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Re: [idm] of breaks, amens and such

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2003-12-16 21:26Peter Becker [idm] of breaks, amens and such
└─ 2003-12-19 01:17Tim Moore Re: [idm] of breaks, amens and such
2003-12-17 18:54Eric [idm] re: of breaks, amens and such
2003-12-18 17:36Tom Pereira [idm] Re: of breaks, amens and such
└─ 2003-12-18 17:47a75 Re: [idm] Re: of breaks, amens and such
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2003-12-16 21:26Peter BeckerWhen I said, " find a new break" , I wasn't necessarily scorning or hating. Its just so mu
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When I said, " find a new break" , I wasn't necessarily scorning or hating. Its just so much attention has been given to it that the universe of un-used breaks is being ignored. And that is all. Never said it was played out. "Funky Drummer" has been sampled on ~thousands~ more tracks. I never am bored with that either. So, atomly, I'm not saying its played out. Just the obsession with it. I'm not an amen hata', Amen. "I think one of the things that's pushed me away from IDM in recent years is this orientalism. The idea that a drum sound is played out- that making innovative "sounds" instead of tracks or mixes, is the problem. I'd rather listen to a solid hour-long minimal acid set than listen to some wank show off how many computations per second his Powerbook gets." Yes, I agree with all that. I enjoy checking out all ends of the spectrum. There's good stuff out there in so many corners, from simple to complex, from generic bangin' techno to dsp wank. Re: Hrvatski's use of "Amen"...I think even though he certainly pays respect to it, his incessant use of it was intended to be -somewhat- tongue in cheek. He did indeed use, almost exclusively, the amen break but fucked it up so well and restructured it so well that the -point- was the if you put your mind to it, you wouldn't need to use any other drum sample. Re: Photek....I also can't think of one track where he uses, "Amen". Maybe a snippet here and there but his samples were (are?) far less obvious. Peter np: ramen break --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-12-19 01:17Tim MooreOn Dec 16, 2003, at 4:26 PM, Peter Becker wrote: > Re: Photek....I also can't think of one
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On Dec 16, 2003, at 4:26 PM, Peter Becker wrote:
quoted 4 lines Re: Photek....I also can't think of one track where he uses, "Amen".> Re: Photek....I also can't think of one track where he uses, "Amen". > Maybe > a snippet here and there but his samples were (are?) far less obvious. >
"The Water Margin" (on Form & Function) uses the Amen and just about every other classic breakbeat through its course. Great tune! :-) -- Tim Moore --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-12-17 18:54Eric> When I said, " find a new break" , I wasn't necessarily scorning or hating. > Its just s
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quoted 3 lines When I said, " find a new break" , I wasn't necessarily scorning or hating.> When I said, " find a new break" , I wasn't necessarily scorning or hating. > Its just so much attention has been given to it that the universe of un-used > breaks is being ignored.
Damn Peter, no wonder you're ebay'ing all your music...you need new stuff! I'm sure people would appreciate a list of the best unused breaks that you've come across, though.
quoted 1 line So, atomly, I'm not saying its played out. Just the obsession with it.> So, atomly, I'm not saying its played out. Just the obsession with it.
The breaks we're speaking of are the equivalent of the TB-303 to music that uses breaks and samplers. I wouldn't call it an obsession so much as a formative part of the vocabulary of a style of music. Eric --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-12-18 17:36Tom Pereira>"Funky Drummer" has been sampled on ~thousands~ more tracks. I never am >bored with that
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quoted 2 lines "Funky Drummer" has been sampled on ~thousands~ more tracks. I never am>"Funky Drummer" has been sampled on ~thousands~ more tracks. I never am >bored with that either.
I love it when people do something I've not heard before with a classic break. Viberts "Flithy Drummer" is a perfect example. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-12-18 17:47a75indeed. he cuts it up and makes it his own without going crazy with it. the man aims to pl
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Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:47:36 -0800
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indeed. he cuts it up and makes it his own without going crazy with it. the man aims to please, and there ain't no shame in that game if it's done well. ok, i'm a vibert freak! plugs 1,2 & 3 and 'throbbing pouch' and 'a polished solid' being my favorites on 12/18/03 9:36 AM, Tom Pereira at tompereira@hotmail.com wrote:
quoted 7 lines "Funky Drummer" has been sampled on ~thousands~ more tracks. I never am>> "Funky Drummer" has been sampled on ~thousands~ more tracks. I never am >> bored with that either. > > I love it when people do something I've not heard before with a classic > break. > > Viberts "Flithy Drummer" is a perfect example.
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