The Aphex Twin's album (has sold roughly) 10,0
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quoted 6 lines From the Uprising column in XLR8R mag.> >From the Uprising column in XLR8R mag. > The Aphex Twin's album (has sold roughly) 10,000. (The columnist goes on to > say, correctly, that for a MAJOR record label, 10,000 copies is shit). So > what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell you, they've issued a > memorandumb to their "street smart" subsidiary labels to cancel any and all > Trance/Techno/Ambient compilations...
Which album is this? Selected Ambient Works II, the most recent Aphex Twin album that I'm aware of, is on Warp, which is hardly a major label (unless it was bought by one at some point, but i don't think so.) Cosmic
1994-07-19 00:16Greg Schmitz (LIS)On Mon, 18 Jul 1994, Roy Badami wrote: > > >From the Uprising column in XLR8R mag. > > The
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quoted 3 lines From the Uprising column in XLR8R mag.> > >From the Uprising column in XLR8R mag. > > The Aphex Twin's album (has sold roughly) 10,000. (The columnist goes on to > > say, correctly, that for a MAJOR record label, 10,000 copies is shit). So
That columnist was insane. Aphex Twin's Selected Ambient Works II is a two-CD album. I can tell you that for *any* domestic album that is priced over $16.99 to sell that many copies is good, even by Warner Brothers' book. I remember a few years ago reading that box sets (Stones, Springsteen, etc.) *rarely* sell over 60,000 copies, so compared to them, which only cost $20 more but have an extra CD and are *BIG NAME* artists, 10,000 copies of a double CD Aphex Twin is not so shoddy methinks! Besides, it hasn't been out *that* long, and it's not really getting typical *WEA* support, (record store promotions, sales incentives, developing artists programs like listening booth spotlights, etc.) Basically, I think that the problem is that ambient music has not found its audience yet, and I really doubt that WEA is going to give up on it already... gschmitz@luna.cas.usf.edu
1994-07-17 20:41Lazlo Nibble>> So what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell you, they've issued a >> memorandumb to
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quoted 6 lines So what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell you, they've issued a>> So what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell you, they've issued a >> memorandumb to their "street smart" subsidiary labels to cancel any and >> all Trance/Techno/Ambient compilations... > > Can anyone name any good IDM comps from a Sire subsidiary? None spring > to my mind....
I liked the Futurhythms disc pretty well. -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com)
1994-07-17 21:14Chris.HilkerThe world according to Lazlo Nibble: > >>> So what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell
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The world according to Lazlo Nibble:
quoted 9 lines So what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell you, they've issued a> >>> So what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell you, they've issued a >>> memorandumb to their "street smart" subsidiary labels to cancel any and >>> all Trance/Techno/Ambient compilations... >> >> Can anyone name any good IDM comps from a Sire subsidiary? None spring >> to my mind.... > >I liked the Futurhythms disc pretty well.
And as Andrew Bennett pointed out to me, Warners -> Interscope -> Tee Vee Toons -> Wax Trax. Groan. C. -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com]
1994-07-18 12:35Roy Badami> And as Andrew Bennett pointed out to me, Warners -> Interscope -> Tee Vee > Toons -> Wax
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quoted 2 lines And as Andrew Bennett pointed out to me, Warners -> Interscope -> Tee Vee> And as Andrew Bennett pointed out to me, Warners -> Interscope -> Tee Vee > Toons -> Wax Trax. Groan.
Where does the Aphex Twin come into this? I take it it has something to do with some US licensing deal....? While were on this tangent of record labels, can someone tell me what the label WEA is? What's it's relationship to Warner, and to Eye-Q (if any). It always puzzles me the way some Eye-Q releases (like Accident in Paradise) have the WEA name (and I think the Warner name) on them as well.... Cosmic
1994-07-18 13:19Dave ManningOn Mon, 18 Jul 1994, Roy Badami wrote: > > > And as Andrew Bennett pointed out to me, Warn
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On Mon, 18 Jul 1994, Roy Badami wrote:
quoted 6 lines And as Andrew Bennett pointed out to me, Warners -> Interscope -> Tee Vee> > > And as Andrew Bennett pointed out to me, Warners -> Interscope -> Tee Vee > > Toons -> Wax Trax. Groan. > > Where does the Aphex Twin come into this? I take it it has something > to do with some US licensing deal....?
In the States, _SAWII_ was licensed to Sire, a subsidiary of Warner Bros. Records.
quoted 5 lines While were on this tangent of record labels, can someone tell me what> While were on this tangent of record labels, can someone tell me what > the label WEA is? What's it's relationship to Warner, and to Eye-Q > (if any). It always puzzles me the way some Eye-Q releases (like > Accident in Paradise) have the WEA name (and I think the Warner name) > on them as well....
WEA is the huge evergrowing....well, suffice it to say that WEA stands for Warner-Elektra-Atlantic, and represents Warner Bros' international companies. If anything, Eye-Q has some sort of licensing agreement with WEA to produce and distribute its music. Dave :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu:::::::: :: "Guaranteed like Yoo-Hoo..." :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::--Beastie Boys:::::::::::::
1994-07-19 00:26Greg Schmitz (LIS)On Mon, 18 Jul 1994, Roy Badami wrote: > While were on this tangent of record labels, can
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quoted 2 lines While were on this tangent of record labels, can someone tell me what> While were on this tangent of record labels, can someone tell me what > the label WEA is? What's it's relationship to Warner, and to Eye-Q
WEA *is* Warner-Elektra-Atlantic, a subsidiary of Time-Warner. Any label, no matter how small or *indie*, that is tied to those three labels is also part of Time Warner, the largest entertainment conglomerate in the world. (I think) Because of Wax Trax/TVT's deal with Interscope, Wax Trax can also then be seen as part of this big picture. (I'm honestly not sure how Aphex Twin is related to WEA) gschmitz@luna.cas.usf.edu
1994-07-17 23:20transmat@teleport.com>The world according to Lazlo Nibble: >> >>>> So what is a major label to do? Well, i'll t
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quoted 14 lines The world according to Lazlo Nibble:>The world according to Lazlo Nibble: >> >>>> So what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell you, they've issued a >>>> memorandumb to their "street smart" subsidiary labels to cancel any and >>>> all Trance/Techno/Ambient compilations... >>> >>> Can anyone name any good IDM comps from a Sire subsidiary? None spring >>> to my mind.... >> >>I liked the Futurhythms disc pretty well. > >And as Andrew Bennett pointed out to me, Warners -> Interscope -> Tee Vee >Toons -> Wax Trax. Groan. >
I guess the message to be learned is F#CK the majors, for they have tiny minds. Fortunately, there are hundreds of labels putting out electronic dance music worldwide. Something the majors have no clue about. time...space...transmat@teleport.com bleep on!
1994-07-18 03:37djkcThe world according to transmat: > >> > >>>> So what is a major label to do? Well, i'll te
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The world according to transmat:
quoted 11 lines So what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell you, they've issued a> >> > >>>> So what is a major label to do? Well, i'll tell you, they've issued a > >>>> memorandumb to their "street smart" subsidiary labels to cancel any and > >>>> all Trance/Techno/Ambient compilations... > >>> > I guess the message to be learned is F#CK the majors, for they have tiny > minds. Fortunately, there are hundreds of labels putting out electronic > dance music worldwide. Something the majors have no clue about. > > time...space...transmat@teleport.com bleep on! >
Yep! I can't believe they're going to cancel EVERYTHING...based on ONE thing. It could have been due to bad promotion or some fault of theirs that made it not sell... this is where the debate comes in about whether it's the demand of the consumers or the money/promotion/etc put behind stuff from the labels. I'd say this is an example of a major label setting an unjustified 'standard' by saying "techno/trance/ambient is dead." This is how the desire for profit kills creativity (i.e., the distribution of creativity)... Once the world is online, we can truly say "F#CK the majors.." BTW, Mixmaster Morris in NME (or MM?) mentioning distribution of music over computers.. yes! -djkc "Some of us live for the future..." "This is a shout going out! (into the future)"
1994-07-18 12:26Roy Badami> Once the world is online, we can truly say "F#CK the majors.." > BTW, Mixmaster Morris i
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quoted 3 lines Once the world is online, we can truly say "F#CK the majors.."> Once the world is online, we can truly say "F#CK the majors.." > BTW, Mixmaster Morris in NME (or MM?) mentioning distribution of music > over computers.. yes!
What happened to this claim that the Future Sound of London were going to release an exclusive mix of Lifeforms on a bulletin board somewhere....? Actually, more to the point, what's happened to the Lifeforms single with the Liz Frazer vocals... is it on or off there days....? cosmic
1994-07-18 03:05AWerks@aol.com>>cspot@netcom.com >And as Andrew Bennett pointed out to me, Warners -> >Interscope -> Tee
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quoted 3 lines cspot@netcom.com>>cspot@netcom.com >And as Andrew Bennett pointed out to me, Warners -> >Interscope -> Tee Vee >Toons -> Wax Trax. Groan.
The only affiliation TVT has with Interscope is Nine Inch Nails. After a prolonged netotiation with TVT, Interscope purchased NIN contract. In turn TVT must be receiving some nice points and their logo on Trent's records.
1994-07-23 19:00TKing13@aol.com> Actually, more to the point, what's happened to the Lifeforms > single with the Liz Fraz
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quoted 2 lines Actually, more to the point, what's happened to the Lifeforms> Actually, more to the point, what's happened to the Lifeforms > single with the Liz Frazer vocals...is it on or off these days?
Evidently it is finally being released by Virgin (after much squabbling tween Virgin & Fontana) quite soon (don't remember exact date...) Should be interesting.......
1994-07-23 20:09Christian BartholdssonTKing13 writes: >> Actually, more to the point, what's happened to the Lifeforms >> single
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quoted 5 lines Actually, more to the point, what's happened to the Lifeforms>> Actually, more to the point, what's happened to the Lifeforms >> single with the Liz Frazer vocals...is it on or off these days? > >Evidently it is finally being released by Virgin (after much squabbling tween >Virgin & Fontana) quite soon (don't remember exact date...)
I saw the video last night on MTV. I was surprised at how uninteresting the music was. They sure picked a very non-commercial track to promote the album. It was a bit of an anticlimax really. - chris@minsk.docs.uu.se