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Alan R. Lucas
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Mon, 1 Mar 2004 10:22:24 -0500
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Re: [idm] Re: genres
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Still didn't come from a press release, really. Warp never called their stuff Intelligent Dance Music. In fact, I'm pretty sure they still don't. you know, because it's a mailing list, not a genre. ;) And as far as your comments re: The Orb, you have to remember that back then all of this stuff was sort of all in the same arena. It was all "ambient techno" or "ambient house" or "ambient something". U.F.Orb definitely fits into what was being discussed at the time. Back in the day, it used to be okay to say that you actually *liked* the Chemical Brothers on this list. But at that time they were still the Dust Brothers. Back then, Moby remixed Orbital, and in 1996, Orbital's In Sides was the IDM album of year (based on a poll taken on this list). The IDM archives used to be housed at skylab.org, but in the last few weeks they've been down. I'm not sure if that's permanent. I hope not. If/when it comes back, some of the newer people ought to check out the first few months worth of posts to get some perspective on what was happening when this list came into being. It's amusing and enlightening at the same time. Anyone have any info on skylab.org? I've sent email to their webmaster, but haven't heard back... Oh, and I'm pretty sure that the mighty Chaircrusher knows that Surfing is a Polygon Window joint. It's all the same. Later, Alan Quoting chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>:
quoted 54 lines Kent williams <kent@avalon.net> wrote:> Kent williams <kent@avalon.net> wrote: > > > > >The name came from the Warp "Artificial Intelligence" > compilation. > > ah. so in a way it was someone's press release, but the list name > popularized it. > > > >AFX "Surfing on Sine Waves" > >Orb "UF Orb" > >Orbital "Brown Album" > >Muziq "Bluff Limbo" > >Black Dog "Bytes" > >Drexciya EPs 1-4 > >AI I > >AI II > > > >None of this stuff would really fit with most of what is being > discussed > >now, > > i can see the first one (btw, that's polygon window technically, not > AFX), but maybe not the orb, which people were already calling > "ambient house". but that's splitting hairs. the early orb were > brilliant. > > > >but that's fine too, because IDM is a mailing list, not a genre ;-) > > well i guess genre would never be a term i would have called it. it > seems an awkward catch-all phrase for certain types of electronic > music. but as a genre it's even more misnamed and indistinct > than most others. > > it's funny to discover this, thanks! even funnier - i belong to the DIR > > (digital indie rock) maliling list on yahoo - it'd be funny if that term > > or its acronym became officially used as well. then again, there > aren't many artists working in that field (the notwist and the postal > service being obvious standouts, recent additions being dwayne > sodahberk and pluramon). > > > d. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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