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quoted 2 lines hey is there any actual discussion on this list or is it dead and just

> hey is there any actual discussion on this list or is it dead and just > for promoters these days?

Well, actually, yes. We someti...

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Let's kick up a discussion. Have there been any largely prominent genre births from the umbrella of IDM? If someone hears boards of canada, and has no idea what IDM is, are they able to properly classify it? nate Rick Strom wrote:

quoted 18 lines hey is there any actual discussion on this list or is it dead and just

>>hey is there any actual discussion on this list or is it dead and just >>for promoters these days? >> >> > >Well, actually, yes. We someti... > > > >>www.grep-fu.net >> >> > >Oh, nevermind. > > > >

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hi mantrakid. prominent genre births *related to idm? grime? thats more of a geosocial classification than a genre though. overall though, i dont think any new genres have been 'birthed' so much as an increase in cross-genre pollination taking place -- apparantly, the emo kids are into noise these days, which is okay by me. it may be a cliche concept but i really think that the music scene in general is catching up to the realities of modern day distrubution channels and that sort of scales back the need for having different genres in some cases, as you dont really need to be able to sort things easily if there really aren't too many record stores left! as to whether or not someone who dosen't know what IDM is being able to classify it -- i think that's about as relevant as being able to say the word for 'rose' in french when you see a rose in france.. On 9/26/05, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:

quoted 44 lines Let's kick up a discussion.

> Let's kick up a discussion. > > Have there been any largely prominent genre births from the umbrella of > IDM? If someone hears boards of canada, and has no idea what IDM is, are > they able to properly classify it? > > nate > > Rick Strom wrote: > > >>hey is there any actual discussion on this list or is it dead and just > >>for promoters these days? > >> > >> > > > >Well, actually, yes. We someti... > > > > > > > >>www.grep-fu.net > >> > >> > > > >Oh, nevermind. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > www.neferiu.com <http://www.neferiu.com> > www.neferiu.com > calgary *·* alberta > 403*·*852*·*6801 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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glitch is a prominent IDM sub genre. as for proper classification... due to expansive and de-centralized distribution channels, one may not know that they are in "france" when shopping for music. therefore, the idea of knowing the french word for rose and knowing that boards of canada make IDM certainaly are relevant.... tanya On 9/26/05, Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 59 lines hi mantrakid.

> > hi mantrakid. > > prominent genre births *related to idm? grime? thats more of a > geosocial classification than a genre though. overall though, i dont > think any new genres have been 'birthed' so much as an increase in > cross-genre pollination taking place -- apparantly, the emo kids are > into noise these days, which is okay by me. it may be a cliche concept > but i really think that the music scene in general is catching up to > the realities of modern day distrubution channels and that sort of > scales back the need for having different genres in some cases, as you > dont really need to be able to sort things easily if there really > aren't too many record stores left! > > as to whether or not someone who dosen't know what IDM is being able > to classify it -- i think that's about as relevant as being able to > say the word for 'rose' in french when you see a rose in france.. > > On 9/26/05, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > Let's kick up a discussion. > > > > Have there been any largely prominent genre births from the umbrella of > > IDM? If someone hears boards of canada, and has no idea what IDM is, are > > they able to properly classify it? > > > > nate > > > > Rick Strom wrote: > > > > >>hey is there any actual discussion on this list or is it dead and just > > >>for promoters these days? > > >> > > >> > > > > > >Well, actually, yes. We someti... > > > > > > > > > > > >>www.grep-fu.net <http://www.grep-fu.net> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >Oh, nevermind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > www.neferiu.com <http://www.neferiu.com> <http://www.neferiu.com> > > www.neferiu.com <http://www.neferiu.com> > > calgary *·* alberta > > 403*·*852*·*6801 > > > >

Do people into IDM dress a certain way? What type of shoes do they wear? Do they like other music too, or would that not be core enough?

quoted 79 lines From: tanya pea <tanyapea@gmail.com>

>From: tanya pea <tanyapea@gmail.com> >Reply-To: tanya pea <tanyapea@gmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] question >Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:55:33 -0700 > >glitch is a prominent IDM sub genre. > >as for proper classification... due to expansive and de-centralized >distribution channels, one may not know that they are in "france" when >shopping for music. therefore, the idea of >knowing the french word for rose and knowing that boards of canada make IDM >certainaly are relevant.... > >tanya > >On 9/26/05, Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > hi mantrakid. > > > > prominent genre births *related to idm? grime? thats more of a > > geosocial classification than a genre though. overall though, i dont > > think any new genres have been 'birthed' so much as an increase in > > cross-genre pollination taking place -- apparantly, the emo kids are > > into noise these days, which is okay by me. it may be a cliche concept > > but i really think that the music scene in general is catching up to > > the realities of modern day distrubution channels and that sort of > > scales back the need for having different genres in some cases, as you > > dont really need to be able to sort things easily if there really > > aren't too many record stores left! > > > > as to whether or not someone who dosen't know what IDM is being able > > to classify it -- i think that's about as relevant as being able to > > say the word for 'rose' in french when you see a rose in france.. > > > > On 9/26/05, mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > > > Let's kick up a discussion. > > > > > > Have there been any largely prominent genre births from the umbrella >of > > > IDM? If someone hears boards of canada, and has no idea what IDM is, >are > > > they able to properly classify it? > > > > > > nate > > > > > > Rick Strom wrote: > > > > > > >>hey is there any actual discussion on this list or is it dead and >just > > > >>for promoters these days? > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >Well, actually, yes. We someti... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>www.grep-fu.net <http://www.grep-fu.net> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >Oh, nevermind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > www.neferiu.com <http://www.neferiu.com> <http://www.neferiu.com> > > > www.neferiu.com <http://www.neferiu.com> > > > calgary *?* alberta > > > 403*?*852*?*6801 > > > > > > >

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Well, I finally had to get glasses, I think I'm more IDM now. Or maybe I'm just more crippled. -Adam folk devil wrote:

quoted 4 lines Do people into IDM dress a certain way? What type of shoes do they wear?

> Do people into IDM dress a certain way? What type of shoes do they wear? > Do they like other music too, or would that not be core enough? > >

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lol Adam. Is electro an idm sub-genre, as I hear a lot of it in early autechre and gescom recordings? Or would idm be a sub-genre of electro?

quoted 21 lines From: Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org>

>From: Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] question >Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:13:29 -0400 > >Well, I finally had to get glasses, I think I'm more IDM now. > >Or maybe I'm just more crippled. > >-Adam > >folk devil wrote: >>Do people into IDM dress a certain way? What type of shoes do they wear? >>Do they like other music too, or would that not be core enough? >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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folk devil wrote:

quoted 3 lines Do people into IDM dress a certain way? What type of shoes do they wear?

> Do people into IDM dress a certain way? What type of shoes do they wear? > Do they like other music too, or would that not be core enough? >

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http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/1811050/c/19145.html Handmade, rare, individually signed and number. Limited to 500 pairs. Very IDM Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com http://www.jungle-life.com http://www.boomboombap.com --- darnistle <darnistle@cafe-ebola.com> wrote:

quoted 18 lines folk devil wrote:

> folk devil wrote: > > > Do people into IDM dress a certain way? What type > of shoes do they wear? > > Do they like other music too, or would that not be > core enough? > > > > I wish there were funky IDM fashions!!! > > Just imagine the possibilities: > -Fractal footwear for glitch queens > -Sci-fi hologram-chemises for Autechre freaks > -Globule gloves for rivetheads > -Crystalline coifs for Higher Intelligence Agents > > And don't forget accessories for your favorite pet, > human or otherwise...

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>http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/1811050/c/19145.html >Handmade, rare, individually signed and number. >Limited to 500 pairs. > >Very IDM >

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On Monday, September 26, 2005, at 12:55PM, tanya pea <tanyapea@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 3 lines as for proper classification... due to expansive and de-centralized

>as for proper classification... due to expansive and de-centralized >distribution channels, one may not know that they are in "france" when >shopping for music.

Did you really just say that? Yes, metaphorically that is as much nonsense as it is literally. Read that again. forel elitist fuck --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

mantrakid wrote:

quoted 4 lines Let's kick up a discussion.

> Let's kick up a discussion. > > Have there been any largely prominent genre births from the umbrella > of IDM?

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Ambient Deathcore Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com http://www.jungle-life.com http://www.boomboombap.com --- darnistle <darnistle@cafe-ebola.com> wrote:

quoted 11 lines mantrakid wrote:

> mantrakid wrote: > > > Let's kick up a discussion. > > > > Have there been any largely prominent genre births > from the umbrella > > of IDM? > > > > glitch-house?

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richard james appears to create new genres everytime he releases originally, idm was a poor attempt to quantify his now classic works (which is also the origins of this list) i wonder if analord will spark a renewed interest in lush compos? guess someone will try to give it a name probably won't be as funny as ambient deathcore On 9/26/05, StaticBeats <stupidnametaken@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 30 lines Ambient Deathcore

> > Ambient Deathcore > > > Shimone/Justes > http://www.staticbeats.com > http://www.jungle-life.com > http://www.boomboombap.com > > > --- darnistle <darnistle@cafe-ebola.com> wrote: > > > mantrakid wrote: > > > > > Let's kick up a discussion. > > > > > > Have there been any largely prominent genre births > > from the umbrella > > > of IDM? > > > > > > > > glitch-house? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

Not sure about Analord sparking renewed interest. To look at it from a different angle - Amen Andrews did nothing to revive the jungle scene and it was just as timely. I did note however that Luke Vibert's latest album has a track titled "Analord" on it. Sounds very analordy (if such a thing exists) so perhaps it's an homage to his buddy Richard and the whole Analord scene. Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com http://www.jungle-life.com http://www.boomboombap.com --- kenny ***** <kenny****@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 42 lines richard james appears to create new genres everytime

> richard james appears to create new genres everytime > he releases > originally, idm was a poor attempt to quantify his > now classic works > (which is also the origins of this list) > i wonder if analord will spark a renewed interest in > lush compos? > > guess someone will try to give it a name > probably won't be as funny as ambient deathcore > > > On 9/26/05, StaticBeats <stupidnametaken@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > Ambient Deathcore > > > > > > Shimone/Justes > > http://www.staticbeats.com > > http://www.jungle-life.com > > http://www.boomboombap.com > > > > > > --- darnistle <darnistle@cafe-ebola.com> wrote: > > > > > mantrakid wrote: > > > > > > > Let's kick up a discussion. > > > > > > > > Have there been any largely prominent genre > births > > > from the umbrella > > > > of IDM? > > > > > > > > > > > > glitch-house? > > > > > > >

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On 9/26/05, StaticBeats <stupidnametaken@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 8 lines Not sure about Analord sparking renewed interest. To

> Not sure about Analord sparking renewed interest. To > look at it from a different angle - Amen Andrews did > nothing to revive the jungle scene and it was just as > timely. I did note however that Luke Vibert's latest > album has a track titled "Analord" on it. Sounds very > analordy (if such a thing exists) so perhaps it's an > homage to his buddy Richard and the whole Analord > scene.

Not quite. Analord (the track) first appeared on the 95-99 12" on Planet Mu in 2000. It was released on CD for the first time this year. Neil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I still prefer ambient gabber ;] StaticBeats <stupidnametaken@yahoo.com> wrote:Ambient Deathcore Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com http://www.jungle-life.com http://www.boomboombap.com --- darnistle wrote:

quoted 11 lines mantrakid wrote:

> mantrakid wrote: > > > Let's kick up a discussion. > > > > Have there been any largely prominent genre births > from the umbrella > > of IDM? > > > > glitch-house?

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Well fellow IDM'ers, I have been hanging here for a while and I don't know what it "IDM" means or what it is, but I know it is something that gets me thinking, simple as that. Heres my latest offering, please let me know what you think. Critical feedback etc etc. Is this IDM? Does it matter? Should I give up? Is this pop? I have had mixed feedback and interest from a few labels, but I thought if I can get an honest opionion it would be here.... so here you go http://anechoic.8088.org/bitbin/Lost.mp3 also http://anechoic.8088.org/bitbin/days.mp3 Nice one -bit|bin www.bitbin.co.uk On 26 Sep 2005, at 23:11, you're going to be an elephant wrote: On 26 Sep 2005, at 21:41, darnistle wrote:

quoted 16 lines mantrakid wrote:

> mantrakid wrote: > >> Let's kick up a discussion. >> >> Have there been any largely prominent genre births from the umbrella >> of IDM? > > > > glitch-house? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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i havent gotten a chance to hear these yet, but if you're unsure of whether or not you should give up, then yes. you should. On 9/26/05, mATT hODSON <matthew.hodson@tvu.ac.uk> wrote:

quoted 2 lines Is this IDM? Does it matter? Should I

> Is this IDM? Does it matter? Should I > give up? Is this pop?

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Ok, thanks -bit On 27 Sep 2005, at 00:03, Jong-Ilist Massive wrote:

quoted 12 lines i havent gotten a chance to hear these yet, but if you're unsure of

> i havent gotten a chance to hear these yet, but if you're unsure of > whether or not you should give up, then yes. you should. > > > > On 9/26/05, mATT hODSON <matthew.hodson@tvu.ac.uk> wrote: >> Is this IDM? Does it matter? Should I >> give up? Is this pop? > -- > pete lastname > meatsock@gmail.com > www.grep-fu.net

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ahahahahahhahhahahahahahahahaha -----Original Message----- From: Jong-Ilist Massive [mailto:meatsock@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 7:03 PM To: mATT hODSON Cc: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] question i havent gotten a chance to hear these yet, but if you're unsure of whether or not you should give up, then yes. you should. On 9/26/05, mATT hODSON <matthew.hodson@tvu.ac.uk> wrote:

quoted 2 lines Is this IDM? Does it matter? Should I

> Is this IDM? Does it matter? Should I > give up? Is this pop?

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How can you be so sure about giving up? Have you never felt insecure about your own talent (I'm assuming you're also some sort of producer or composer or musician here? I've listened to both tracks, and altough I haven't found them to be totally amazing or extremely original, they've kept me interested enough to listen until the end and also gave me some ideas I will probably try in my own tunes. "Lost" is a lot more interesting than "days", IMO. I wouldn't give up if I were you, Matt, that's for sure, doesn't matter if you can call it IDM or not. Keep making music. I've been making noise with computers for about 10 years and I still don't know which genre do I "belong" to. This word "belong" is in my opinion one of the main things that leads artists into applying labels to their own music. It's the human need of belonging to some movement, genre, which implies, ways opf thinking, eating, dressing, hanging out, taking drugs, etc. I don't know If I'm right so I'm going to stop. -Jay Devoid -=[Rather Than Love, Than Money, Than Fame, Give Me Truth]=- On 9/27/05, Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 19 lines i havent gotten a chance to hear these yet, but if you're unsure of

> > i havent gotten a chance to hear these yet, but if you're unsure of > whether or not you should give up, then yes. you should. > > > > On 9/26/05, mATT hODSON <matthew.hodson@tvu.ac.uk> wrote: > > Is this IDM? Does it matter? Should I > > give up? Is this pop? > -- > pete lastname > meatsock@gmail.com > www.grep-fu.net <http://www.grep-fu.net> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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quoted 1 line How can you be so sure about giving up?

> How can you be so sure about giving up?

this is the kind of music I feel happy producing/writing/creating/exploiting at the moment, its whats falling out of my head and I guess its something I do not control. Im just 'going with it' right now. Im not new to it but i was not sure about what I had to offer... more to the point.

quoted 2 lines Have you never felt insecure about

> Have you never felt insecure about > your own talent

always.

quoted 8 lines (I'm assuming you're also some sort of producer or composer

> (I'm assuming you're also some sort of producer or composer > or musician here? I've listened to both tracks, and altough I haven't > found > them to be totally amazing or extremely original, they've kept me > interested > enough to listen until the end and also gave me some ideas I will > probably > try in my own tunes. "Lost" is a lot more interesting than "days", IMO.

ok, cool.

quoted 17 lines I wouldn't give up if I were you, Matt, that's for sure, doesn't

> > I wouldn't give up if I were you, Matt, that's for sure, doesn't > matter if > you can call it IDM or not. Keep making music. > > I've been making noise with computers for about 10 years and I still > don't > know which genre do I "belong" to. This word "belong" is in my opinion > one > of the main things that leads artists into applying labels to their own > music. It's the human need of belonging to some movement, genre, which > implies, ways opf thinking, eating, dressing, hanging out, taking > drugs, > etc. > > I don't know If I'm right so I'm going to stop. >

I think your right, and thanks for your opinions and thoughts. And many thanks for listening. Take it easy Jay. -bit

quoted 28 lines -Jay Devoid

> -Jay Devoid > > -=[Rather Than Love, Than Money, Than Fame, Give Me Truth]=- > > > On 9/27/05, Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> i havent gotten a chance to hear these yet, but if you're unsure of >> whether or not you should give up, then yes. you should. >> >> >> >> On 9/26/05, mATT hODSON <matthew.hodson@tvu.ac.uk> wrote: >>> Is this IDM? Does it matter? Should I >>> give up? Is this pop? >> -- >> pete lastname >> meatsock@gmail.com >> www.grep-fu.net <http://www.grep-fu.net> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > --

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true IDMers only wear what Front 242 was wearing in the studio when they recorded Geography. t

This is beautiful music Matt. Thanks much for sharing. It's definitely IDM. If you have more please send it my way. I run an "IDM" webcast and would be happy to add your music to the playlist. Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com http://www.jungle-life.com http://www.boomboombap.com --- mATT hODSON <matthew.hodson@tvu.ac.uk> wrote:

quoted 28 lines Well fellow IDM'ers,

> Well fellow IDM'ers, > > I have been hanging here for a while and I don't > know what it "IDM" > means or what it is, but I know it is something that > gets me thinking, > simple as that. Heres my latest offering, please let > me know what you > think. Critical feedback etc etc. Is this IDM? Does > it matter? Should I > give up? Is this pop? > > I have had mixed feedback and interest from a few > labels, but I thought > if I can get an honest opionion it would be here.... > so here you go > > http://anechoic.8088.org/bitbin/Lost.mp3 > > also > > http://anechoic.8088.org/bitbin/days.mp3 > > Nice one > > -bit|bin > > www.bitbin.co.uk

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Oh thanks very much, Im not digging for compliments here, just some kinda feedback, thanks again -bit On 27 Sep 2005, at 00:16, StaticBeats wrote:

quoted 41 lines This is beautiful music Matt. Thanks much for sharing.

> This is beautiful music Matt. Thanks much for sharing. > It's definitely IDM. If you have more please send it > my way. I run an "IDM" webcast and would be happy to > add your music to the playlist. > > Shimone/Justes > http://www.staticbeats.com > http://www.jungle-life.com > http://www.boomboombap.com > > --- mATT hODSON <matthew.hodson@tvu.ac.uk> wrote: > >> Well fellow IDM'ers, >> >> I have been hanging here for a while and I don't >> know what it "IDM" >> means or what it is, but I know it is something that >> gets me thinking, >> simple as that. Heres my latest offering, please let >> me know what you >> think. Critical feedback etc etc. Is this IDM? Does >> it matter? Should I >> give up? Is this pop? >> >> I have had mixed feedback and interest from a few >> labels, but I thought >> if I can get an honest opionion it would be here.... >> so here you go >> >> http://anechoic.8088.org/bitbin/Lost.mp3 >> >> also >> >> http://anechoic.8088.org/bitbin/days.mp3 >> >> Nice one >> >> -bit|bin >> >> www.bitbin.co.uk >

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I like where the _Lost_ track took me more than _days_ but I liked them both. I agree with Kenny, that your sound is on the right track. I don't mean to insult you at all by making the comparison but _Lost_ had that ambient backdrop reminiscent of BoC. -d On 9/26/05, mATT hODSON <matthew.hodson@tvu.ac.uk> wrote:

quoted 58 lines Oh thanks very much, Im not digging for compliments here, just some

> > Oh thanks very much, Im not digging for compliments here, just some > kinda feedback, > > thanks again > > -bit > > On 27 Sep 2005, at 00:16, StaticBeats wrote: > > > This is beautiful music Matt. Thanks much for sharing. > > It's definitely IDM. If you have more please send it > > my way. I run an "IDM" webcast and would be happy to > > add your music to the playlist. > > > > Shimone/Justes > > http://www.staticbeats.com > > http://www.jungle-life.com > > http://www.boomboombap.com > > > > --- mATT hODSON <matthew.hodson@tvu.ac.uk> wrote: > > > >> Well fellow IDM'ers, > >> > >> I have been hanging here for a while and I don't > >> know what it "IDM" > >> means or what it is, but I know it is something that > >> gets me thinking, > >> simple as that. Heres my latest offering, please let > >> me know what you > >> think. Critical feedback etc etc. Is this IDM? Does > >> it matter? Should I > >> give up? Is this pop? > >> > >> I have had mixed feedback and interest from a few > >> labels, but I thought > >> if I can get an honest opionion it would be here.... > >> so here you go > >> > >> http://anechoic.8088.org/bitbin/Lost.mp3 > >> > >> also > >> > >> http://anechoic.8088.org/bitbin/days.mp3 > >> > >> Nice one > >> > >> -bit|bin > >> > >> www.bitbin.co.uk <http://www.bitbin.co.uk> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

hahah what? you got problems with my url? On 9/26/05, Rick Strom <rick@glowdot.com> wrote:

quoted 26 lines hey is there any actual discussion on this list or is it dead and just

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How can we form an opinion on something, if we missed the show because nobody told us where it is? just a thought..... ------------------------------------- audio @ myosound.com On Sep 26, 2005, at 3:34 AM, Jong-Ilist Massive wrote:

quoted 12 lines hey is there any actual discussion on this list or is it dead and just

> hey is there any actual discussion on this list or is it dead and just > for promoters these days? > > -- > pete lastname > meatsock@gmail.com > www.grep-fu.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

Khanate can be hit and miss live, but their albums are awesome. It has all the stripped down, depressing as fuck elements, of what I loved about early Swans records. And it's true, Four Tet has massively stepped up his game on the live front in the last few years. Jeff On 26-Sep-05, at 2:37 PM, Anthony Cary wrote:

quoted 21 lines Never better stated than as below. After last night's final show of

> Never better stated than as below. After last night's final show of > The Wire Adventures in Modern Music Festival, for instance, I know > that Khanate is crap of the highest order that takes no musical talent > whatsoever and Four Tet is just as good live as I expected. > > On Monday, September 26, 2005, at 01:27PM, Cory O'Brien > <myo.sound@gmail.com> wrote: > >> How can we form an opinion on something, >> if we missed the show because nobody told us where it is? >> >> just a thought..... >> >> >> ------------------------------------- >> audio @ myosound.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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I will let you all know, as I am seeing Four Tet and Koushik tonight. Then we can discuss or argue about my observations!! On 9/26/05, Jeff/Ninja Tune <jeff@ninjatune.net> wrote:

quoted 9 lines And it's true, Four Tet has massively stepped up his game on the live

> > And it's true, Four Tet has massively stepped up his game on the live > front in the last few years. > Jeff > > > > >

does this opinion-building preclude discussion of non-commercial sorts? On 9/26/05, Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 28 lines How can we form an opinion on something,

> How can we form an opinion on something, > if we missed the show because nobody told us where it is? > > just a thought..... > > > ------------------------------------- > audio @ myosound.com > > > > On Sep 26, 2005, at 3:34 AM, Jong-Ilist Massive wrote: > > > hey is there any actual discussion on this list or is it dead and just > > for promoters these days? > > > > -- > > pete lastname > > meatsock@gmail.com > > www.grep-fu.net > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >

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Start a stupid thread, get a bunch of stupid answers. Bonus points for using the word "preclude" though. It's the title of my upcoming album: Preclude to a Master Piece. Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com http://www.jungle-life.com http://www.boomboombap.com --- Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 2 lines does this opinion-building preclude discussion of

> does this opinion-building preclude discussion of > non-commercial sorts?

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yo wtf the brochure told me y'alls were INTELLIGENT dance music fans wtf i was hoping for intelligent stupid responses to my thread. where do i go for a refund? On 9/26/05, StaticBeats <stupidnametaken@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 1 line Start a stupid thread, get a bunch of stupid answers.

> Start a stupid thread, get a bunch of stupid answers.

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No no. This is the INSIPID dance music list. Totally different scene from those cynics on that _other_ list. Refunds available at: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org Sorry for the confusion... Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com http://www.jungle-life.com http://www.boomboombap.com --- Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 12 lines yo wtf the brochure told me y'alls were INTELLIGENT

> yo wtf the brochure told me y'alls were INTELLIGENT > dance music fans > wtf i was hoping for intelligent stupid responses to > my thread. > > where do i go for a refund? > > On 9/26/05, StaticBeats <stupidnametaken@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > Start a stupid thread, get a bunch of stupid > answers. >

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