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1997-01-04 15:24Your Momma Re: (idm) Richard D. James Album - IT SUCKS!
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1997-01-04 15:24Your Momma> The best thing about this CD is the fact that I did not have to > pay full price for it.
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quoted 7 lines The best thing about this CD is the fact that I did not have to> The best thing about this CD is the fact that I did not have to > pay full price for it. The record store has a continual sale on new > releases. I got it for $13.75, which makes the applied cost just under a > dollar per track, which for the first time in my Aphex Twin buying history > equals pretty much what each track is actually worth, if that much. > > I loathe most of the tracks.
Oooh i remember the same being said about SAW I... The new albums incredible old man... I find it quite funny that some people on this list dont understand tracks that arent at least 8 minutes long, would have voted for Orbital over Squarepusher..? Its way past your bedtime :p kF
1997-01-30 20:42Brother Alphabet> Oooh i remember the same being said about SAW I... 'Cept SAWI was/is good... > The new a
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quoted 1 line Oooh i remember the same being said about SAW I...> Oooh i remember the same being said about SAW I...
'Cept SAWI was/is good...
quoted 3 lines The new albums incredible> The new albums incredible > old man... I find it quite funny that some people on this list dont > understand tracks that arent at least 8 minutes long
It isn't as though I don't understand them - It's just that I don't want to be paying good money for it. If I liked short pointless music I'd buy punk crap cause at least you get 50 tracks per CD.
quoted 3 lines would have voted> would have voted > for Orbital over > Squarepusher..?
Due to geographical limitations, I have no idea what Squarepusher is. Sad, aint it? None of this has been about musical preferences in general, but musical preferences in the specific case of RDJ's latest excuse for a CD release. Nothing else is comparable/debatable here. -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- "I paint what I think, not what I see..." - Pablo Picasso "You're not the boss of me!..." - J. A. Hutto (Pre age 3) http://www2.msstate.edu/~jah10 + jah10@ra.msstate.edu
1997-01-04 16:31Your Momma> I guess the hoards of us who think it sucks just don't get it. Then again > maybe we're
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quoted 5 lines I guess the hoards of us who think it sucks just don't get it. Then again> I guess the hoards of us who think it sucks just don't get it. Then again > maybe we're just getting to old for noise. > > Signed, > clueless boy
Yes!! Wow i cant believe you got it.............
1997-01-29 20:55Brother AlphabetREVIEW ------ Aphex Twin: "Richard D. James Album" U.S. Release, January 28, 1997 Total 15
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REVIEW ------ Aphex Twin: "Richard D. James Album" U.S. Release, January 28, 1997 Total 15 tracks - Combined UK release RDJ + Girl/Boy UK EP __________________________________________________________ The best thing about this CD is the fact that I did not have to pay full price for it. The record store has a continual sale on new releases. I got it for $13.75, which makes the applied cost just under a dollar per track, which for the first time in my Aphex Twin buying history equals pretty much what each track is actually worth, if that much. I loathe most of the tracks. I'd like to slap the loser from Raygun Magazine who gave this excuse for an album a favorable review. Most of the disc is either childish or crass or both and quite frankly, I've had farts that sounded better. This release is not at all exemplary of Aphex Twin's prior and monumental endeavors. This CD is so bad that I wonder if this was not intended to be a joke, or an experiment on the part of the artist to see just what the public will buy just because it has his name on it. In that instance I would have to give a hand-clap, for I was indeed inticed by expectations based solely on his previous reputation and history. In any other case I would have to suggest that RDJ try composing sober and after a good night's sleep - for his presumed lifestyle has finally taken its toll on his creative abilities. On the other and more objective hand, I must admit that nothing is all bad. I did experience a few good moments while listening to this CD. And, I did listen to it 4 times in a row - which proves that while it might really suck, it's not impossible to listen to. On the whole, though, I must stick to my position in stating that this is a ridiculous excuse for a release and the man really needs to re-work the whole thing. The tracks are so short that they are almost pointless, and the general mood is similar to that of a Radio Shack electronics display and not the severe dark and dramatic Aphex Twin most of his enthusiasts have come to expect. The cover art is well-done with the exception of the scrawled type of the titles. I continue to ponder the point of listing titles if you aren't going to make them readable. Why not return to the non-titled mode of SAWII? The back cover is interesting - I can't tell if it's snippets from the front image or a photo-montage homage to the vagina, but I'm not complaining either way. The inside jacket is a step above hack computer imaging and the gatefold is something we can only hope for if he continues to release crap like this. The following is a track-by-track commentary: (Please correct me where I'm wrong on the titles...) * Track One: "4" c.3m.30s A promising start which becomes disappointment inside 15 seconds. Has RDJ switched to using Casio portables? The tempo shifts are annoying because they are awkwardly thrown into the song. The beats are canned and at many points sound as if he had hit the 'fill-in' button on one of the previously mentioned battery-operated items. The high pitched notes peak out the overall annoying aspects of the track, making it altogether noxious. The lone good point about this track is the vocal smaple and the muted sound of a phone dialling. * Track Two: "Cornish Acid" c.2m.10s One of the more solid tracks on the CD. Nicely rounded synth waves in the background with mostly regular beats - Nothing as simple as 1-2-3-4 but consistent - more like 1-2-1-1-1-2-1-2-3-3-4, but the song ends before it really starts with a beep, which is the intro into track 3. * Track Three: "Peek 824545201" c.3m.0s A close tie for one of the best tracks on the CD. Nice beats - but the vibraphonic synths need to go away - Beats dissolve once, and this time effectively - then are quickly reinstated - Definitely not the worst track, but too short to mean much at all. * Track Four: "Fingerbib" (?) c.3m.40s This track is suck mountain with beautiful valleys in between the peaks of horribleness. He definitely needs to remix this one, removing the silly little ping-boing canned junk that sounds like the Reading Rainbow theme, slowing it down a bit and keep the smoothe middle portions. * Track Five: "Corn Mouth" c.2m.25s This track has merit among the rest, but that's about as far as it goes. Typical Aphexian chaos beats, interesting sound samples, pseudo-oriantal high-pitched headaches inbetween irk me - Very nice ending! Sounds like the CD suddenly skips and then dies - Something I have long wanted someone to do. I have no idea why, I guess I figured it would sound neat. * Track Six: "To Cure A Weakling Child" c.3m.55s Begins with nice kid-voice sample manipulations - beat kicks in gradually and then explodes a bit - kid loops continue - The main drawback : Cheesy synths. Well-done corrosion at the end. * Track Seven: "Goon Gumpos" (?) c.1m.57s Sounds like Christmas Muzak at the intro - continues to suck throughout the rest of the track. * Track Eight: "Yellow Calx" (?) c.2m.55s Nice intro, slowly rolling beat moves in - still good - Percussive range, still good - well-blended chaos and samples - Nice chop and fade ending - Hey - A contender for the top of the list! But then, it's less than 3 minutes long. * Track Nine | Girl/Boy Track One: "Girl/Boy Song" c.4m.40s Miraculously breaks the 4 minute barrier! Nice track, A definite choice for number one on the CD - Very nice synth progressions - The beats are calm enough to let an actual melody through - * Track Ten | Girl/Boy Track Two: "---------- Witch" (???) c.3m.30s Sounds are not annoying here for one single reason: The combination of mouth harp, slide flute and organ is strangely appropriate. Neat track. * Track Eleven | Girl/Boy Track Three: "Milkman" c.4m.06s This is my favorite track - Qualitatively it isn't the best on the disc, but I love these lines: "I wish the milkman would deliver more milk when I'm yawning' and "I would like some milk from the milkman's wife's tits." * Track Twelve | Girl/Boy Track Four: "Inkey$" (?) c.1m.18s Dark, eerie, grinding, TOOO DAMMNED SHORRRT! * Track Thirteen | Girl/Boy Track Five: "Girl/Boy ([Pound Symbol] 18 Snore Rush Mix) (?) c.1m.52s Starts - and that's about it. It ends right then as well. * Track Fourteen | Girl/Boy Track Six: "Beetles" c.1m.25s A stupid waste of disc space. Though the guy rambling about frying up vegetables with cheese is kind of funny. * Track Fifteen | Girl/Boy Track Seven: "Girl/Boy (Red Ruth Mix)" c.3m.50s (?) Very nice track - no real complaints - tie for the top I think - Ends with an energy-static type of craziness - wouldn't call it a hidden track or anything... In conclusion I would recommend a total remix project. Take the best elements of the CD, lengthen them and re-release with an apology to the suckers who bought the rough draft. Jasonosaj -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- "I paint what I think, not what I see..." - Pablo Picasso "You're not the boss of me!..." - J. A. Hutto (Pre age 3) http://www2.msstate.edu/~jah10 + jah10@ra.msstate.edu
1997-01-30 14:24AndyI just got the domestic, I agree that I was somewhat disappointed.... and, I'm glad I wait
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I just got the domestic, I agree that I was somewhat disappointed.... and, I'm glad I waited. I think Milkman would be excellent without the vocals, whcihc to me are just stupid and not funny (whereas Children Talking was nice).. I think though, the album on the whole is ok, no tracks really stand ut for me yet.... with this release, RDJ for me is no longer a standout in IDM, maybe some people have viewed his stuff this way for awhile... But he used to inhabit a special categroy above alot of other artists in IDM for me... now I think his stuff really isn't that special, and witht t e proliferation of more interesting, and (good) IDM, I don't think I'll be buying all RDJs releases anymore.... andy
1997-01-29 22:37eRK.At 14:55 1997-01-29 -0600, you wrote: > >REVIEW >------ > >Aphex Twin: >"Richard D. James
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At 14:55 1997-01-29 -0600, you wrote:
quoted 27 lines REVIEW> >REVIEW >------ > >Aphex Twin: >"Richard D. James Album" U.S. Release, January 28, 1997 >Total 15 tracks - Combined UK release RDJ + Girl/Boy UK EP >__________________________________________________________ > > The best thing about this CD is the fact that I did not have to >pay full price for it. The record store has a continual sale on new >releases. I got it for $13.75, which makes the applied cost just under a >dollar per track, which for the first time in my Aphex Twin buying history >equals pretty much what each track is actually worth, if that much. > > I loathe most of the tracks. I'd like to slap the loser from >Raygun Magazine who gave this excuse for an album a favorable review. Most >of the disc is either childish or crass or both and quite frankly, I've >had farts that sounded better. This release is not at all exemplary of >Aphex Twin's prior and monumental endeavors. This CD is so bad that I >wonder if this was not intended to be a joke, or an experiment on the part >of the artist to see just what the public will buy just because it has his >name on it. In that instance I would have to give a hand-clap, for I was >indeed inticed by expectations based solely on his previous reputation and >history. In any other case I would have to suggest that RDJ try composing >sober and after a good night's sleep - for his presumed lifestyle has >finally taken its toll on his creative abilities.
Nah, I don´t believe that an artist would go through all the time and effort just to make an album that states: all you out there who likes me are a bunch of assholes! Personally I like this record quite a lot ´cause it shows us more about what RDJ is capable of making. You just can´t sit around expecting everything he releases to be a new SAW1 or whatever! Make yer own music if listening to others is so painfull!!
quoted 4 lines On the other and more objective hand, I must admit that nothing is> On the other and more objective hand, I must admit that nothing is >all bad. I did experience a few good moments while listening to this CD. >And, I did listen to it 4 times in a row - which proves that while it >might really suck, it's not impossible to listen to.
Please make up your mind!
quoted 13 lines On the whole, though, I must stick to my position in stating that> On the whole, though, I must stick to my position in stating that >this is a ridiculous excuse for a release and the man really needs to >re-work the whole thing. The tracks are so short that they are almost >pointless, and the general mood is similar to that of a Radio Shack >electronics display and not the severe dark and dramatic Aphex Twin most >of his enthusiasts have come to expect. The cover art is well-done with >the exception of the scrawled type of the titles. I continue to ponder the >point of listing titles if you aren't going to make them readable. Why not >return to the non-titled mode of SAWII? The back cover is interesting - >I can't tell if it's snippets from the front image or a photo-montage >homage to the vagina, but I'm not complaining either way. The inside >jacket is a step above hack computer imaging and the gatefold is something >we can only hope for if he continues to release crap like this.
´ave You had a bad hairday or something?? I think it´s quite brilliant the way he has been able to squeeze in a lot of different ,both serious and laughable parts. Makes it all appear as a sort of rollercoast experience. As for the "..dark and dramatic" Aphex Twin; have you given his HAB albums a good rubbing?? I´ve always kept a straight face when listening to Children Talking! ;) [...]
quoted 7 lines * Track Eleven | Girl/Boy Track Three: "Milkman" c.4m.06s>* Track Eleven | Girl/Boy Track Three: "Milkman" c.4m.06s > >This is my favorite track - Qualitatively it isn't the best on the disc, >but I love these lines: >"I wish the milkman would deliver more milk when I'm yawning' >and >"I would like some milk from the milkman's wife's tits."
And I guess that´s to be regarded as "dark and dramatic" ??? :)
quoted 3 lines In conclusion I would recommend a total remix project. Take the> In conclusion I would recommend a total remix project. Take the >best elements of the CD, lengthen them and re-release with an apology to >the suckers who bought the rough draft.
So we´re suckers, eh? I hope you´re not feeling lonely at The top! My advise: get rid of the bloody thing if it torments you that much! eRK. NP: Spooky -found sound!
1997-01-30 20:36HillieOn 30-Jan-97, eRK. wrote: >At 14:55 1997-01-29 -0600, you wrote: >> >>REVIEW >>------ >> >
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quoted 28 lines At 14:55 1997-01-29 -0600, you wrote:>At 14:55 1997-01-29 -0600, you wrote: >> >>REVIEW >>------ >> >>Aphex Twin: >>"Richard D. James Album" U.S. Release, January 28, 1997 >>Total 15 tracks - Combined UK release RDJ + Girl/Boy UK EP >>__________________________________________________________ >> >>The best thing about this CD is the fact that I did not have to >>pay full price for it. The record store has a continual sale on new >>releases. I got it for $13.75, which makes the applied cost just under a >>dollar per track, which for the first time in my Aphex Twin buying history >>equals pretty much what each track is actually worth, if that much. >> >>I loathe most of the tracks. I'd like to slap the loser from >>Raygun Magazine who gave this excuse for an album a favorable review. Most >>of the disc is either childish or crass or both and quite frankly, I've >>had farts that sounded better. This release is not at all exemplary of >>Aphex Twin's prior and monumental endeavors. This CD is so bad that I >>wonder if this was not intended to be a joke, or an experiment on the part >>of the artist to see just what the public will buy just because it has his >>name on it. In that instance I would have to give a hand-clap, for I was >>indeed inticed by expectations based solely on his previous reputation and >>history. In any other case I would have to suggest that RDJ try composing >>sober and after a good night's sleep - for his presumed lifestyle has >>finally taken its toll on his creative abilities.
quoted 4 lines On the other and more objective hand, I must admit that nothing is>>On the other and more objective hand, I must admit that nothing is >>all bad. I did experience a few good moments while listening to this CD. >>And, I did listen to it 4 times in a row - which proves that while it >>might really suck, it's not impossible to listen to.
quoted 1 line Please make up your mind!>Please make up your mind!
quoted 6 lines On the whole, though, I must stick to my position in stating that>>On the whole, though, I must stick to my position in stating that >>this is a ridiculous excuse for a release and the man really needs to >>re-work the whole thing. The tracks are so short that they are almost >>pointless, and the general mood is similar to that of a Radio Shack >>electronics display and not the severe dark and dramatic Aphex Twin most >>of his enthusiasts have come to expect. The cover art is well-done with
One of the things that makes RDJ a great artist is the fact that he's unpredictable.. You cannot predict what his next album is going to sound like.
quoted 2 lines the exception of the scrawled type of the titles. I continue to ponder the>>the exception of the scrawled type of the titles. I continue to ponder the >>point of listing titles if you aren't going to make them readable. Why not
You need glasses, coz I can read them plain as a whistle.
quoted 4 lines return to the non-titled mode of SAWII? The back cover is interesting ->>return to the non-titled mode of SAWII? The back cover is interesting - >>I can't tell if it's snippets from the front image or a photo-montage >>homage to the vagina, but I'm not complaining either way. The inside >>jacket is a step above hack computer imaging and the gatefold is something
Personally I thought the border on the back of the album looked a bit more like wood, not anything like a vagina. I think you have other thoughts on your mind at the time :)
quoted 3 lines As for the "..dark and dramatic" Aphex Twin; have you given his>As for the "..dark and dramatic" Aphex Twin; have you given his >HAB albums a good rubbing?? I´ve always kept a straight face when listening >to Children Talking! ;)
I don't think this is really a point here, I think he expects every AFX album to sound the same. :I
quoted 3 lines "I wish the milkman would deliver more milk when I'm yawning'>>"I wish the milkman would deliver more milk when I'm yawning' >>and >>"I would like some milk from the milkman's wife's tits."
heh you got the milkman's wife's tits right at least :)
quoted 3 lines In conclusion I would recommend a total remix project. Take the>>In conclusion I would recommend a total remix project. Take the >>best elements of the CD, lengthen them and re-release with an apology to >>the suckers who bought the rough draft.
Yeah, Richard's gonna remix it just because you think it sucks. -- Hillie aka Aurafix / PHD ja DAMONES hillien kotisivu - http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html phase distortion - http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~airou/phd/ easy internet services - http://huizen.dds.nl/~eis Do re mi fa so la ti.. Oh let's see if I can make it easier...
1997-01-29 23:03johnny> >This CD is so bad that I wonder if this was not intended to be a joke, or an experiment
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quoted 3 lines This CD is so bad that I wonder if this was not intended to be a joke, or an experiment on> >This CD is so bad that I wonder if this was not intended to be a joke, or an experiment on the part > >of the artist to see just what the public will buy just because it has his > >name on it.
are you just now figuring this out?
1997-01-30 08:57flying turnip boy>* Track Seven: "Goon Gumpos" (?) c.1m.57s > >Sounds like Christmas Muzak at the intro - c
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quoted 5 lines * Track Seven: "Goon Gumpos" (?) c.1m.57s>* Track Seven: "Goon Gumpos" (?) c.1m.57s > >Sounds like Christmas Muzak at the intro - continues to suck throughout >the rest of the track. >
whatever! this is one of the best tracks on the disc. what did you do? listen to your whole nin collection and then decide that this stuff was just too upbeat? what's wrong with a little feel-good music? as for the rest of the review, i really think it's kind of funny the way that you offer suggestions to "cut this" and "remix that." this wasn't put together for you, nor will it be taken apart for you. sorry it doesn't meet your rigid standards. maybe you could review one of his other releases that you think he did a good job on, just so we'd have some kind of idea what it is you like. then maybe we could send it to rephlex or warp, and they could tell richard what to do next, cover art included. over and out. alan! still playing: saw8592 __ :::::/\ \:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::/ \ \::::::you make the mistake::::::::::: :::/ /\ \ \:::::you judge a man by his race:::: ::/ / /\ \ \::::you go through life:::::::::::: :/ / /__\_\ \:::with egg on your face:::::::::: / / /________\::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: \/___________/::::::::::-beastie boys::::::::::
1997-01-30 20:33Brother AlphabetOn Thu, 30 Jan 1997, flying turnip boy wrote: > whatever! this is one of the best tracks o
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quoted 1 line whatever! this is one of the best tracks on the disc.> whatever! this is one of the best tracks on the disc.
Er. OK. Do you also have all the Zamfir and Yanni CDs?
quoted 2 lines what did you do? listen to your whole nin collection and then decide> what did you do? listen to your whole nin collection and then decide > that this stuff was just too upbeat?
Nothing wrong with upbeatness as long as it's good. I don't have any nin, either. Reznor's a phony.
quoted 2 lines what's wrong with a little> what's wrong with a little > feel-good music?
Nothing. As long as it doesn't suck.
quoted 4 lines as for the rest of the review, i really think it's kind of funny the> as for the rest of the review, i really think it's kind of funny the > way that you offer suggestions to "cut this" and "remix that." this > wasn't put together > for you...
Oh, but yes it was. It was there in the store for me to buy. If he didn't intend for it to be mass consumed he would have kept it to himself, and I certainly wish he would have. Plus, what is a review supposed to be? A huge glory halleluia, it's great just because he went to the effort of doing his job? I am under no obligation to either purchase or enjoy his music - So when I purchase and detest it, of course I am going to make negative comments - You will also note that I did not make any comments to the effect that you must feel obligated to share my views.
quoted 2 lines nor will it be taken apart for you. sorry it doesn't meet your rigid> nor will it be taken apart for you. sorry it doesn't meet your rigid > standards.
Likewise, i am sorry that you obviously have none.
quoted 3 lines maybe you could review one of his other releases that you think he> maybe you could review one of his other releases that you think he > did a good job on, just so we'd have some kind of idea what it is you > like.
Seeing what it is I don't like is the same. But I think there might be a couple of good reviews archived somewhere.
quoted 3 lines then> then > maybe we could send it to rephlex or warp, and they could tell richard > what to do next, cover art included.
That isn't the point. No one here is in favor of record company control over artist content. I have enjoyed every other CD RDJ has released under any of his various aliases - This is the lone lemon - I think I did give props for his previous accomplishments, right? Jasonosaj -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- "I paint what I think, not what I see..." - Pablo Picasso "You're not the boss of me!..." - J. A. Hutto (Pre age 3) http://www2.msstate.edu/~jah10 + jah10@ra.msstate.edu
1997-01-30 09:30Mikko KarvonenOn 29-Jan-97, Brother Alphabet wrote: >The following is a track-by-track commentary: >(Ple
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On 29-Jan-97, Brother Alphabet wrote:
quoted 2 lines The following is a track-by-track commentary:>The following is a track-by-track commentary: >(Please correct me where I'm wrong on the titles...)
quoted 1 line * Track Seven: "Goon Gumpos" (?) c.1m.57s>* Track Seven: "Goon Gumpos" (?) c.1m.57s
goon gumpas
quoted 1 line * Track Nine | Girl/Boy Track One: "Girl/Boy Song" c.4m.40s>* Track Nine | Girl/Boy Track One: "Girl/Boy Song" c.4m.40s
actually it's RDJ Album track nine, not from Girl/Boy EP.
quoted 1 line * Track Ten | Girl/Boy Track Two: "---------- Witch" (???) c.3m.30s>* Track Ten | Girl/Boy Track Two: "---------- Witch" (???) c.3m.30s
logon rock witch Same thing, still not from Girl/Boy EP..
quoted 1 line * Track Eleven | Girl/Boy Track Three: "Milkman" c.4m.06s>* Track Eleven | Girl/Boy Track Three: "Milkman" c.4m.06s
Actually Girl/Boy EP track two, since the first is the same as track 9 on RDJ Album. :)
quoted 3 lines This is my favorite track - Qualitatively it isn't the best on the disc,>This is my favorite track - Qualitatively it isn't the best on the disc, >but I love these lines: >"I wish the milkman would deliver more milk when I'm yawning'
Gee. I thought it was "I wish the milkman would deliver my milk in the morning".
quoted 2 lines * Track Thirteen | Girl/Boy Track Five:>* Track Thirteen | Girl/Boy Track Five: >"Girl/Boy ([Pound Symbol] 18 Snore Rush Mix) (?) c.1m.52s
£18 Snare Rush Mix -- .Mikko
1997-01-30 15:21Mark Conklin---------- > From: Your Momma <kung.funk@virgin.net> > To: Brother Alphabet <jah10@isis.ms
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quoted 5 lines From: Your Momma <kung.funk@virgin.net>> From: Your Momma <kung.funk@virgin.net> > To: Brother Alphabet <jah10@isis.msstate.edu> > Cc: Incoherent Delerium Mittens <idm@hyperreal.com> > Subject: Re: (idm) Richard D. James Album - IT SUCKS! > Date: Saturday, January 04, 1997 8:24 AM
quoted 3 lines I loathe most of the tracks.> > I loathe most of the tracks. > > Oooh i remember the same being said about SAW I... The new albums
incredible
quoted 1 line old man... I find it quite funny that some people on this list dont> old man... I find it quite funny that some people on this list dont
understand
quoted 1 line tracks that arent at least 8 minutes long, would have voted for Orbital> tracks that arent at least 8 minutes long, would have voted for Orbital
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quoted 1 line Squarepusher..? Its way past your bedtime :p> Squarepusher..? Its way past your bedtime :p
I guess the hoards of us who think it sucks just don't get it. Then again maybe we're just getting to old for noise. Signed, clueless boy
1997-01-30 15:36A New Januarythere've been quite a few negative views on "rdj:album." i bought it a number of months ag
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there've been quite a few negative views on "rdj:album." i bought it a number of months ago as an import...along with the girl/boy ep and found both to be quite entertaining. those of you who think idm tunes must be 15 minutes worth of mindless loops really need to seek out the true meaning behind "idm". of course, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. i think aphex twin is the best thing since sliced bread...this coming from someone who started out with SAW1 years ago. let the flames...errr...discussion begin! :) peace... prymal ======== Prymal primal@interaccess.com http://www.interaccess.com/primal/ ======== A NEW JANUARY - CD debut, "Patchwork Shadows" electronic dance with a driving edge http://www.interaccess.com/primal/january/ ======== add some spice to your christ...necco wafers!
1997-01-30 15:34Matt JarskyNormally, I would be dissing RDJ right off the bat. Phrases like "Arrogant Bullshitter" an
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Normally, I would be dissing RDJ right off the bat. Phrases like "Arrogant Bullshitter" and "Wanker" (anglophile alert) have often come to mind upon hearing most of his output. (The stuff I've heard, anyway.) An awful lot of I Care Because You Do, really irritated me, and Ventolin...well, not my cup of tea, to put it mildly. But Alberto Balsam almost made me cry the first time I heard it. (Did I mention I get very visceral responses to music? Am I unusual in getting goosbumps durning a really wicked drum roll or other musical climax?) Anyhow, Alberto B. made me think, "If he can do this, then I must assume that his other tracks have integrity too. Though some of them are certainly intended to be humourous, none of them are intended as insults to the listener." This realization re-opened my mind to Aphex. RDJ is certainly a challenge to my newly opened mind. Why make so many good tracks so short? I can only say that I do enjoy listening to the album as a whole, usually a couple of times in a row. It has a nice flow and if you forget that the individual tracks are so short, the 32 min. listen that is RDJ is extremely pleasant. my $.02, luv, magic hands ______________________________ Reply Separator _____________________________ ____ Subject: Re: (idm) Richard D. James Album - IT SUCKS! Author: kidgrady@ix.netcom.com at NRG Date: 30/01/97 08:21 ---------- > From: Your Momma <kung.funk@virgin.net> > To: Brother Alphabet <jah10@isis.msstate.edu> > Cc: Incoherent Delerium Mittens <idm@hyperreal.com> > Subject: Re: (idm) Richard D. James Album - IT SUCKS! > Date: Saturday, January 04, 1997 8:24 AM > > I loathe most of the tracks. > > Oooh i remember the same being said about SAW I... The new albums incredible > old man... I find it quite funny that some people on this list dont understand > tracks that arent at least 8 minutes long, would have voted for Orbital over > Squarepusher..? Its way past your bedtime :p I guess the hoards of us who think it sucks just don't get it. Then again maybe we're just getting to old for noise. Signed, clueless boy
1997-01-30 17:44Mikko KarvonenOn 30-Jan-97, Aaron Michelson wrote: >On 30 Jan 1997 11:30 +0200 (-0300), Mikko Karvonen w
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On 30-Jan-97, Aaron Michelson wrote:
quoted 1 line On 30 Jan 1997 11:30 +0200 (-0300), Mikko Karvonen wrote to me:>On 30 Jan 1997 11:30 +0200 (-0300), Mikko Karvonen wrote to me:
quoted 3 lines This is my favorite track - Qualitatively it isn't the best on the disc,>>> This is my favorite track - Qualitatively it isn't the best on the disc, >>> but I love these lines: >>> "I wish the milkman would deliver more milk when I'm yawning'
quoted 2 lines Gee. I thought it was "I wish the milkman would deliver my milk in the>> Gee. I thought it was "I wish the milkman would deliver my milk in the >> morning".
quoted 1 line Actually, it's both. Keep listening...>Actually, it's both. Keep listening...
Hey, I just noticed the same after mailing that :) -- .Mikko
1997-01-30 20:23HillieOn 30-Jan-97, Mikko Karvonen wrote: >logon rock witch actually it's loon rock witch :) >Ge
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quoted 1 line logon rock witch>logon rock witch
actually it's loon rock witch :)
quoted 2 lines Gee. I thought it was "I wish the milkman would deliver my milk in the>Gee. I thought it was "I wish the milkman would deliver my milk in the >morning".
yep.. (to brother alphabet) I wish the milkman would deliver my milk, in the morning. I wish the milkman would deliver my milk, when I'm yearning. and I believe we all know the next part ;) to brother alphabet: hm.. For some reason I never got the thread, or somehow passed it by, about this album, but I've seen some quotes, and seen you say it sucks... This album, IMO anyway is one of the best AFX has produced yet, RDJ LP that is, not Girl/Boy. -- Hillie aka Aurafix / PHD ja DAMONES hillien kotisivu - http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html phase distortion - http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~airou/phd/ easy internet services - http://huizen.dds.nl/~eis Do re mi fa so la ti.. Oh let's see if I can make it easier...
1997-01-30 21:21Mikko KarvonenOn 30-Jan-97, Hillie wrote: >On 30-Jan-97, Mikko Karvonen wrote: >>logon rock witch >actua
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On 30-Jan-97, Hillie wrote:
quoted 2 lines On 30-Jan-97, Mikko Karvonen wrote:>On 30-Jan-97, Mikko Karvonen wrote: >>logon rock witch
quoted 1 line actually it's loon rock witch :)>actually it's loon rock witch :)
IMHO there's a tiny little "g" between the two o's. (GOD this is stupid)
quoted 2 lines I wish the milkman would deliver my milk, in the morning.>I wish the milkman would deliver my milk, in the morning. >I wish the milkman would deliver my milk, when I'm yearning.
yawning, not yearning. :) -- .Mikko
1997-01-31 06:01Gonzi (Fresh)> Due to geographical limitations, I have no idea what Squarepusher is. > Sad, aint it? I'
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quoted 2 lines Due to geographical limitations, I have no idea what Squarepusher is.> Due to geographical limitations, I have no idea what Squarepusher is. > Sad, aint it?
I'm sick of this excuse. You have access to e-mail and the net you can buy whatever the fuck you want, you're just lazy. Maybe you should find out who Squarepusher is before you post another knucklehead review like that to the jaded IDM massive. _____ / ,-,_) /,_) (/ RESH Live & Direct from the G-Spot, Orange County, California, USA http://www1.linkonline.net/fresh/fresh.htm
1997-01-31 09:11Mikko KarvonenOn 31-Jan-97, Hillie wrote: >On 31-Jan-97, Mikko Karvonen wrote: >>IMHO there's a tiny lit
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On 31-Jan-97, Hillie wrote:
quoted 2 lines On 31-Jan-97, Mikko Karvonen wrote:>On 31-Jan-97, Mikko Karvonen wrote: >>IMHO there's a tiny little "g" between the two o's. (GOD this is stupid)
quoted 1 line heh, sure looks like it, but it's one of those things I know for sure ;) also>heh, sure looks like it, but it's one of those things I know for sure ;) also
Yeah, like you know it's "throwing up vegetables with cheese" and not "frying up.." :)
quoted 1 line in every review of the record I've seen they've written it as loon rock>in every review of the record I've seen they've written it as loon rock
witch. SO? If even the guys who released RDJ Album in the US didn't get "Corn Mouth" right and made it into a "Carn Marth", how can you trust some reviews then? Reviewers are just humans (and in some cases, only barely humans). And besides, it's "Logon" in Alan Parry's discography. He must've got the track listing beforehand from somone who knows better, since the track listing has been there ages before RDJ Album was even released...
quoted 1 line Hillie aka Aurafix / PHD ja DAMONES>Hillie aka Aurafix / PHD ja DAMONES
Hey you must be one of those guys doing stupid computer demos? :)
quoted 1 line Do re mi fa so la ti.. Oh let's see if I can make it easier...> Do re mi fa so la ti.. Oh let's see if I can make it easier...
Or is it "let's see if WE can make it easier"?-P -- .Mikko
1997-02-01 19:05Humanerr0r@aol.comIn a message dated 31/01/97 06:17:44, you write: > RDJ is certainly a challenge to my newl
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In a message dated 31/01/97 06:17:44, you write:
quoted 5 lines RDJ is certainly a challenge to my newly opened mind. Why make so many> RDJ is certainly a challenge to my newly opened mind. Why make so many > good tracks so short? I can only say that I do enjoy listening to the > album as a whole, usually a couple of times in a row. It has a nice > flow and if you forget that the individual tracks are so short, the 32 > min. listen that is RDJ is extremely pleasant.
Making short tracks is the best thing RDJ could have done. In a way he's put forward *another* challenge for everybody else - to make tracks that are non-repetitive. The ideas in the tracks are put across with complete clarity, with a real structure to them. Who would really want to hear a 7 minute version of INKEY$ or #18 Snare Rush? Who could cope with it? :-) On Now? Water Messages On Desert Sand - Musci/Venosta